American Politics III: New President, Same Old Country

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Eugene Goodman and other Capitol Police defenders have been awarded the Congressional Gold Medal, the second-highest civilian honour behind the Medal of Freedom

Medal of Freedom when?

[Shrillland]

Eugene Goodman and other Capitol Police defenders have been awarded the Congressional Gold Medal, the second-highest civilian honour behind the Medal of Freedom

Medal of Freedom when?

Soon enough, I'm sure.

[The Marlborough]

Ethnicity incorporates a belief of shared blood descent.

Not necessarily. Not all Hispanics are descended from the same people.

Hispanic isn't a single ethnicity. At least not for many it isn't.

[Kowani]

Clapper permanently bans QAnon-related content after it became the next refuge when Parler went down

[No State Here]

Ethnicity incorporates a belief of shared blood descent.

Not necessarily. Not all Hispanics are descended from the same people.

In the modern context, "hispanic" is a pretty meaningless term. In both 2016 and 2020 people predicted landslide blue victories and the chance of the end of the GOP due to Hispanic immigration, then acted all surprised when it didn’t happen. Americans have a bad habit of generalizing groups which aren’t white as a whole, and that’s not just white Americans but all Americans, it’s a mentality that’s pretty much taught in school and used as a basis for voting patterns.

If you look at the underlying context, the reason everyone’s predictions were rong was because they’re ignoring where these immigrants come from, people from Cuba and Venezuela aren’t going to vote solidly blue like those from Central America, Mexicans seem to be fairly split, same as Puerto Ricans

[Rusozak]

Medal of Freedom when?

Soon enough, I'm sure.

And maybe reclaim the dignity of presidential medals from the past 4 years.

[New haven america]

Jesus race is a tiring concept. It would be nice if we just considered it like how we consider hair or eye colours.

Race makes no sense. I think ethnicity is a better classication since it's about culture and not biology.

No it's not, because ethnicity is just as fickle and arbitrary as race.

Ok, here's the thing, humans don't have race. We don't. Why? Because in biology race is an actual term and said term is used to denote subspecies, the Asian and African Elephants are different races of Elephant for example. Human don't have a race because we killed off or interbred with our remaining subspecies ~100,00-60,000 years ago.

What human race is is a different biological phenomena altogether, Polymorphism. You see, polymorphism is basically minor aesthetic and evolutionary differences to help animals survive better in different area, but still retain being part of the same species. For example, are the Panther and Jaguar seperate species? Nope! They are the same species (Jaguar) and they breed on the regular producing mixed litters of black and spotted cubs, the only difference between them is that Panthers have darker fur.

As is the case with humans. White people and Black people can breed and have viable offspring, Asians and Black people can breed and have viable offspring, and White people and Asians can breed and have viable offspring. Hence calling humans different races makes no sense biologically because we're all the same species. (It's just that different DNA markers are active depending on the "Race" of the person, as we all share the same DNA)

[Kowani]

Biden administration officials are weighing nominating prominent Republicans to ambassadorships, including Cindy McCain and former Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) to highlight the importance of bipartisanship in U.S. foreign policy

[Washington Resistance Army]

Biden administration officials are weighing nominating prominent Republicans to ambassadorships, including Cindy McCain and former Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) to highlight the importance of bipartisanship in U.S. foreign policy

God no. The McCain clan needs to go away forever.

[Shrillland]

Biden administration officials are weighing nominating prominent Republicans to ambassadorships, including Cindy McCain and former Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) to highlight the importance of bipartisanship in U.S. foreign policy

I get what he's trying to do, but now is not the time for overtures. We must not back down on beating back the Republicans at this time. We must ensure that they purge the unhealthy element from the party, even if it means having to starve them into submission. Not literally, of course, just through messaging and money.

[Neutraligon]

Biden administration officials are weighing nominating prominent Republicans to ambassadorships, including Cindy McCain and former Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) to highlight the importance of bipartisanship in U.S. foreign policy

I get what he's trying to do, but now is not the time for overtures. We must not back down on beating back the Republicans at this time. We must ensure that they purge the unhealthy element from the party, even if it means having to starve them into submission. Not literally, of course, just through messaging and money.

Actually, while ambassadorship is very important, it is not a bad place for those on the other side of the aisle. It is very hard for an ambassador to mess things up, and they can very easily be withdrawn at the president's whim.

[Punished UMN]

Race makes no sense. I think ethnicity is a better classication since it's about culture and not biology.

No it's not, because ethnicity is just as fickle and arbitrary as race.

Ok, here's the thing, humans don't have race. We don't. Why? Because in biology race is an actual term and said term is used to denote subspecies, the Asian and African Elephants are different races of Elephant for example. Human don't have a race because we killed off or interbred with our remaining subspecies ~100,00-60,000 years ago.

What human race is is a different biological phenomena altogether, Polymorphism. You see, polymorphism is basically minor aesthetic and evolutionary differences to help animals survive better in different area, but still retain being part of the same species. For example, are the Panther and Jaguar seperate species? Nope! They are the same species (Jaguar) and they breed on the regular producing mixed litters of black and spotted cubs, the only difference between them is that Panthers have darker fur.

As is the case with humans. White people and Black people can breed and have viable offspring, Asians and Black people can breed and have viable offspring, and White people and Asians can breed and have viable offspring. Hence calling humans different races makes no sense biologically because we're all the same species. (It's just that different DNA markers are active depending on the "Race" of the person, as we all share the same DNA)

That has nothing to do with what he said, ethnicity isn't about DNA or biological traits, it's about society and culture. Race and ethnicity are not interchangeable and refer to extremely different things. Ethnicity and nationality are kind of the same thing in sociological terms.

[Kowani]

oh this is definitely going to be crossposted

Tennessee Lawmakers Introduce Bill To Allow Fathers To Veto Abortions

A bill introduced in the Tennessee General Assembly this week would allow a man who gets a woman pregnant to request an injunction barring her from having an abortion.

The legislation, SB0494 in the Senate and HB1079 in the House, would require a court hearing to be held within 14 days of a petition being filed by the individual seeking an injunction.

At the hearing, if the man can prove that he is the biological father and that there is a “reasonable probability” that the woman would obtain an abortion, the court shall issue an injunction prohibiting her from terminating the pregnancy. Proof of parenthood requires only that the petitioner acknowledges paternity. A DNA test is not required.

If the woman violates the injunction by obtaining an abortion, the court may hold her in civil or criminal contempt. There are no exceptions for rape or incest.

The legislation was sponsored by state Sen. Mark Pody (R) and state Rep. Jerry Sexton (R).

Billtext here

[Neutraligon]

No it's not, because ethnicity is just as fickle and arbitrary as race.

Ok, here's the thing, humans don't have race. We don't. Why? Because in biology race is an actual term and said term is used to denote subspecies, the Asian and African Elephants are different races of Elephant for example. Human don't have a race because we killed off or interbred with our remaining subspecies ~100,00-60,000 years ago.

What human race is is a different biological phenomena altogether, Polymorphism. You see, polymorphism is basically minor aesthetic and evolutionary differences to help animals survive better in different area, but still retain being part of the same species. For example, are the Panther and Jaguar seperate species? Nope! They are the same species (Jaguar) and they breed on the regular producing mixed litters of black and spotted cubs, the only difference between them is that Panthers have darker fur.

As is the case with humans. White people and Black people can breed and have viable offspring, Asians and Black people can breed and have viable offspring, and White people and Asians can breed and have viable offspring. Hence calling humans different races makes no sense biologically because we're all the same species. (It's just that different DNA markers are active depending on the "Race" of the person, as we all share the same DNA)

That has nothing to do with what he said, ethnicity isn't about DNA or biological traits, it's about society and culture. Race and ethnicity are not interchangeable and refer to extremely different things. Ethnicity and nationality are kind of the same thing in sociological terms.

Not really considering that while I am American I am ethnically a Jew (yay for ethno-religions).

[Neutraligon]

oh this is definitely going to be crossposted

Tennessee Lawmakers Introduce Bill To Allow Fathers To Veto Abortions

A bill introduced in the Tennessee General Assembly this week would allow a man who gets a woman pregnant to request an injunction barring her from having an abortion.

The legislation, SB0494 in the Senate and HB1079 in the House, would require a court hearing to be held within 14 days of a petition being filed by the individual seeking an injunction.

At the hearing, if the man can prove that he is the biological father and that there is a “reasonable probability” that the woman would obtain an abortion, the court shall issue an injunction prohibiting her from terminating the pregnancy. Proof of parenthood requires only that the petitioner acknowledges paternity. A DNA test is not required.

If the woman violates the injunction by obtaining an abortion, the court may hold her in civil or criminal contempt. There are no exceptions for rape or incest.

The legislation was sponsored by state Sen. Mark Pody (R) and state Rep. Jerry Sexton (R).

Billtext here

I think I am going to throw up.

[Punished UMN]

That has nothing to do with what he said, ethnicity isn't about DNA or biological traits, it's about society and culture. Race and ethnicity are not interchangeable and refer to extremely different things. Ethnicity and nationality are kind of the same thing in sociological terms.

Not really considering that while I am American I am ethnically a Jew (yay for ethno-religions).

That depends on if we are talking about nationality in terms of law or in sociology, as nations in terms of law are different than nations as a sociological category (it's overly confusing which is why I typically avoid using the term nation at all).

[Shrillland]

oh this is definitely going to be crossposted

Tennessee Lawmakers Introduce Bill To Allow Fathers To Veto Abortions

A bill introduced in the Tennessee General Assembly this week would allow a man who gets a woman pregnant to request an injunction barring her from having an abortion.

The legislation, SB0494 in the Senate and HB1079 in the House, would require a court hearing to be held within 14 days of a petition being filed by the individual seeking an injunction.

At the hearing, if the man can prove that he is the biological father and that there is a “reasonable probability” that the woman would obtain an abortion, the court shall issue an injunction prohibiting her from terminating the pregnancy. Proof of parenthood requires only that the petitioner acknowledges paternity. A DNA test is not required.

If the woman violates the injunction by obtaining an abortion, the court may hold her in civil or criminal contempt. There are no exceptions for rape or incest.

The legislation was sponsored by state Sen. Mark Pody (R) and state Rep. Jerry Sexton (R).

Billtext here

I think I am going to throw up.

Dear god....the party of personal responsibility and personal agency decides to take that agency away from the only person who has it in this instance.

[Neutraligon]

Not really considering that while I am American I am ethnically a Jew (yay for ethno-religions).

That depends on if we are talking about nationality in terms of law or in sociology, as nations in terms of law are different than nations as a sociological category (it's overly confusing which is why I typically avoid using the term nation at all).

Nationally I would be part of the tidewaters or Midlands of America considering where I was born and grew up if that is what you mean, ethnically I would still be a Jew.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Eugene Goodman and other Capitol Police defenders have been awarded the Congressional Gold Medal, the second-highest civilian honour behind the Medal of Freedom

Very very good. Eugene Goodman and the other Capital Police are heros and champions of democracy.

[Neutraligon]

Eugene Goodman and other Capitol Police defenders have been awarded the Congressional Gold Medal, the second-highest civilian honour behind the Medal of Freedom

Very very good. Eugene Goodman and the other Capital Police are heros and champions of democracy.

I wasn't sure if the capital police counted as civilians. Since they get the Congressional gold medal then they sure as hell deserve the medal of freedom, at least those who didn't aid/sit around and do nothing.

[Kowani]

I think I am going to throw up.

Dear god....the party of personal responsibility and personal agency decides to take that agency away from the only person who has it in this instance.

personal responsibility is when you force other people into giving birth

[Andsed]

oh this is definitely going to be crossposted

Tennessee Lawmakers Introduce Bill To Allow Fathers To Veto Abortions

A bill introduced in the Tennessee General Assembly this week would allow a man who gets a woman pregnant to request an injunction barring her from having an abortion.

The legislation, SB0494 in the Senate and HB1079 in the House, would require a court hearing to be held within 14 days of a petition being filed by the individual seeking an injunction.

At the hearing, if the man can prove that he is the biological father and that there is a “reasonable probability” that the woman would obtain an abortion, the court shall issue an injunction prohibiting her from terminating the pregnancy. Proof of parenthood requires only that the petitioner acknowledges paternity. A DNA test is not required.

If the woman violates the injunction by obtaining an abortion, the court may hold her in civil or criminal contempt. There are no exceptions for rape or incest.

The legislation was sponsored by state Sen. Mark Pody (R) and state Rep. Jerry Sexton (R).

Billtext here

......What kind of fuckery is this?

[New haven america]

That has nothing to do with what he said, ethnicity isn't about DNA or biological traits, it's about society and culture. Race and ethnicity are not interchangeable and refer to extremely different things. Ethnicity and nationality are kind of the same thing in sociological terms.

Not really considering that while I am American I am ethnically a Jew (yay for ethno-religions).

Also, are Black Americans considered ethnically American then?

Cause while having US citizenship, for most of US history the white majority was not particularly fond of giving them said citizenship, as well as a lot of black people having different cultural values compared to the white majority?

Actually, what would an ethnic American look like? Or better yet, how would we differentiate an Ethnic American from a say, Ethnic Canadian?

Or hell, lets move away from America and go say, Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia. They claim to all be different ethnicities but yet they all speak the same language, look similar, have similar political leanings, etc...? How are they different ethnicities when they share basically everything?

[Punished UMN]

That depends on if we are talking about nationality in terms of law or in sociology, as nations in terms of law are different than nations as a sociological category (it's overly confusing which is why I typically avoid using the term nation at all).

Nationally I would be part of the tidewaters or Midlands of America considering where I was born and grew up if that is what you mean, ethnically I would still be a Jew.

Many wouldn't draw a distinction but would instead argue you are a member of both nations, others might argue that Jews are not a national or ethnic group, but rather possess a "national or ethnic character which nevertheless does not cause them to constitute a nation" (Stalin, Marxism and the National Question). Some would even consider that Americans are another such group.

[Neutraligon]

Nationally I would be part of the tidewaters or Midlands of America considering where I was born and grew up if that is what you mean, ethnically I would still be a Jew.

Many wouldn't draw a distinction but would instead argue you are a member of both nations, others might argue that Jews are not a national or ethnic group, but rather possess a "national or ethnic character which nevertheless does not cause them to constitute a nation" (Stalin, Marxism and the National Question). Some would even consider that Americans are another such group.

In which case I would not be part of a nation, since my family is from all over Europe and Russia and I have basically nothing in common with people from those places.