American Politics Thread V: We're Just Biden Our Time ...

[Picairn]

"The American Civil War wasn't a civil war" has to be one of the worst takes in this thread so far tbh.

A Twitter-level take.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

America conducted an election amidst a Civil War, and even recovered into a Great Power. It is remarkably resilient. If it ever lost its Empire status, I believe it will fade like Britain instead of breaking up.

Civil War my ass, dont overeact. Next you'll say that Ted Kaczynski was a Nuclear Terrorist because he sent out bombs

Next you'll be saying world War II was just a little brawl.

[Hongrad]

"The American Civil War wasn't a civil war" has to be one of the worst takes in this thread so far tbh.

A Twitter-level take.

I miss those days when social media was just social media...

[Zurkerx]

Hundreds of Companies and Top Executives, including the likes of Warren Buffet, Amazon, Target, Starbucks, Google, GM, Netflix, etc., Unite to Oppose Voting Limits.

Republicans like McConnell, Trump, and others have called on businesses to stay out of politics, which is delicious given they rely/relied on their money.

Here's the Statement:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/ ... _manual_12

[Exalted Inquellian State]

What was the name of the bill that wanted to create nonpartisan election boards and ranked choice voting.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Hundreds of Companies and Top Executives, including the likes of Warren Buffet, Amazon, Target, Starbucks, Google, GM, Netflix, etc., Unite to Oppose Voting Limits.

Republicans like McConnell, Trump, and others have called on businesses to stay out of politics, which is delicious given they rely/relied on their money.

Here's the Statement:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/ ... _manual_12

Except when it's time to vote on unionization. Then they support tampering with voting.

[San Lumen]

What was the name of the bill that wanted to create nonpartisan election boards and ranked choice voting.

HR1 or For the People Act

[Exalted Inquellian State]

What was the name of the bill that wanted to create nonpartisan election boards and ranked choice voting.

HR1 or For the People Act

Okay, I support a mix of that and the Georgia voting law. I think there should be ID's for voting, and stricter verification procedures for mail-ins, but I support ranked choice voting because it allows third parties(like one of the two monarchist ones) to rise, and nonpartisan electoral boards because it stops gerrymandering(because believe me, I saw some democrat districts that look pretty gerrymandered).

[San Lumen]

HR1 or For the People Act

Okay, I support a mix of that and the Georgia voting law. I think there should be ID's for voting, and stricter verification procedures for mail-ins, but I support ranked choice voting because it allows third parties(like one of the two monarchist ones) to rise, and nonpartisan electoral boards because it stops gerrymandering(because believe me, I saw some democrat districts that look pretty gerrymandered).

If your going to have voter ID it should be provided free for all registered voters. It isn't needed though as in person voter fraud is a myth and does not happen outside of a few cases.

What stricter verifications do you want for mail in voting?

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Okay, I support a mix of that and the Georgia voting law. I think there should be ID's for voting, and stricter verification procedures for mail-ins, but I support ranked choice voting because it allows third parties(like one of the two monarchist ones) to rise, and nonpartisan electoral boards because it stops gerrymandering(because believe me, I saw some democrat districts that look pretty gerrymandered).

If your going to have voter ID it should be provided free for all registered voters. It isn't needed though as in person voter fraud is a myth and does not happen outside of a few cases.

What stricter verifications do you want for mail in voting?

I mean, ID's cost a few dollars I reckon, so I imagine it should be easy to provide.

For mail-in's, a picture and address would be necessary.

[San Lumen]

If your going to have voter ID it should be provided free for all registered voters. It isn't needed though as in person voter fraud is a myth and does not happen outside of a few cases.

What stricter verifications do you want for mail in voting?

I mean, ID's cost a few dollars I reckon, so I imagine it should be easy to provide.

For mail-in's, a picture and address would be necessary.

Would the state be paying for it?

You already need to provide an address to get a mail in ballot. why is a picture needed?

[Kilobugya]

I think there should be ID's for voting, and stricter verification procedures for mail-ins

You're trying to fix a non-existent problem here. There is no single thread of evidence that any significant amount of voter fraud happens due to lack of them, so why make laws to solve problems that don't exist ?

But if you really want ID for voting, then start by issuing for free, to every citizen, a photo ID card (like we do here in France). And then make it mandatory to bring that ID card to vote - but don't start by making the ID mandatory when getting one is either complicated or costly, or the main effect will be barring legitimate voters from exercising their constitutional rights.

Except when it's time to vote on unionization. Then they support tampering with voting.

Of course, it's corporations. And they'll also support tempering with elections and doing coups in other countries. It's just that they want to appear ethical, not that they really care about democracy. I won't spit on it when it's of help in a specific struggle, but we've to be aware they are not "on our side".

[San Lumen]

I think there should be ID's for voting, and stricter verification procedures for mail-ins

You're trying to fix a non-existent problem here. There is no single thread of evidence that any significant amount of voter fraud happens due to lack of them, so why make laws to solve problems that don't exist ?

But if you really want ID for voting, then start by issuing for free, to every citizen, a photo ID card (like we do here in France). And then make it mandatory to vote - but don't start by making the ID mandatory when getting one is either complicated or costly, or the main effect will be barring legitimate voters from exercising their constitutional rights.

Except when it's time to vote on unionization. Then they support tampering with voting.

Of course, it's corporations. And they'll also support tempering with elections and doing coups in other countries. It's just that they want to appear ethical, not that they really care about democracy. I won't spit on it when it's of help in a specific struggle, but we've to be aware they are not "on our side".

Mandatory voting is a terrible idea. if you don't want to be informed and don't want to vote that should be your right.

We should have automatic registration though.

[Ifreann]

If your going to have voter ID it should be provided free for all registered voters. It isn't needed though as in person voter fraud is a myth and does not happen outside of a few cases.

What stricter verifications do you want for mail in voting?

I mean, ID's cost a few dollars I reckon, so I imagine it should be easy to provide.

For mail-in's, a picture and address would be necessary.

It would be easy to make IDs available to all voters without that constituting a serious impediment to voting, but see, the Republicans want voter ID laws to be a serious impediment to voting. The goal for them is to stop people from voting.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I mean, ID's cost a few dollars I reckon, so I imagine it should be easy to provide.

For mail-in's, a picture and address would be necessary.

Would the state be paying for it?

You already need to provide an address to get a mail in ballot. why is a picture needed?

Yes, the state would be paying for it. It wouldn't cost to much anyway.

A picture is needed to prove the person who sent the card isn't someone else impersonating another person to vote twice.

[Kilobugya]

Mandatory voting is a terrible idea. if you don't want to be informed and don't want to vote that should be your right.

Sorry my sentence wasn't clear, I meant mandatory to bring the ID card to vote (once you've made sure that everyone does have one) I'll edit the post.

We should have automatic registration though.

Indeed.

[San Lumen]

Mandatory voting is a terrible idea. if you don't want to be informed and don't want to vote that should be your right.

Sorry my sentence wasn't clear, I meant mandatory to bring the ID card to vote (once you've made sure that everyone does have one) I'll edit the post.

We should have automatic registration though.

Indeed.

If your going to make ID;s required the state should provide it for free once you register to vote.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I mean, ID's cost a few dollars I reckon, so I imagine it should be easy to provide.

For mail-in's, a picture and address would be necessary.

It would be easy to make IDs available to all voters without that constituting a serious impediment to voting, but see, the Republicans want voter ID laws to be a serious impediment to voting. The goal for them is to stop people from voting.

First, you're generalizing. Second of all, I'm a monarchist.

[San Lumen]

It would be easy to make IDs available to all voters without that constituting a serious impediment to voting, but see, the Republicans want voter ID laws to be a serious impediment to voting. The goal for them is to stop people from voting.

First, you're generalizing. Second of all, I'm a monarchist.

its not a generalization. Stopping people from voting is why these laws are being passed. Republicans don't believe in democracy or free and fair elections.

[Kilobugya]

If your going to make ID;s required the state should provide it for free once you register to vote.

Exactly, that's what I tried to say. Sorry for not being clear enough.

[The Alma Mater]

It would be easy to make IDs available to all voters without that constituting a serious impediment to voting, but see, the Republicans want voter ID laws to be a serious impediment to voting. The goal for them is to stop people from voting.

First, you're generalizing. Second of all, I'm a monarchist.

They are talking about US republicans. The political party.
Not people who want to abolish the monarchy. Which the USA does not have (though Trump tried).

[Ifreann]

It would be easy to make IDs available to all voters without that constituting a serious impediment to voting, but see, the Republicans want voter ID laws to be a serious impediment to voting. The goal for them is to stop people from voting.

First, you're generalizing.

If I am it's an accurate generalisation.

Second of all, I'm a monarchist.

I don't see what that has to do with anything.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

First, you're generalizing.

If I am it's an accurate generalisation.

Second of all, I'm a monarchist.

I don't see what that has to do with anything.

It means I don't care about what you claim they want to do.

[Ifreann]

If I am it's an accurate generalisation.

I don't see what that has to do with anything.

It means I don't care about what you claim they want to do.

The fuck are you doing in the American politics thread if you don't care about the politics of America's major political parties?

[Picairn]

Voting IDs should be free, available at the point of service, easily accessible (more places to give them out) and quick.