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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:56 pm



Good grief, Pashinyan needs to let it go and resign.

It's clear that he's finished.
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Risottia wrote:
Anglicora wrote:About time. The political class betrayed Armenia. The international community abandoned her too. Hopefully the military succeeds and can restore stability and prosperity to Armenia.

The military that couldn't even deliver some slapping to Azerbaijan?
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Azeri casualties during the war were actually higher than Armenian casualties iirc.
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Salus Maior wrote:
Risottia wrote:The military that couldn't even deliver some slapping to Azerbaijan?
Rule a country?
Seriously?
The best chance for Armenia at this point would be becoming one with Putinland. :D


Azeri casualties during the war were actually higher than Armenian casualties iirc.

No, that was false, during the war, the Armenians reported very inflated figures but it was quite clear from observers on the ground that the Azeris were crushing the Armenians wholesale.
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Salus Maior wrote:
Risottia wrote:The military that couldn't even deliver some slapping to Azerbaijan?
Rule a country?
Seriously?
The best chance for Armenia at this point would be becoming one with Putinland. :D


Azeri casualties during the war were actually higher than Armenian casualties iirc.
Does this matter ? People were forced to fight. The Armenian government should now listen to the world a little bit because the mentality that shed the blood of Azerbaijani and Armenian children is the Armenian expansionist policy. Armenian people for a more democratic Armenia should respect the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan and Turkey because we're not their enemy.
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Postby Valentine Z » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:02 am

Is 2021 seriously going to be a year where everything coups?

... Okay, I hope I didn't jinx anything other than, I wish them all the best and I actually do hope this ends with relative peace.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:49 am


The PM is doneso, might as well just resign and stop this from escalating further.

Seems a lot of people do not like him.
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:57 am

Of course the military of Armenia wants the national leadership to resign in disgrace, the powers that be in Armenia got their country into a war that was lost or failed to negotiate more favorable terms or outcome in relation to Azerbaijan. Of course, the other interpretation could be that Armenia's military failed to win and it is Armenia's armed forces which should be revamped or overhauled so as to be better able to win the next time war breaks out.
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https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2021 ... yan-s-exit

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Wait what does Ireland have to do with... oh right.
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Valentine Z wrote:Is 2021 seriously going to be a year where everything coups?

... Okay, I hope I didn't jinx anything other than, I wish them all the best and I actually do hope this ends with relative peace.

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I guess he’s trying to get out by saying he’s not electable
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Seems he has used that line before

Pashinyan did offer a concession of sorts, saying that he would be open to early elections if the opposition agreed to them. That marks yet another reversal on that question: he had said he was open to snap elections in December, before walking that back in February.

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Seems he has used that line before

Pashinyan did offer a concession of sorts, saying that he would be open to early elections if the opposition agreed to them. That marks yet another reversal on that question: he had said he was open to snap elections in December, before walking that back in February.


Yep, that's what I was thinking too, he clearly doesn't want to give up power, and now that he's hard pressed, he's back to the whole "let's totally have an election" speech, and when the situation calms down, he'll attempt to renegotiate.
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I'm naturally inclined to oppose whatever side the US ends up backing. We have a great track record when it comes to picking factions in these situations.
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Bear Stearns wrote:I'm naturally inclined to oppose whatever side the US ends up backing. We have a great track record when it comes to picking factions in these situations.
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Postby Avatarrhoene » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:12 am

Pashinyan is turning into the Bibi Netanyahu of Armenia - and the result is a nation weakened by internal division and threatened from all sides.

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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:44 am



He seems to be grasping at straws and just making things worse at this point.

Honestly, a government resignation as a result of being responsible for a decisive military defeat with a subsequent humiliating loss of territory seems like the only sound solution. I can't recall many examples where a non-dictatorship national government managed to lose a war and territory and stay in charge.
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
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Azeri casualties during the war were actually higher than Armenian casualties iirc.
Does this matter ? People were forced to fight. The Armenian government should now listen to the world a little bit because the mentality that shed the blood of Azerbaijani and Armenian children is the Armenian expansionist policy. Armenian people for a more democratic Armenia should respect the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan and Turkey because we're not their enemy.

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But Baltenstein, leave it to free-market-devotees to believe that they should always be in charge, and that if reality will not adjust itself to that notion, all they have to do is call reality's manager.
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