American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

[Cannot think of a name]

lol, I used to work as a 7 Eleven cashier clerk, I was robbed at gun point by two guys wearing masks before the virus crisis. They tied my hands and took money $. But I was able to recognize them by body weight, structure and other features. Then another night I saw them coming back for more, I fired my gun into the air as safely as possible to scare them off, and it worked they ran and left and never came back. What a coincidence a guy representing the ACLU told me you can't do that, the Leftist ACLU guy was defending the crooks who tied me up and robbed me and my 7 Eleven Store. Yes I am a Proud right wing Republican Trump Supporter, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizen of the USA - GMS.

Lol, the ALCU doesn't do cases like this. Plus, it is a crime to fire a gun in the air in many urban locations. So, I’m going to say your story is pure balderdash.

This story so didn't happen. I mean, this isn't breaking news. No one believes this horribly made up story. I also like in this made up bullshit no way happened ever in a million years story he also managed to demonstrate that he should not be trusted with a firearm. Shot in the air...for fuck's sake. Someone explain gravity to this cat.

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/ky-general-assembly/2021/03/29/kentucky-house-passes-bill-allow-three-days-early-voting-pass/7045488002/

Kentucky lawmakers pass key election reforms, including early voting. The bill passed 91-3 and now heads to the governor’s desk who will almost certainly sign it.

Establishing three days of in-person early voting on the Thursday, Friday and Saturday before Election Day;
Letting people "cure" their absentee ballots if a problem, such as a mismatched signature, would otherwise cause it to be thrown out;
Making the online portal through which Kentuckians requested — and government officials tracked — absentee ballots in 2020 a standard feature of future elections;
Letting counties offer vote centers where residents from any precinct can cast their ballot;
Allowing for secure drop-boxes where people can turn in their absentee ballots;
Requiring counties to gradually phase out electronic-only voting systems and switch to equipment that can process paper ballots;
Letting state officials quickly remove someone from the voter rolls if they're notified that person moved to and registered to vote in another state.
Beshear and Secretary of State Michael Adams made notable but temporary changes to Kentucky's elections last year because of the coronavirus pandemic. HB 574 will adopt some of those things, such as no-excuse early voting and the online portal for absentee ballots, for the long term.

Not bad, Kentucky
Not bad at all

I had to re-read that several times going, "Wait, am I missing the shittiness? These all seem like good things...but it's Kentucky..,"

The Department of Justice is investigating Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) for trafficking, and a possible sexual relationship with a 17-yr-old girl. The investigation was opened under former AG Bill Barr and briefed to senior Trump DOJ officials.

That's so fucked I feel like shit just knowing it happened now.

Colorado lifts statute of limitations for victims of sexual assualt

Colorado will give recent and future sexual assault survivors, including those molested as children, unlimited time to sue their abusers. But a separate effort to give victims of historic abuse an opportunity to take legal action remains pending and uncertain.

State lawmakers on Tuesday sent Senate Bill 73, which would eliminate the civil statute of limitations for sexual assault cases, to Gov. Jared Polis, who says he will sign the measure into law.

Legislation eliminating the civil statute of limitations for sexual assault cases has repeatedly failed in the Colorado General Assembly, including at least three times in the 15 years preceding the 2021 lawmaking term. But following a 2019 report on widespread child sexual abuse by Catholic priests in Colorado, the effort gained new steam.

"I’m truly speechless,” said state Rep. Matt Soper, a Delta Republican who championed the measure. “This is 30 years in the making.”

Under current law, child sex assault victims in Colorado have six years from the day they turn 18 to sue their abusers. Senate Bill 73 gives people for whom that six-year statute of limitations hasn’t run out and anyone abused after Jan. 1, 2022, unlimited time to file a lawsuit against their abuser or abusers.

The legislation does not affect victims of historic sexual abuse, such as those abused by Colorado priests decades ago. For criminal cases, there is no statute of limitations for child sex assault in Colorado." [...] Lawmakers made one last-minute change to Senate Bill 73, aligning the measure with Colorado’s criminal sexual assault laws to ensure the statute of limitations elimination only applies to felony and Class 1 misdemeanor cases.

“We wanted to make sure that we narrowed the scope of the sweep of this bill so that we only were catching up the worst of the worst,” Soper said, explaining that some lawmakers were worried that the bill would, for instance, allow people to file lawsuits against college streakers after decades.

Shelby Weiman, a spokeswoman for the governor, said Polis will sign the bill. The legislature is also debating Senate Bill 88, which would give historic victims of child sex abuse time to sue their abusers and institutions that may have covered up their crimes.

There are questions, however, about whether the legislation violates a clause in the Colorado constitution barring lawsuits from being filed in cases for which the statute of limitations has expired. State Sen. Bob Gardner, R-Colorado Springs, said he thinks the legislation has “serious constitutional issues” and that it’s likely to be struck down in court.

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[Postauthoritarian America]

The Department of Justice is investigating Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) for trafficking, and a possible sexual relationship with a 17-yr-old girl. The investigation was opened under former AG Bill Barr and briefed to senior Trump DOJ officials.

Which party are the pedophiles again? I forget.

[Zurkir]

The Department of Justice is investigating Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) for trafficking, and a possible sexual relationship with a 17-yr-old girl. The investigation was opened under former AG Bill Barr and briefed to senior Trump DOJ officials.

Which party are the pedophiles again? I forget.

Both really. Deviancy seems to be a political pastime.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Who gets to decide which news sources are Fake News and True News? I don't decide for any persons, I read all right wing and leftist sources, I see and watch all videos posted by right wing sources and leftist sources.

All right wing sources and leftist sources post on all issues, there are actually more than just two news sources, there are many different news sources.

I will repeat myself like the broken record I am because the post response fits the post again and I don't care, a certain leftist person had the nerve to decide for me which news sources I should post from, comment from and link from, what a coincidence they all agree with his or hers leftists views, how dare I do the same for this leftist person to suggest news sources that agrees with my right wing views.

When a news source routinely reports conspiracies; that should be a warning flag for you. When a news source gets rather lax with it’s internal fact checking; that should be a warning flag for you.

Your problem is your information is all right wing. People who evaluate tend to have many sources.

Seriously; if an evil leftest source says this nonsense and your sources are talking about conspiracies the deep state and they are looking to make you socialists? Time to jettison them as a major source.

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I did forget one comment. When you last reported your list of sources. None were leftist. They were all red news outlets of varying degrees.

I ask you and all of you again, decided by whom those who just happen to agree with you by coincidence not by intent of course, or those disagree with you by whatever reasons?

[Cannot think of a name]

The Department of Justice is investigating Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) for trafficking, and a possible sexual relationship with a 17-yr-old girl. The investigation was opened under former AG Bill Barr and briefed to senior Trump DOJ officials.

Which party are the pedophiles again? I forget.

I mean, being a creep-a-doo knows no partisanship, but after four years of all that conspiracy bullshit to have it be a Republican...

...though honestly...unfazed, those people will be unfazed. He's just part of the 'establishment' that's in on it and strengthens their resolve to cling to their creep-a-doo outsider who will somehow save them.

[Shrillland]

Watergate Mastermind and Conservative firebrand G. Gordon Liddy dead at age 90

[Greater Miami Shores]

I don’t know much about OAN myself but the terms “far-right” and “alt-right” painted with too broad a brush these days. I will say that.

Has OAN posted/released anything recently questionable for reference?

Well, an "election expert" said that the Georgia voting laws make the elections more fair and transparent.
https://www.oann.com/election-expert-new-ga-law-makes-elections-more-fair-and-transparent/

I, we and us strongly agree with this - The Georgia law requires a photo ID in order to vote absentee by mail, and we want all persons in all states to have a photo voting ID.

It also cuts the time people have to request an absentee ballot and limits where ballot drop boxes can be placed and when they can be accessed.

According to this article, not according to me:
Depending on their location, ballot drop boxes are often monitored by surveillance cameras or election workers that work specified hours—offering a secure, faster alternative to submitting completed absentee/mail-in ballots. (To be clear, there are certain locations that are not monitored by cameras or election officials, though this is not recommended to election officials.
https://news.yahoo.com/guide-ballot-drop-boxes

The bill would replace the elected secretary of state as the chair of the state election board with a new appointee of the legislature - either way it is either a Democrat or Republican in any state. It needs to be a council Democrats and Republicans in equal numbers sharing the power, duties and responsibilities of the office as it is on my real world based nation of Greater Miami Shores.

The bill also reduces the timeframe in which runoff elections are held, including the amount of early voting for runoffs. And it would bar outside groups from handing out food or water to people standing in line to vote - They don't need food or water to stand in line to vote, they don't need any Republican or Democrat propaganda fliers to stand in line to vote.

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[North Washington Republic]

Which party are the pedophiles again? I forget.

I mean, being a creep-a-doo knows no partisanship, but after four years of all that conspiracy bullshit to have it be a Republican...

...though honestly...unfazed, those people will be unfazed. He's just part of the 'establishment' that's in on it and strengthens their resolve to cling to their creep-a-doo outsider who will somehow save them.

It is one side that believes that the other side are satanic pedophiles that drink the blood of young children or at least tolerates this belief. And when people on that side are creditably accused of engaging in statutory rape, I think it’s fair to point out the hypocrisy

[Cannot think of a name]

I mean, being a creep-a-doo knows no partisanship, but after four years of all that conspiracy bullshit to have it be a Republican...

...though honestly...unfazed, those people will be unfazed. He's just part of the 'establishment' that's in on it and strengthens their resolve to cling to their creep-a-doo outsider who will somehow save them.

It is one side that believes that the other side are satanic pedophiles that drink the blood of young children or at least tolerates this belief. And when people on that side are creditably accused of engaging in statutory rape, I think it’s fair to point out the hypocrisy

I get that.

[Galloism]

So as a way to fund road infrastructure, it's not a terrible idea in of itself. It's how the fuel tax works effectively - people who drive more pay more in road tax. People who drive heavier vehicles pay more in road tax (consuming more fuel).

It is rather difficult to administer compared with the proxy for it (fuel tax), and I don't see the reason to get rid of an easier method for a more difficult method, or, alternatively, adding the more difficult method when we could just increase the tax on the easier method.

Plus using the simpler method has a few side perks as well - more fuel efficient vehicles are effectively incentivized, as they are cheaper to operate.

Part of the reason is the growing popularity of electric and hybrid cars. A tax on fuel is less effective if people buy less fuel to drive the same distance.

And that’s a perk of the fuel tax. It incentivizes public behavior that’s beneficial for society.

This is what’s called a “policy success”.

[Kowani]

a lot

The Georgia law requires a photo ID in order to vote absentee by mail, after more than 1.3 million Georgia voters used that option during the COVID-19 pandemic. It also cuts the time people have to request an absentee ballot and limits where ballot drop boxes can be placed and when they can be accessed. [...]
One of the biggest changes in the bill would give the GOP-controlled legislature more control over election administration, a change that has raised concerns among voting rights groups that it could lead to greater partisan influence.The bill would replace the elected secretary of state as the chair of the state election board with a new appointee of the legislature after Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger rebuffed Trump’s attempts to overturn Georgia’s election results. It would also allow the board to remove and replace county election officials deemed to be underperforming. The bill also reduces the timeframe in which runoff elections are held, including the amount of early voting for runoffs. And it would bar outside groups from handing out food or water to people standing in line to vote.

Well firstly, I’m all about voter ID. I was even before I could vote.

why? there's no reality-based reason for voter ID laws-but there is a partisan advantage to them
an out of state example, if you will: take the city of Houston. Texas mandates voter ID laws. But they require only some Ids as valid. A bus pass issued by the county, for example is not valid. So everyone is required to get a DL (non-driving) in order to vote. Below is the map of Houston. For scale, let me tell you Houston is the 4th largest city and distance from one side to another is 50 miles. There's only one DMV (Texas department of public safety) ,that is circled, serving whole South and mostly Western Houston. This is the major Democratic area and its mostly people of color. We're talking some 2–3 million people getting served by one small DMV. It's small and overcrowded. On top of that this was closed for “renovations” on August 2018 and estimating it to be opened by end of November 2018. Guess what happened in between. Mid-term elections, Gubernatorial election and Senate election (Beto vs Ted Cruz). On the other hand go down Southwest about 20 miles on a highway, there's a huge mega-center where you'll be done in 5 - 15 minutes in a very republican area (white). You're going to think people can go there. Here's the catch. Many of the people in the city don't drive because they can't afford a car, and no public transportation goes there.

Now that's how you use a seemingly neutral law to your advantage.

“It also cuts the time people have to request an absentee ballot and limits where ballot drop boxes can be placed and when they can be accessed.”

As for that, again - I don’t really see the issue myself. Unless of course you have people being hamstrung with their voting regarding the deadline of when people are able to request an absentee ballot.

that is the intention, yes.
allow me to give an example. let us say that you, a representative from one party, want to win the election
you know that one neighborhood is more likely to vote for the other party. So what you do is you drastically shut close the ballot boxes in neighborhoods that don't vote for you-and you give them access times at odd hours, so that less people can fit it with their schedule.
These two tricks tend to work great on poor and/or rural areas, in particular.

” One of the biggest changes in the bill would give the GOP-controlled legislature more control over election administration,”

More information?

secondary source: "Much of the work administering elections in Georgia is handled by the state’s 159 counties. The law gives the State Election Board new powers to intervene in county election offices and to remove and replace local election officials. That has led to concerns that the Republican-controlled state board could exert more influence over the administration of elections, including the certification of county results. Under the law, the board could intervene in up to four counties at a time and install a temporary superintendent with the ability to hire and fire personnel including elections directors and poll officers."

” The bill would replace the elected secretary of state as the chair of the state election board with a new appointee of the legislature after Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger rebuffed Trump’s attempts to overturn Georgia’s election results.”

Sorry about all the questions but is this legit?

...yes?

”And it would bar outside groups from handing out food or water to people standing in line to vote.”

Eh-... what?

The new law makes it a misdemeanor to hand out “any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink” to anyone standing in line to vote. The prohibition extends 150 feet from a polling place and 25 feet from any person standing in line.

[North Washington Republic]

Well, an "election expert" said that the Georgia voting laws make the elections more fair and transparent.
https://www.oann.com/election-expert-new-ga-law-makes-elections-more-fair-and-transparent/

I, we and us strongly agree with this - The Georgia law requires a photo ID in order to vote absentee by mail, and we want all persons in all states to have a photo voting ID.

It also cuts the time people have to request an absentee ballot and limits where ballot drop boxes can be placed and when they can be accessed.

According to this article, not according to me:
Depending on their location, ballot drop boxes are often monitored by surveillance cameras or election workers that work specified hours—offering a secure, faster alternative to submitting completed absentee/mail-in ballots. (To be clear, there are certain locations that are not monitored by cameras or election officials, though this is not recommended to election officials.
https://news.yahoo.com/guide-ballot-drop-boxes

The bill would replace the elected secretary of state as the chair of the state election board with a new appointee of the legislature - either way it is either a Democrat or Republican in any state. It needs to be a council Democrats and Republicans in equal numbers sharing the power, duties and responsibilities of the office as it is on my real world based nation of Greater Miami Shores.

The bill also reduces the timeframe in which runoff elections are held, including the amount of early voting for runoffs. And it would bar outside groups from handing out food or water to people standing in line to vote - They don't need food or water to stand in line to vote, they don't need any Republican or Democrat propaganda fliers to stand in line to vote.

To all Persons, Just in case so I don't get reported for double posting, please view and post your views on my previous post if you wish to do so, thank you all.
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Um, you do realize there is a difference between giving food and water to voters that have been standing in line for 3+ hours and distributing campaign material, right?

[Greater Miami Shores]

I, we and us strongly agree with this - The Georgia law requires a photo ID in order to vote absentee by mail, and we want all persons in all states to have a photo voting ID.

It also cuts the time people have to request an absentee ballot and limits where ballot drop boxes can be placed and when they can be accessed.

According to this article, not according to me:
Depending on their location, ballot drop boxes are often monitored by surveillance cameras or election workers that work specified hours—offering a secure, faster alternative to submitting completed absentee/mail-in ballots. (To be clear, there are certain locations that are not monitored by cameras or election officials, though this is not recommended to election officials.
https://news.yahoo.com/guide-ballot-drop-boxes

The bill would replace the elected secretary of state as the chair of the state election board with a new appointee of the legislature - either way it is either a Democrat or Republican in any state. It needs to be a council Democrats and Republicans in equal numbers sharing the power, duties and responsibilities of the office as it is on my real world based nation of Greater Miami Shores.

The bill also reduces the timeframe in which runoff elections are held, including the amount of early voting for runoffs. And it would bar outside groups from handing out food or water to people standing in line to vote - They don't need food or water to stand in line to vote, they don't need any Republican or Democrat propaganda fliers to stand in line to vote.

To all Persons, Just in case so I don't get reported for double posting, please view and post your views on my previous post if you wish to do so, thank you all.
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Um, you do realize there is a difference between giving food and water to voters that have been standing in line for 3+ hours and distributing campaign material, right?

Yes I do, both Republicans and Democrats can have their given food and water while standing in line to vote.

[Eahland]

The Department of Justice is investigating Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) for trafficking, and a possible sexual relationship with a 17-yr-old girl. The investigation was opened under former AG Bill Barr and briefed to senior Trump DOJ officials.

Which party are the pedophiles again? I forget.

All Republican accusations are secretly confessions.

[Postauthoritarian America]

Watergate Mastermind and Conservative firebrand G. Gordon Liddy dead at age 90

Liddy got his start busting Donald Fagen and Walter Becker for drugs when they were undergrads at Bard College in Annandale, NY. So his one positive contribution to the world was inspiring "My Old School."

(Watch for Fagen muffing the lipsynched lyric, Skunk Baxter fake-tuning his guitar and the offscreen sax section featuring Ernie Watts 15 years before Quartet West...)

[North Washington Republic]

Um, you do realize there is a difference between giving food and water to voters that have been standing in line for 3+ hours and distributing campaign material, right?

Yes I do, both Republicans and Democrats can have their given food and water while standing in line to vote.

No, the bill makes it illegal to give voters food and water that have been standing in line for 3+ hours.

The bill is designed to discourage people to stay in line to vote.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Which party are the pedophiles again? I forget.

All Republican accusations are secretly confessions.

Funny that is what many Democrats say about Republicans in reverse, lol

[Zurkir]

(For Kowani.)

Well I mean the United States does have a history of voting fraud in the past. I believe there was a mayor in Chicago (I can’t remember his name.) that was winning elections by ballot stuffing and dragging in repeat voters and unregistered voters. Not a case I’m making for the 2020 election just a generalization. A base point for voter ID it to prevent the votes of eligible voters from being stolen or diluted by a fraudulent or bogus vote cast by an ineligible or imaginary voter.

People in this country need a photo ID for everyday activities from filling a prescription to cashing checks to applying for marriage license and so on. Hans Anatol von Spakovsky who was a member of the FEC spoke along this very basic point.

Regardless of wether or not voting fraud is common or not, to me the reason for having it is valid enough. The reasons to oppose it, not so much. Cynical as this sounds, an overcrowded DMV (that is there year after year when elections are spread years apart) isn’t a good enough reason for axing voter ID simply because the process of getting voter ID is tedious and demanding even. Lots of things are tedious and inconvenient.

that is the intention, yes.
allow me to give an example. let us say that you, a representative from one party, want to win the election
you know that one neighborhood is more likely to vote for the other party. So what you do is you drastically shut close the ballot boxes in neighborhoods that don't vote for you-and you give them access times at odd hours, so that less people can fit it with their schedule.
These two tricks tend to work great on poor and/or rural areas, in particular.

This - regarding the time-trolling - I concede to your point.
As for limits to ballot box placements and when they can be accessed that I support.

Now regarding the shiving of Brad Raffensperger... *groan* I wasn’t questioning your validity it was more like “...Seriously?” He refused to overturn the Georgia elections so he has to go then?

As for the “money and gifts” but the only conceivable defense for that I can come up with is attempted vote buying. Of course I can’t see someone changing their vote over a jelly doughnut or a pizza...

[Galloism]

Well I mean the United States does have a history of voting fraud in the past. I believe there was a mayor in Chicago (I can’t remember his name.) that was winning elections by ballot stuffing and dragging in repeat voters and unregistered voters.

Master Necromancer Mayor Daley is both an aberration overall and voter ID wouldn’t have stopped him, as the fraud was taking place by postal poll workers, not people showing up and pretending to be dead people.

Edit: typed the wrong thing

[Greater Miami Shores]

Well I mean the United States does have a history of voting fraud in the past. I believe there was a mayor in Chicago (I can’t remember his name.) that was winning elections by ballot stuffing and dragging in repeat voters and unregistered voters.

Master Necromancer Mayor Daley is both an aberration overall and voter ID wouldn’t have stopped him, as the fraud was taking place by postal workers, not people showing up and pretending to be dead people.

Postal workers, you mean vote fraud by mail in ballots, interesting, I used to live in Chicago.

[Galloism]

Master Necromancer Mayor Daley is both an aberration overall and voter ID wouldn’t have stopped him, as the fraud was taking place by postal workers, not people showing up and pretending to be dead people.

Postal workers, you mean vote fraud by mail in ballots, interesting, I used to live in Chicago.

Sorry, not postal workers. I mean poll workers. I’ll edit.

[Zurkir]

Well I mean the United States does have a history of voting fraud in the past. I believe there was a mayor in Chicago (I can’t remember his name.) that was winning elections by ballot stuffing and dragging in repeat voters and unregistered voters.

Master Necromancer Mayor Daley is both an aberration overall and voter ID wouldn’t have stopped him, as the fraud was taking place by postal workers, not people showing up and pretending to be dead people.

(So that’s who it was.)

Still, just one example. Although speaking without sources isn’t the best - I’m pretty sure I’ve heard accounts of bringing in repeat and unregistered voters... I didn’t say anything about corpses.

[Galloism]

Master Necromancer Mayor Daley is both an aberration overall and voter ID wouldn’t have stopped him, as the fraud was taking place by postal workers, not people showing up and pretending to be dead people.

(So that’s who it was.)

Still, just one example. Although speaking without sources isn’t the best - I’m pretty sure I’ve heard accounts of bringing in repeat and unregistered voters... I didn’t say anything about corpses.

Poll workers not postal workers.

I put the wrong word.

[Zurkir]

(So that’s who it was.)

Still, just one example. Although speaking without sources isn’t the best - I’m pretty sure I’ve heard accounts of bringing in repeat and unregistered voters... I didn’t say anything about corpses.

Poll workers not postal workers.

I put the wrong word.

Still, thank you for the funny mental image of mailmen pulling off onto backroads and cramming a night’s worth of forged ballots into the boxes.

[Galloism]

Poll workers not postal workers.

I put the wrong word.

Still, thank you for the funny mental image of mailmen pulling off onto backroads and cramming a night’s worth of forged ballots into the boxes.

You can thank Don Q.