Elon Musk becomes new Technoking

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

I don't think the quotation marks are neccessary.

Overthrow a communist dictatorship and make use of the nations lithium? Sounds like a win-win scenario to me, regardless of NSG approval lol

it's not wrong if you do it a country you don't like

[Stellar Colonies]

Because Kessler syndrome doesn't care about whether the satellite is providing you with an internet connection.

These problems are real regardless what you believe my motivations are for pointing them out.

If this was an actual problem, the company wouldn't have made this internet network in the first place out of fear of creating destructive chain reactions that would damage most satellites. The fact that they went through with it means these (very expensive) satellites aren't going to collide with anything in the first place. No matter how you see it, this doesn't seem to be a real problem. If it was, it would affect the creators of the network more than anyone else.

Try finding some other reason to hate musk.

Wouldn't be the first time a long-term problem was ignored or minimized for short-term gain.

[-Ocelot-]

If this was an actual problem, the company wouldn't have made this internet network in the first place out of fear of creating destructive chain reactions that would damage most satellites. The fact that they went through with it means these (very expensive) satellites aren't going to collide with anything in the first place. No matter how you see it, this doesn't seem to be a real problem. If it was, it would affect the creators of the network more than anyone else.

Try finding some other reason to hate musk.

Wouldn't be the first time a long-term problem was ignored or minimized for short-term gain.

Wouldn't call the creation of an entire internet network from scratch a short-term plan, but ok.

How about we care about the actual space junk that do nothing but float around, instead? Assuming we actually care about this problem?

[Stellar Colonies]

Wouldn't be the first time a long-term problem was ignored or minimized for short-term gain.

Wouldn't call the creation of an entire internet network from scratch a short-term plan, but ok.

How about we care about the actual space junk that do nothing but float around, instead? Assuming we actually care about this problem?

Massively increasing the number of satellites massively increases the existing issue, and a debris cloud of superfast pieces of junk enveloping the planet is a rather serious problem which needs to be dealt with before it compounds later.

[-Ocelot-]

Wouldn't call the creation of an entire internet network from scratch a short-term plan, but ok.

How about we care about the actual space junk that do nothing but float around, instead? Assuming we actually care about this problem?

Massively increasing the number of satellites massively increases the existing issue, and a debris cloud of superfast pieces of junk enveloping the planet is a rather serious problem which needs to be dealt with before it compounds later.

I still can't believe that a company is spending astronomical amounts of money (no pun intended) to build a network that will self-destruct a few years down the road. Makes no sense financially.

Something tells me this network will prove to be more resilient than current wired network technology, especially copper-based networks that physically degrade over time. Maybe more companies will start putting satellites up there once this technology becomes less expensive to maintain, no matter how much NSG warns about the sky falling down on us.

[Kowani]

I don't think the quotation marks are neccessary.

Overthrow a communist dictatorship and make use of the nations lithium? Sounds like a win-win scenario to me, regardless of NSG approval lol

"dictatorship is when person i don't like wins election"

[Ethel mermania]

Every time someone complains about Musk's companies for the sake of it, a satellite gets its wings. It's getting pretty crowded up there!

Crowding orbital space is actually a serious problem, which could just block us from seeing the stars from Earth or could actually make it impossible to leave the planet for generations. But I'm not complaining about his companies at all. I'm complaining about the attitude that people have towards him specifically.

Why shouldn't I respect the Technoking?

Because he's a piece of shit.

If his company...

If Elon Musk never showed up to work again, the companies he's associated with would carry on just fine. If you get satellite internet some day, that will have nothing to do with Elon Musk. He isn't building the satellites himself. He isn't designing them. His name is just on some documents saying that he's in charge.

I dont think that is true. Musk brings a lot to the table.

1. He sets general direction,goals, and culture for both SpaceX and tesla, and holds people accountable when they drift off target.

2. He has a unique ability to keep his companies in the public eye with mostly positive press, which creates value for the shareholders that would not be there without him

3. He has demonstrated he can raise billions in capital for his projects without giving away the company.

Three traits that are highly valued in a CEO. Both companies would be worth a lot less money without him.

[Heloin]

Massively increasing the number of satellites massively increases the existing issue, and a debris cloud of superfast pieces of junk enveloping the planet is a rather serious problem which needs to be dealt with before it compounds later.

I still can't believe that a company is spending astronomical amounts of money (no pun intended) to build a network that will self-destruct a few years down the road. Makes no sense financially.

Something tells me this network will prove to be more resilient than current wired network technology, especially copper-based networks that physically degrade over time. Maybe more companies will start putting satellites up there once this technology becomes less expensive to maintain, no matter how much NSG warns about the sky falling down on us.

Satellites degrade over time. Their parts will degrade same as any other system we have, put repairing a satellite is hardly worth the expense so it's always cheaper to send more up. Many will have orbits that decay enough so they'll burn up in the atmosphere but most will not decay fast enough to keep up with the rates new satellites will need to be launched.

It's honestly shocking that you can't believe companies will do something that is harmful to everyone in the long run for short term profits.

[National Capitalist United States]

Overthrow a communist dictatorship and make use of the nations lithium? Sounds like a win-win scenario to me, regardless of NSG approval lol

it's not wrong if you do it a country you don't like

I don't think we needed to intervene in Bolivia, as it was doing fine except for corruption.

But we should overthrow Venezuela. I think everyone will be thankful that Maduro's corrupt ass is either in jail or in a coffin.

[The Blaatschapen]

it's not wrong if you do it a country you don't like

I don't think we needed to intervene in Bolivia, as it was doing fine except for corruption.

But we should overthrow Venezuela. I think everyone will be thankful that Maduro's corrupt ass is either in jail or in a coffin.

Quite offtopic, but, what is the plan afterwards.

America has done some overthrowing in the past, that's the easy part. The hard part is what comes after.

Overthrowing Saddam Hussein took less than a month. But the aftermath took(is taking) a whole lot longer.

[National Capitalist United States]

I don't think we needed to intervene in Bolivia, as it was doing fine except for corruption.

But we should overthrow Venezuela. I think everyone will be thankful that Maduro's corrupt ass is either in jail or in a coffin.

Quite offtopic, but, what is the plan afterwards.

America has done some overthrowing in the past, that's the easy part. The hard part is what comes after.

Overthrowing Saddam Hussein took less than a month. But the aftermath took(is taking) a whole lot longer.

Idk just place someone who knows how to run the ecomomy so that you don't have a 69420666% annual inflation rate again

[Nakena]

Don't worry. By the time this becomes relevant, thanks to the Technoking we will already have observatories on the moon.

Ground based telescopes on the Moon are a terrible idea. Prohibitively expensive and rife with engineering challenges in dealing with the extremes of the lunar environment and its effects on keeping instruments at the appropriate temperature. Nothing about them couldn't be accomplished much cheaper on an Earth orbiting platform or on the Earth's surface.

The rise of people with an mindset like yours made Elon Musk necessary.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Can we declare him a James Bond villain yet?

He always was.

[The Blaatschapen]

Quite offtopic, but, what is the plan afterwards.

America has done some overthrowing in the past, that's the easy part. The hard part is what comes after.

Overthrowing Saddam Hussein took less than a month. But the aftermath took(is taking) a whole lot longer.

Idk just place someone who knows how to run the ecomomy so that you don't have a 69420666% annual inflation rate again

Good to see that you don't know.

I don't know either. What I do know is that it's a bloody hard problem, that requires careful planning before being executed. And even then it might go wrong.

Not a fan of Maduro here either, but without having a solution that will work and is an improvement, i'd let crappy dictators stay.

[Heloin]

Can we declare him a James Bond villain yet?

He always was.

I like Goldfinger better.

Quite offtopic, but, what is the plan afterwards.

America has done some overthrowing in the past, that's the easy part. The hard part is what comes after.

Overthrowing Saddam Hussein took less than a month. But the aftermath took(is taking) a whole lot longer.

Idk just place someone who knows how to run the ecomomy so that you don't have a 69420666% annual inflation rate again

So no plan whatsoever.

[National Capitalist United States]

Idk just place someone who knows how to run the ecomomy so that you don't have a 69420666% annual inflation rate again

Good to see that you don't know.

I don't know either. What I do know is that it's a bloody hard problem, that requires careful planning before being executed. And even then it might go wrong.

Not a fan of Maduro here either, but without having a solution that will work and is an improvement, i'd let crappy dictators stay.

Normally I would to, but with an inflation rate over the charts, millions of refugeees in nearby countries, and going from the best to worst south american country, the US needs to do something.

[Silvedania]

Can we declare him a James Bond villain yet?

He always was.

Pretty sure that's Rami Malek's new character in No Time to Die.

[Nilokeras]

Ground based telescopes on the Moon are a terrible idea. Prohibitively expensive and rife with engineering challenges in dealing with the extremes of the lunar environment and its effects on keeping instruments at the appropriate temperature. Nothing about them couldn't be accomplished much cheaper on an Earth orbiting platform or on the Earth's surface.

The rise of people with an mindset like yours made Elon Musk necessary.

People who want to allocate scarce resources to most effectively leverage space exploration and expansion? Space is great and exploration/discovery/innovation is great but dumb projects are dumb projects.

[Ethel mermania]

The rise of people with an mindset like yours made Elon Musk necessary.

People who want to allocate scarce resources to most effectively leverage space exploration and expansion? Space is great and exploration/discovery/innovation is great but dumb projects are dumb projects.

Its not a dumb project, he is planning on bring the internet to places where it would cost 100's of millions to bring it in as fiber, and he is going to make money while doing good.

Which is the point, everyone says let's do this, or let's do that. He went out and raised the money to do what he wants, he at least has the balls to put his money where his mouth is and do something. Where everyone else wants someone else to foot the bill.

[Major-Tom]

Can we declare him a James Bond villain yet?

He always was.

More of a Hank Scorpio type, really.

[Ethel mermania]

He always was.

More of a Hank Scorpio type, really.

I think hank had a better benefit plan for his people.

[Major-Tom]

More of a Hank Scorpio type, really.

I think hank had a better benefit plan for his people.

Probably, yes.

[Nilokeras]

People who want to allocate scarce resources to most effectively leverage space exploration and expansion? Space is great and exploration/discovery/innovation is great but dumb projects are dumb projects.

Its not a dumb project, he is planning on bring the internet to places where it would cost 100's of millions to bring it in as fiber, and he is going to make money while doing good.

Which is the point, everyone says let's do this, or let's do that. He went out and raised the money to do what he wants, he at least has the balls to put his money where his mouth is and do something. Where everyone else wants someone else to foot the bill.

We were talking about a telescope on the Moon, not Starlink.

[The Two Jerseys]

As someone whose cubicle has a name tag listing the novelty job titles bestowed upon me by my coworkers, I approve 100%.

[Nakena]

Its not a dumb project, he is planning on bring the internet to places where it would cost 100's of millions to bring it in as fiber, and he is going to make money while doing good.

Which is the point, everyone says let's do this, or let's do that. He went out and raised the money to do what he wants, he at least has the balls to put his money where his mouth is and do something. Where everyone else wants someone else to foot the bill.

We were talking about a telescope on the Moon, not Starlink.

Yup:

https://astronomy.com/news/2021/01/astr ... n-the-moon
Article by Nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-08941-8
Article by NASA: https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/space ... telescope/

etc.