American Politics Impeachment: 2 fast? No, we're 2 furious

[Thermodolia]

What are the odds that McConnell can whip the remaining Senate votes, even though Trump has a firm grip on the GOP base?

Nope. If anything he's trying to push it back to the point where it's all vanished from public consciousness and no-one will rage if they vote to acquit.

Um no. The idea is that without Trump in office it will be far easier to convict him and fear no retribution from Trump

[Thermodolia]

You're going about it all wrong. Just change the definition of "high-speed" to "150 mph, some of the time" and you don't have to spend a cent!

Fuck that. We need Maglev trains in this country, damn the inconvenience and cost....which is all Americans care about nowadays.

No. Maglevs aren’t trains

[Valrifell]

You're going about it all wrong. Just change the definition of "high-speed" to "150 mph, some of the time" and you don't have to spend a cent!

Fuck that. We need Maglev trains in this country, damn the inconvenience and cost....which is all Americans care about nowadays.

Shrill gets it.

[Shrillland]

Fuck that. We need Maglev trains in this country, damn the inconvenience and cost....which is all Americans care about nowadays.

No. Maglevs aren’t trains

In a country our size, it's what's needed, and it's better for the environment.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

What are the odds that McConnell can whip the remaining Senate votes, even though Trump has a firm grip on the GOP base?

Nope. If anything he's trying to push it back to the point where it's all vanished from public consciousness and no-one will rage if they vote to acquit.

I'm afraid you're right. You don't cosy up to that turtle unless you want to wake up with the fishes.

[Shrillland]

By the way, did you all see that Trump's old physician who called him the healthiest ever died this morning?

[Anatoliyanskiy]

Fuck that. We need Maglev trains in this country, damn the inconvenience and cost....which is all Americans care about nowadays.

No. Maglevs aren’t trains

no, maglevs are indeed trains. They run on rails, they just aren't physically connected to them. They would however be very beneficiary to the US public transport system.

[Esalia]

What are the odds that McConnell can whip the remaining Senate votes, even though Trump has a firm grip on the GOP base?

Nope. If anything he's trying to push it back to the point where it's all vanished from public consciousness and no-one will rage if they vote to acquit.

Not sure if he is pushing it back for that reason.

McConnell's not an idiot. He knows full well that the Trump base are not his fans, and that the Trump base can (if they're spiteful enough) attack McConnell and other moderate parts of the Republicans.

McConnell has a chance to cut the head off the snake by convicting Trump, and might be pushing it back to a) give it time to die out a little so Republicans feel safer to convict and b) so it might be overshadowed by the inauguration.

[Thermodolia]

No. Maglevs aren’t trains

no, maglevs are indeed trains. They run on rails, they just aren't physically connected to them. They would however be very beneficiary to the US public transport system.

I’m a train purist. A train has wheels and runs on rails. A Maglev runs on magnets not rails or wheels. Therefore not train.

No. Maglevs aren’t trains

In a country our size, it's what's needed, and it's better for the environment.

High speed electric trains will do the same thing and are far more affordable.

Besides you don’t need to connect cities like Miami and Chicago or LA and NYC by rail. You can use airplanes for those and use high speed rail to connect everything else

[Thermodolia]

Nope. If anything he's trying to push it back to the point where it's all vanished from public consciousness and no-one will rage if they vote to acquit.

Not sure if he is pushing it back for that reason.

McConnell's not an idiot. He knows full well that the Trump base are not his fans, and that the Trump base can (if they're spiteful enough) attack McConnell and other moderate parts of the Republicans.

McConnell has a chance to cut the head off the snake by convicting Trump, and might be pushing it back to a) give it time to die out a little so Republicans feel safer to convict and b) so it might be overshadowed by the inauguration.

It’s exactly that

[Ifreann]

Nope. If anything he's trying to push it back to the point where it's all vanished from public consciousness and no-one will rage if they vote to acquit.

Alternatively, the hope is that Trump will fade from the limelight to the point where GOP Senators can feel safe in burying him without major backlash from their own base.

I don't think that this is the kind of Senate business that will fade from the limelight.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

You're going about it all wrong. Just change the definition of "high-speed" to "150 mph, some of the time" and you don't have to spend a cent!

Fuck that. We need Maglev trains in this country, damn the inconvenience and cost....which is all Americans care about nowadays.

Wouldn't they use heaps of electricity?

Fast rail is one of those things I used to love. China crashing two into each other (2011) made me a lot more suspicious of the concept. Then France, 2015, killed 11 people due to excessive speed on a test run.

Japan --- France --- China

Where on that ^^^ spectrum for "doing stuff without fucking up" would we place the USA?

[Vassenor]

Fuck that. We need Maglev trains in this country, damn the inconvenience and cost....which is all Americans care about nowadays.

Wouldn't they use heaps of electricity?

Fast rail is one of those things I used to love. China crashing two into each other (2011) made me a lot more suspicious of the concept. Then France, 2015, killed 11 people due to excessive speed on a test run.

Japan --- France --- China

Where on that ^^^ spectrum for "doing stuff without fucking up" would we place the USA?

So high speed rail is bad because a driver ignored posted line speeds and crashed?

[The Holy Therns]

I'm probably not right, but I'm hoping that the Trump base will based on all the consequences of them storming the Capitol realize their approach to politics was absurd all along.

I know I'm too hopeful. I just want to believe.

[Valrifell]

I'm probably not right, but I'm hoping that the Trump base will based on all the consequences of them storming the Capitol realize their approach to politics was absurd all along.

I know I'm too hopeful. I just want to believe.

Teach me how to believe this.

[Valrifell]

Alternatively, the hope is that Trump will fade from the limelight to the point where GOP Senators can feel safe in burying him without major backlash from their own base.

I don't think that this is the kind of Senate business that will fade from the limelight.

Well, what I meant was they want the death threats to stop being so frequent.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

No. Maglevs aren’t trains

In a country our size, it's what's needed, and it's better for the environment.

America is absolutely massive, hence why walking to work is rare for anyone not living in the city here. It makes no sense to invest massive amounts of money into building rail infrastructure most people will never use, as people have cars and long distance travel is done by planes

[Phoenicaea]

^i heard americans got a delay in regards to trains. even italy, which was as backward few decades ago, prepared well and became, quite ashtoningly, cuttind edge.

obviously, italy will fall backward again soon, as it ever does, when she will sell out all, again, for paying debts from her precious, beloved, backward, bloody costly social structure.

secret was do not pretend to grab latest tech out of desert, patiently build yours without tricks instead.

it’s absurd to decently rail country if without petrol taxes and upkeeping commercial flights subsidies.

[The Holy Therns]

I'm probably not right, but I'm hoping that the Trump base will based on all the consequences of them storming the Capitol realize their approach to politics was absurd all along.

I know I'm too hopeful. I just want to believe.

Teach me how to believe this.

First, be Swedish.

[Valrifell]

In a country our size, it's what's needed, and it's better for the environment.

America is absolutely massive, hence why walking to work is rare for anyone not living in the city here. It makes no sense to invest massive amounts of money into building rail infrastructure most people will never use, as people have cars and long distance travel is done by planes

Cars are bad for the planet, though.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

^i heard americans got a delay in regards to trains. even italy, which was as backward few decades ago, prepared well and got cuttind edge.

obviously, italy will fall backward again, as it ever does, when she will sell out all again for paying debts of her precious, beloved, backward social structure.

the secret was do not pretend to grab the lastest tech out of desert, patiently build your own without tricks instead.

absurd to decently rail the country without petrol taxes and keeping commercial flights subsidies.

It makes sense to invest money into fixing the current rail infrastructure, but building a completely new system when barely anyone uses the existing one is absurd

[-Ra-]

To be honest I feel as though this impeachment effort may blow back against the Democrats. The impeachment trial is going to swallow up time in the Senate, which does not give Biden time to pass his agenda, confirm his picks, and get COVID relief out to bolster the economy. You are effectively dragging the Trump show into the Biden presidency, which I think few people actually want.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

America is absolutely massive, hence why walking to work is rare for anyone not living in the city here. It makes no sense to invest massive amounts of money into building rail infrastructure most people will never use, as people have cars and long distance travel is done by planes

Cars are bad for the planet, though.

Let’s say a new Maglev train system is built. How many people do you think are actually going to stop driving their cars to work and use it instead?

[Galloism]

America is absolutely massive, hence why walking to work is rare for anyone not living in the city here. It makes no sense to invest massive amounts of money into building rail infrastructure most people will never use, as people have cars and long distance travel is done by planes

Cars are bad for the planet, though.

<Electric cars intensify>

[Valrifell]

To be honest I feel as though this impeachment effort may blow back against the Democrats. The impeachment trial is going to swallow up time in the Senate, which does not give Biden time to pass his agenda, confirm his picks, and get COVID relief out to bolster the economy. You are effectively dragging the Trump show into the Biden presidency, which I think few people actually want.

Several Democrats have advocated for waiting 100 days to present the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate.

Also I have a sneaking suspicion that you're in the camp who would have said "impeachment will backfire" regardless.