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2020 US General Election Thread XII: The End

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What's Your Opinion on The Election's Outcome

Mostly Good
94
21%
Good
84
19%
A Little of Both Good and Bad
125
28%
Meh
51
11%
Bad
46
10%
Very Bad
44
10%
 
Total votes : 444

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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:44 pm

Gravlen wrote:In Georgia, where Trump’s lead over Biden has shrunk to 3,486, only 18,936 ballots remain uncounted, according to Jordan Fuchs, the deputy secretary of state.


If my noggin mafs do be right, and trends continue as-is that should mean Biden wins it by 1k-2k votes.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:45 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Nah that’s my job. Oh wait nevermind I’m SECDEF

Yeah your SECDEF, Lumen is Transport, anyone want Homeland Security?


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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:45 pm

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:That approach will only cause the Democrats to lose voters. More moderates would switch to Republican or Independent, or any other third party. And any immigrants coming from socialist countries such as cuba and venezuela would never support any Democrat as they see America becoming the very place they flee. Meanwhile all the progressives are already in democrat party, so there's nothing to gain on that end.

Again, though: the vast majority of Americans support "socialist" policies like Medicare-for-All. This week alone, almost two thirds of Floridians voted to increase the minimum wage while at the same time a slim majority of them voted for Trump. If you cut through all the partisan bullshit, all the many layers of discourse, propaganda and ideology, Americans as a whole are fairly progressive when it comes to policy.

I suppose that is fair. Apologies, I am relatively uninformed on American support on government intervention in businesses.
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Postby Forsher » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:46 pm

Insaanistan wrote:Biden is down by just .9% in PA and .1% in GA!


These percentages aren't really helpful.

Georgia: 2,446,850 - 2,443,364 = 3486

which should mean that Biden's trailing in Pennsylvania by 3486*9 = 31,374, right? Well, no, because the percentages aren't standardised to the same base (e.g. 1000). Instead, PA looks like:

3,270,295 - 3,217,079 = 53,216

And even these figures aren't that useful without a comparison to how many votes there are expected to be left to count.

Quoting the percentages makes PA look closer than it is and doesn't say anything at all about how likely GA is likely to change.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:46 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Nah that’s my job. Oh wait nevermind I’m SECDEF

Yeah your SECDEF, Lumen is Transport, anyone want Homeland Security?


I'll take Labor if you're asking.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:46 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Yeah your SECDEF, Lumen is Transport, anyone want Homeland Security?


I'll take Labor if you're asking.

This is going to be fantastic cabinet

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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:47 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Yeah your SECDEF, Lumen is Transport, anyone want Homeland Security?


I'll take Labor if you're asking.

I was hoping you would.

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Postby Nagakawa » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:47 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Yeah your SECDEF, Lumen is Transport, anyone want Homeland Security?


I'll take Labor if you're asking.


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Postby The Commonwealth of Tennessee » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:47 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Trump may be flipping Arizona. It's going to be extremely close.

>Insert Ron Paul meme here
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:47 pm

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Postby Cedoria » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:47 pm

In other news, Australian Pundits who were gloating about how gloriously Trump had won re-election and how this totally proved the left is done for are now having to eat humble pie, to the extent they're capable of it.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/ ... by-reality
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Postby Kowani » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:47 pm

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:That approach will only cause the Democrats to lose voters. More moderates would switch to Republican or Independent, or any other third party. And any immigrants coming from socialist countries such as cuba and venezuela would never support any Democrat as they see America becoming the very place they flee. Meanwhile all the progressives are already in democrat party, so there's nothing to gain on that end.

Again, though: the vast majority of Americans support "socialist" policies like Medicare-for-All. This week alone, almost two thirds of Floridians voted to increase the minimum wage while at the same time a slim majority of them voted for Trump. If you cut through all the partisan bullshit, all the many layers of discourse, propaganda and ideology, Americans as a whole are fairly progressive when it comes to policy.

Oh yes about that
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:47 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
I'll take Labor if you're asking.

I was hoping you would.


Good, that puts me in charge of Social Security and increasing union presence.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:47 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Gravlen wrote:In Georgia, where Trump’s lead over Biden has shrunk to 3,486, only 18,936 ballots remain uncounted, according to Jordan Fuchs, the deputy secretary of state.

That's probubly not going to be enough to flip the state.

Clayton county still has 6% of the vote to count. Biden leads 85% to 14%.

There’s enough to flip but it’s going to be close
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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:47 pm

I expected a PA flip, but not a Georgia flip. I thought that Brian Kemp's shenanigans would hurt Biden too much. Happy to be wrong about that.
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Gravlen wrote:In Georgia, where Trump’s lead over Biden has shrunk to 3,486, only 18,936 ballots remain uncounted, according to Jordan Fuchs, the deputy secretary of state.


If my noggin mafs do be right, and trends continue as-is that should mean Biden wins it by 1k-2k votes.

Too close to call for my tastes. Anything can happen here.
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Postby Myrth » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yes and people are forgetting this.

The US the census for deciding the electoral votes of the states and other issues legislations are affected by the census, needs to counts legal immigrants, not illegal immigrant persons, who agrees and who disagrees? GMS.


Your precious constitution requires a counting of "all persons" - note persons, not citizens.
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Postby Nejii » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 pm

I’m just tired of a totally Democratic electoral system... Can we go back and try constitutional monarchies again? Not like today but the 18th century ones. Or absolute monarchies.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 pm

Cedoria wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Vote dumps 120 K votes entirely for former Vice President Joe Biden are impossible, not credible, assessed Hans von Spakovsky, manager of the Heritage Foundation’s Election Law Reform Initiative

A Few Excerpts:
Marlow asked about reports of drastic spikes in vote counts for Joe Biden in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

“If those reports are correct, I don’t understand it. The way you do counting is you simply count all of the ballots,” Von Spakovsky said. “You don’t divide. They’re not divided up between the candidates. So the [precinct] reporting that’s coming in ought to be reporting of the total vote count, regardless of who it’s for. So again, if it’s confirmed that there are these weird reports coming out of votes only for one candidate and not the other,
you’ve got to question, what exactly is going on?”

Andy Swan:
The only thing we did on Election Day was tell them how many votes they needed on Election Night.
https://twitter.com/AndySwan/status/132 ... ossible%2F

GMS: It really does sound very strange? 120,000 straight Biden votes reported? Andy Swan telling them how many votes they needed? Needed for what and why? Who agrees? Who disagrees?



The Heritage Foundation is not credible enough to report that the sky is blue, let alone report on electoral fraud allegations with any seriousness.

It is not credible enough to you and those who strongly agree with you, for those obvious reasons. Not to me and us who strongly agree with me. GMS.
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:I was hoping you would.


Good, that puts me in charge of Social Security and increasing union presence.

It was either you or WRA, hmm wonder what he could do, same with Zurk.

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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Trump may be flipping Arizona. It's going to be extremely close.

On what basis?

Pima County didn't vote by a margin that preludes him from taking the state. It's coming down to Maricopa.

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 pm

Nagakawa wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
I'll take Labor if you're asking.


I'd like to be in charge of HUD so I can embezzle federal funds to pimp up my office. Trust me, I'm a neurosurgeon, so I know what I'm doing.


How the fuck did I forget that Ben "the grain is stored in the pyramid" Carson is in the Trump administration?
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Postby Jedi Council » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That's probubly not going to be enough to flip the state.

Clayton county still has 6% of the vote to count. Biden leads 85% to 14%.

There’s enough to flip but it’s going to be close

When's the next dump of Georgia results expected?
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:49 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Nagakawa wrote:
I'd like to be in charge of HUD so I can embezzle federal funds to pimp up my office. Trust me, I'm a neurosurgeon, so I know what I'm doing.


How the fuck did I forget that Ben "the grain is stored in the pyramid" Carson is in the Trump administration?

You can take HUDSEC

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:49 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Good, that puts me in charge of Social Security and increasing union presence.

It was either you or WRA, hmm wonder what he could do, same with Zurk.

Can we make a NSG executive branch?

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