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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:18 pm

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I think it should be obvious the cost of lockdowns outweigh the benefits especially if your going to do nothing to people pay their bills or keep their business afloat.

Possibly, although the lockdowns would only really end if the ones with the influence to end them are seeing more costs than benefits, that balance also including an unsuppressable level of public outcry.


Your already starting to see it.

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Postby Unojo » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:18 pm

[b]to assume it will end in 2021.[/b]
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:20 pm

Unojo wrote:[b]to assume it will end in 2021.[/b]

It will.

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Postby Reformed Zeon » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:29 pm

It netter look a whole lot better than this year

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:30 pm

Reformed Zeon wrote:It netter look a whole lot better than this year


It almost certainly will.

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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:34 pm

I think it's a big assumption to think the 2021 will be the post-covid era.
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Postby Geneviev » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:23 pm

I assume that 2021 will still involve covid. But there will be an end in sight, and that alone will make everything much more bearable. As for the actual post-covid era, I know that I've changed a lot. If everyone else was affected the same way, we'll probably see a lot more people worry about their family and maybe a stronger emphasis on washing hands and things like that.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:24 pm

It will probably get less during summer but it wont be away. Things will get a bit less pressured which is good. But it wont be over till 2022.

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:48 pm

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yep.


it will last the length it takes for the last anti-masker to realise he/she/they are in the wrong.

So, never?

That’s not at all how it works, once the sizable majority of people are vaccinated themselves, herd immunity does the rest of the job
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:49 pm

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Xmara wrote:That’s what I’m wondering. I’ve pretty much resigned myself to the fact that there’s a number of things I will never get to do now. I’ll never get to travel across country (and it actually be worth it). I’ll never get to see Europe except in pictures and maybe VR. I’ll never get to go to an amusement park again. If movies start going directly to streaming rather than theaters then I may never get to see a new movie again.

Really there’s no point in me ever leaving the house again except for work and that’s only because I won’t be able to work from home.

None of that is going to happen. It’s not in the economic interest of any country especially Europe to ban tourism henceforth. Amusement parks aren t going to go the way of the dodo.

Don’t listen to the doomsayers. It’s utter nonsense.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:16 am

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True, everybody thought that it was going to be worse than it actually was. Don't get me wrong Covid-19 was bad, but it could have been worse.

Yes it could have. This will end and no restrictions will be permanent. Eventually people will get tired of it.

Like how everyone eventually got tired of wearing seatbelts.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:19 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yes it could have. This will end and no restrictions will be permanent. Eventually people will get tired of it.

Like how everyone eventually got tired of wearing seatbelts.

More like got tired of the restrictions of Spanish flu.

And if you look at the recent spread in the states, its small gatherings that are leading to the current spike.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:44 am

Vetalia wrote:I think by and large things will be back to normal by mid-year either due to the end of the pandemic itself or people's flat out refusal to abide by measures any longer due to sheer fatigue...restrictions and mandates don't mean a whole lot if nobody obeys them, and if the cost exceeds the benefit they out of necessity have to be abandoned. Depending on the individual situation it might take more or less time; I would expect less populated areas to see a faster return to normal than more heavily populated areas and urban centers.

Some lasting changes will remain, such as an increased flexibility with working from home and the current options for take-out and curbside pickup for dining; I also think this will spell the end of indoor dining at fast-food restaurants once and for all in favor of a fully takeout setup, in turn reducing their real estate. Two invaluable benefits of this pandemic will be: 1.) it gives us a fully-updated understanding of the spread of a severe outbreak of a novel disease in the context of the current level of globalization and international travel and 2.) proof of the ability to rapidly develop and implement vaccines at an unprecedented rate. There's also of course the immense increase in understanding and treatment that will accompany this as well.

One thing I do hope stays around is the use of face masks when people are symptomatic with an infection and need to go out. That's a good habit that will hopefully reduce the impact of infectious diseases going forward...I also hope we see some changes such as federal paid sick leave to further enhance the effectivness of these measures. After all, the current disease burden of influenza isn't great even if it's nowhere near as significant as COVID has been.


Personally, I’m adopting their use (face masks) permanently for travel and during flu season.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:02 am

The business trip oriented transatlantic air routes are certainly going to be less busy in the future. Rural areas are also getting an infusion of life as people choose to move out of the cities.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:11 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Like how everyone eventually got tired of wearing seatbelts.

More like got tired of the restrictions of Spanish flu.

And if you look at the recent spread in the states, its small gatherings that are leading to the current spike.

https://www.henryford.com/blog/2020/10/ ... vid-spikes

And this will be no different.

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Postby Saint Yosx » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:17 am

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:The business trip oriented transatlantic air routes are certainly going to be less busy in the future. Rural areas are also getting an infusion of life as people choose to move out of the cities.



If anything I think the air travel; industry should skyrocket. Expect a lot of things to get super cheap.

As for being in the Covid Era I would say we are in a odd transition period. So on one hand Covid still exists and is still sort of a danger, but on the other hand companies and people just want to go out and be free. So I would say the Covid era has not ended although its in a weird kind of "Teenage stage" in between Covid Era and Post Covid era.
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Postby Saint Yosx » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:39 am

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I think polices seen once as "Socialist and radical" will be more common. It seems that after most recessions a democrat came into power. Great depression FDR got us out, 2008 Obama got us out, and hopefully 2021 Biden will get us out.

It is widely agreed that FDR extended the Great Depression by a few years. Obama? Yeah, slowest growing economy since the Great Depression isn't much of an achievement either. Let's hope Biden can do better, even though we're not really in much of a recession. Have you seen the stock market? Anyway, 2021 can hopefully not crash and burn as 2020 has. I hope we can keep avoiding wars, keep following smart *keyword "smart"* policies and pump out those vaccines, baby!



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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:44 am

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Well... with the vaccine in development and deployed, it will be better! Not "we are completely fine" levels, but in a relativistic manner, it's going to be better. As for the rest of the things - I am not the one to be blindly optimistic that the world ahead of us will be devoid of doom and gloom.

It will still be better in some aspects, or worse in some aspects, the world can't be completely good or bad. With that, I hope you will have a little bit of solace in everything you do. :hug: Sometimes, it's the littlest things in life that can make you a little happy, and you can pass that happiness around to others. ^^
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Postby Saint Yosx » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:52 am

Valentine Z wrote:Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows, everything that's wonderful is what I feel when we're together! ♪

Well... with the vaccine in development and deployed, it will be better! Not "we are completely fine" levels, but in a relativistic manner, it's going to be better. As for the rest of the things - I am not the one to be blindly optimistic that the world ahead of us will be devoid of doom and gloom.

It will still be better in some aspects, or worse in some aspects, the world can't be completely good or bad. With that, I hope you will have a little bit of solace in everything you do. :hug: Sometimes, it's the littlest things in life that can make you a little happy, and you can pass that happiness around to others. ^^



That reminds me, I always wondered, what if I was born before all this chaos, you know before 2001. So I was talking to someone born in the late 80's, and was a kid in the 90's and the 90's had their own set of problems. I think the reason why things seem so much worse is first because we never encountered it or two because of the spread of the internet and mass media. Something that would take a little bit to reach you can now be delivered in a instant (like now). So I think we can get though because we are all in this together!

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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:42 am

There won't be 2021.The closer to 24:00 on December 31, 2020, the flow of time will be slower.Ultimately, no one will be able to reach 2021.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:50 am

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:There won't be 2021.The closer to 24:00 on December 31, 2020, the flow of time will be slower.Ultimately, no one will be able to reach 2021.


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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:39 am

Lets be honest, probably insane in its own ways. I think 2020 was just the shape of things to come.
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Postby Trash fires » Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:59 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Lets be honest, probably insane in its own ways. I think 2020 was just the shape of things to come.

Or it was just the tutorial.
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Postby Saint Yosx » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:06 am

Trash fires wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Lets be honest, probably insane in its own ways. I think 2020 was just the shape of things to come.

Or it was just the tutorial.



Or maybe 2020 was us getting hit in the face by a ball, and 2021 will be when we catch the ball and slam dunk it to win the championship .... hopefully...

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