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Should your country require everyone who can receive a COVID-19 vaccine to actually receive it?

YES
159
53%
YES, BUT there should also be exceptions for philosophical and religious reasons
20
7%
NO, BUT EMPLOYERS SHOULD DO SO THEMSELVES
15
5%
NO, BUT people should be incentivised towards taking, and/or away from not taking, a COVID-19 vaccine (perhaps through lotteries, vaccine passports, etc.)
41
14%
NO
67
22%
 
Total votes : 302

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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:47 pm

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North Washington Republic wrote:
I’m honestly not really pissed that I got my vaccine early and didn’t get anything. Having protection from getting seriously sick from a virus that can kill was enough for me.

Like I said before, Americans are typically individualistic and responds to incentives that personally benefit them.


Immunity from a virus doesn't personally benefit them?


You've met some Americans.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:49 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
-SARS- wrote:
Immunity from a virus doesn't personally benefit them?


You've met some Americans.


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Postby -SARS- » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:08 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
You've met some Americans.


As an American; I apologize for them.


As a virus, I am not picky about the nationality of my hosts, or their attitudes. It is a little annoying when their pre-existing health problems cause their body to go haywire during my visit, but such is life.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:24 pm

What I would like to know is how can anyone call themselves “pro-life” and refuse to get vaccinated…and sometimes they attack these live saving vaccines.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:46 pm

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The first dose is mild at best. All it did was make me tired which passed in about 12 hours. The second dose was one of the most miserable experiences of my adult life.

I personally found the second dose way easier than the first.

That's what I found. First time round, my joints flared up and I felt absolutely dreadful for a few days.

The second time, I full expected the same again, but I just had a low-grade fever and felt a bit under-the-weather for a day or so.

That was with the AstraZeneca.
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Postby ImperialRussia » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:18 pm

In India turns out lions have a covid variant that is killing them human transmission to animal in which this affect area took place in a Indian zoo.

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Postby Shazbotdom » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:47 pm

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A total of $2.3 Million will be awarded out.


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Postby Page » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:52 pm

-SARS- wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
I’m honestly not really pissed that I got my vaccine early and didn’t get anything. Having protection from getting seriously sick from a virus that can kill was enough for me.

Like I said before, Americans are typically individualistic and responds to incentives that personally benefit them.


Immunity from a virus doesn't personally benefit them?


A lot of people, especially Americans, still believe that for young and healthy people it is just a flu. They are wrong but that's what they believe and you aren't going to get them vaccinated without incentive. My parents are in their early 60's and both say they wouldn't have bothered if not for the fact they want to travel abroad.

I would have got vaccinated no matter what but even in my case it was wanting to go to restaurants that made me call months back and be like "if you have AZ that people don't want I want it now" rather than just wait for Germany to open all the categories.

Incentive matters.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:52 pm

I'm finally fully vaccinated.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:54 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Atheris wrote:I personally found the second dose way easier than the first.

That's what I found. First time round, my joints flared up and I felt absolutely dreadful for a few days.

The second time, I full expected the same again, but I just had a low-grade fever and felt a bit under-the-weather for a day or so.

That was with the AstraZeneca.

I had the Moderna and all I had was some soreness around the injection site.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:20 am

Stumbled across the NHS channel on youtube last night and every single video to do with COVID is mass downvoted. Then took a brief look at a WHO post on facebook and saw people comparing the Vaccines to Doctor Mengele and that they were tantamount to genocide.

We are the most advanced we have ever been as a species, and should be the most intelligent we have ever been as a species. And yet some people honestly make me worry about the future with how fucking stupid they are.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:21 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Stumbled across the NHS channel on youtube last night and every single video to do with COVID is mass downvoted. Then took a brief look at a WHO post on facebook and saw people comparing the Vaccines to Doctor Mengele and that they were tantamount to genocide.

We are the most advanced we have ever been as a species, and should be the most intelligent we have ever been as a species. And yet some people honestly make me worry about the future with how fucking stupid they are.


Saw a whole bunch of stickers up in Wolverhampton last week going on about how vaccination breaks the "WW2 Nuremberg Code". Whatever that means.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:26 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Stumbled across the NHS channel on youtube last night and every single video to do with COVID is mass downvoted. Then took a brief look at a WHO post on facebook and saw people comparing the Vaccines to Doctor Mengele and that they were tantamount to genocide.

We are the most advanced we have ever been as a species, and should be the most intelligent we have ever been as a species. And yet some people honestly make me worry about the future with how fucking stupid they are.


Saw a whole bunch of stickers up in Wolverhampton last week going on about how vaccination breaks the "WW2 Nuremberg Code". Whatever that means.

Yeah i saw them bitching about how this is "Nuremburg laws 2" as well.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:29 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Saw a whole bunch of stickers up in Wolverhampton last week going on about how vaccination breaks the "WW2 Nuremberg Code". Whatever that means.

Yeah i saw them bitching about how this is "Nuremburg laws 2" as well.

They're aware that when actually learned ppl talk about the Nuremberg Laws... they mean this, right? <.<
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:18 am

US accused of preventing Venezuela from making payments to COVAX-which prevents them from getting vaccines

Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodríguez on Thursday accused the U.S.-backed international financial system of blocking the country's access to Covid-19 vaccines under the COVAX program, even though Venezuela has paid all but $10 million of the $120 million it owes. Appearing in a televised address, Rodríguez said Venezuela was unable to pay the remaining $10 million because it was being blocked from transferring funds to the Switzerland-based GAVI Vaccine Alliance, which directs COVAX.

"The financial system that also hides behind the U.S. lobby has the power to block resources that can be used to immunize the population of Venezuela," she said.

Venezuelan Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza tweeted a letter from COVAX stating that it "received notification from UBS Bank" that four payments, totaling just over $4.6 million, were "blocked and under investigation."

Arreaza said that "Venezuela has paid all of its commitments," adding that "the bank has arbitrarily blocked" the country's final payments and calling the situation "a crime."

The vice president and foreign minister's remarks follow accusations from Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro last week that "organizations of U.S. imperialism" are engaged in an effort to stop vaccine producers from selling doses to the country.

"Venezuela might be the only country in the world that is subject to a persecution against its right to freely purchase vaccines," said Maduro, according to Venezuelanalysis. "Venezuela is besieged so that it cannot buy vaccines."
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:22 am

Kowani wrote:US accused of preventing Venezuela from making payments to COVAX-which prevents them from getting vaccines

Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodríguez on Thursday accused the U.S.-backed international financial system of blocking the country's access to Covid-19 vaccines under the COVAX program, even though Venezuela has paid all but $10 million of the $120 million it owes. Appearing in a televised address, Rodríguez said Venezuela was unable to pay the remaining $10 million because it was being blocked from transferring funds to the Switzerland-based GAVI Vaccine Alliance, which directs COVAX.

"The financial system that also hides behind the U.S. lobby has the power to block resources that can be used to immunize the population of Venezuela," she said.

Venezuelan Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza tweeted a letter from COVAX stating that it "received notification from UBS Bank" that four payments, totaling just over $4.6 million, were "blocked and under investigation."

Arreaza said that "Venezuela has paid all of its commitments," adding that "the bank has arbitrarily blocked" the country's final payments and calling the situation "a crime."

The vice president and foreign minister's remarks follow accusations from Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro last week that "organizations of U.S. imperialism" are engaged in an effort to stop vaccine producers from selling doses to the country.

"Venezuela might be the only country in the world that is subject to a persecution against its right to freely purchase vaccines," said Maduro, according to Venezuelanalysis. "Venezuela is besieged so that it cannot buy vaccines."


That is beyond fucked up.
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Postby Valentine Z » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:16 am

Err... ohh boy. So guess who just got the fever kicking in after 1 day and 15 hours... 38.6 C / 101.48 F too.

I am not here to be anti-vax all of a sudden, don't worry. Ohh... man, and here I thought my body can take it. :P
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Postby Xmara » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:19 am

Valentine Z wrote:Err... ohh boy. So guess who just got the fever kicking in after 15 hours... 38.6 C / 101.48 F too.

I am not here to be anti-vax all of a sudden, don't worry. Ohh... man, and here I thought my body can take it. :P

:hug:

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Postby Galloism » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:19 am

Valentine Z wrote:Err... ohh boy. So guess who just got the fever kicking in after 15 hours... 38.6 C / 101.48 F too.

I am not here to be anti-vax all of a sudden, don't worry. Ohh... man, and here I thought my body can take it. :P

It'll pass. Just get some sleep and drink a bunch of water.
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Postby Valentine Z » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:25 am

Galloism wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:Err... ohh boy. So guess who just got the fever kicking in after 15 hours... 38.6 C / 101.48 F too.

I am not here to be anti-vax all of a sudden, don't worry. Ohh... man, and here I thought my body can take it. :P

It'll pass. Just get some sleep and drink a bunch of water.

Yup, got a huge bottle of water by my side. ^^

Xmara wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:Err... ohh boy. So guess who just got the fever kicking in after 15 hours... 38.6 C / 101.48 F too.

I am not here to be anti-vax all of a sudden, don't worry. Ohh... man, and here I thought my body can take it. :P

:hug:

Take care!

Thanks! Please take care of yourselves as well - vaxxed or not. :hug:

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Also, not 15 hours, sorry. 1 day and 15 hours.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:45 am

Kowani wrote:US accused of preventing Venezuela from making payments to COVAX-which prevents them from getting vaccines

Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodríguez on Thursday accused the U.S.-backed international financial system of blocking the country's access to Covid-19 vaccines under the COVAX program, even though Venezuela has paid all but $10 million of the $120 million it owes. Appearing in a televised address, Rodríguez said Venezuela was unable to pay the remaining $10 million because it was being blocked from transferring funds to the Switzerland-based GAVI Vaccine Alliance, which directs COVAX.

"The financial system that also hides behind the U.S. lobby has the power to block resources that can be used to immunize the population of Venezuela," she said.

Venezuelan Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza tweeted a letter from COVAX stating that it "received notification from UBS Bank" that four payments, totaling just over $4.6 million, were "blocked and under investigation."

Arreaza said that "Venezuela has paid all of its commitments," adding that "the bank has arbitrarily blocked" the country's final payments and calling the situation "a crime."

The vice president and foreign minister's remarks follow accusations from Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro last week that "organizations of U.S. imperialism" are engaged in an effort to stop vaccine producers from selling doses to the country.

"Venezuela might be the only country in the world that is subject to a persecution against its right to freely purchase vaccines," said Maduro, according to Venezuelanalysis. "Venezuela is besieged so that it cannot buy vaccines."

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Postby Kowani » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:15 am

Oxygen crisis comes to Afghanistan

Oxygen is in short supply in Afghanistan as the country is battling a third wave of COVID-19 cases and its hospitals are being overrun.

Health ministry spokesman Ghulam Dastigir Nazari told The Associated Press that the government is working to install more oxygen supply plants in 10 provinces where up to 65 percent of people tested in some areas are positive for COVID-19.

According to the AP, Afghans are banging on the doors of suppliers, begging for their oxygen cylinders to be filled for suffering loved ones; however, the country is running out of cylinders as well, with Iran sending 900 on Saturday and Uzbekistan sending 1,000 last week. Afghans wait outside oxygen plants to get their tanks filled, as doing so costs roughly $5 there versus roughly $50 in the market, AP noted.

The reported case count is more than 100,000, and reported deaths number more than 4,000, but health officials say they're much higher.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:23 am

https://www.dw.com/en/covid-tokyo-scrap ... a-57964417

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Postby Torisakia » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:40 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.dw.com/en/covid-tokyo-scraps-public-viewing-of-olympics/a-57964417

Olympics to be held without any spectators in the stands.

Don't know why they're so hell-bent on holding the Olympics, especially with the situation in Japan not improving that much, from what I've been told.
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