Is interracial/interethnic romance acceptable?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Depends on how religious they are and what religion. Lukewarm Christian and atheist? Aight. Buddhist and atheist? Sure.

Die hard Muslim and atheist? Noooooo

I think there would be a lot of conflict between those two, lol.

I dont. Unlike Christianity, Buddhism's teachings aren't so antithetical to atheists like myself and can be incorporated into our lives.

Also Buddhists don't tell people that they're going to hell for not agreeing with them.

[Suriyanakhon]

I think there would be a lot of conflict between those two, lol.

I dont. Unlike Christianity, Buddhism's teachings aren't so antithetical to atheists like myself and can be incorporated into our lives.

Also Buddhists don't tell people that they're going to hell for not agreeing with them.

I don't think that the Buddha's teachings are really compatible with the rational and progressive worldview that is common with Western atheists and he was fairly critical of the atheists of his day (the Carvakas). Some of the harshest critics of Buddhism are Western atheists who went in expecting it to be a mirror of their views and coming back disenchanted and angry when it wasn't.

The Pali Canon is filled with suttas where the Buddha tells people of different occupations and views that they will be reborn in hell for them and there's a lot of angry Burmese and Thai Buddhists eager to threaten hell on people they think slander Buddhism...

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I dont. Unlike Christianity, Buddhism's teachings aren't so antithetical to atheists like myself and can be incorporated into our lives.

Also Buddhists don't tell people that they're going to hell for not agreeing with them.

I don't think that the Buddha's teachings are really compatible with the rational and progressive worldview that is common with Western atheists and he was fairly critical of the atheists of his day (the Carvakas). Some of the harshest critics of Buddhism are Western atheists who went in expecting it to be a mirror of their views and coming back disenchanted and angry when it wasn't.

The Pali Canon is filled with suttas where the Buddha tells people of different occupations and views that they will be reborn in hell for them and there's a lot of angry Burmese and Thai Buddhists eager to threaten hell on people they think slander Buddhism...

Isn't buddhist hell only temporary though? It isnt like Christian hell that lasts forever

[Suriyanakhon]

I don't think that the Buddha's teachings are really compatible with the rational and progressive worldview that is common with Western atheists and he was fairly critical of the atheists of his day (the Carvakas). Some of the harshest critics of Buddhism are Western atheists who went in expecting it to be a mirror of their views and coming back disenchanted and angry when it wasn't.

The Pali Canon is filled with suttas where the Buddha tells people of different occupations and views that they will be reborn in hell for them and there's a lot of angry Burmese and Thai Buddhists eager to threaten hell on people they think slander Buddhism...

Isn't buddhist hell only temporary though? It isnt like Christian hell that lasts forever

Yes, but Buddhist hell still involves a ton of fire and ice and supernatural beings who punish the dead for their sins. It normally lasts somewhere from a million to a trillion years based on how you interpret the meaning of kalpas. The thought of being reborn in hell would be as scary for a Buddhist as it would a Christian.

[Alternamerica]

his mum.

Then who is Lebanese?

Me. Marhaba

[Transjlwanja]

Left to their own devices, most people will choose someone similar to them. The only way you can totally get rid of race is by forcing people to mix at gunpoint, & that would literally be the largest genocide in history.

Not true, although a common misunderstanding.

Most people are happy to try sex with someone from a different background, if only once, to see how they like it. (And for those who are wondering where that leaves Europeans: they are exotic to EVERY OTHER RACE - as I found out when I had a fling with someone from another continent, and was called "exotic".)

Most people are not happy being MARRIED to someone from a different background, if only because their own family and peers keep telling them that "you need to settle with someone like us".

The melting pot history of many a past and present nation suggests that these background noises can be safely ignored, but that's not even the point. The point is that sex / babymaking was not linked to marriage until mankind invented agriculture. In the large scheme of things, making babies with someone outside your (small) own group was the norm for 95% of mankind's history. The instinct is still there. Matrimony is a modern invention.

I was largely referring to marriage. I think people tend to be physically attracted to people that look similar to them as well. IIRC studies show that people often marry people w/ similar facial structure. This is not a hill to die on for me TBH, we can probably find studies supporting attraction any which way; my original point was that having racial preferences or not having racial preferences are both morally legitimate, & no one should be ashamed b/c of what races they're attracted to or not.

(Secular) history is, I think, more cyclical than linear. The diverse empires that seem superficially similar to modern Western countries (& it should be noted that they were rarely, if ever, as diverse as contemporary Brazil or the USA) were repeatedly fractured into small states, which could end up quite homogenous. Ethnicities merging into one is no more or less usual than single ethnicities splitting into multiple different ones. I'm not sure your account of the history of marriage is correct, & even if it is that isn't directly relevant to us since sex outside of marriage is forbidden by God at this time. Perhaps it was technically permitted before the events at Mt. Sinai though that matters little in the grand scheme of things. Cousin marriage, BTW, was the norm in much of the world until the recent past, & still is in many parts. The instinct to try novelty is deeply ingrained, but so is the instinct to trust & have loyalty towards the familiar. Even if matrimony were a "recent invention", it's clearly the superior way of organizing society.

Aryans aren't White, they're a group that used to be thought of as Indo-Europeans that migrated to northern India but thats false or since been debunked. It was common belief in the late 19th century until after WW2. Aryans originate in Iran but just happened to invade northern India at some point but otherwise aren't White to my knowledge. Aryans are lighter skinned in comparison to the native populations of Indian subcontinent.

As for Jews, some are White and some aren't. Basically all Jews used to be non-White, but because of the Roman empire taking over Judea, a lot of Jews happened to migrate into Europe and spent centuries there, to enough of an extent that a sizeable portion of Jews gradually came to acquire partial or majority European ancestry and hence could pass as White.

Only the Holocaust in Europe reversed this almost in full, via so brutalizing Europe's Jewish population that a big majority voluntarily left European countries permanently for Palestine and other developed countries such as the US or Canada during the post war period.

Bruh the levantines the jews descend from can pass for white. If white means "light skin and hair," then you just described millions of Arabs.

The royal family of Jordan: https://images.app.goo.gl/orjNaHV4mHfMFVB56

I think most people nowadays understand "white" as synonymous w/ "European". Race in the modern sense may be socially constructed, but that doesn't make it any less "real" than language or culture. Total genetic purity may be a fairytale, but so is long term total multicultural harmony in a large-scale, religiously neutral, "democratic" society. The genetic differences b/n, say, native Europeans & native Africans are indeed substantial whether you call them "racial" or not. Skin colour is literally the least important aspect of race; language, geographic origin, & self-identification all play a role. Perhaps I misunderstand Sai, but what I think he's arguing for European nations to preserve themselves in a similar way to Armenia, Israel, or Japan. This doesn't necessarily have a lot to do w/ skin colour, though it can have a lot to do w/ immigration, language, religion, or culture in general.

Imagine stanning for an Ideology that lost the only war it ever fought.

#just1945things

Most of the victors of WWII were profoundly racist in 1945. The (theoretically) least racist among them witnessed widespread ethnic cleansing when it collapsed a few decades later.

[Transjlwanja]

Religious & atheistic people simply shouldn't marry.

Depends on how religious they are and what religion. Lukewarm Christian and atheist? Aight. Buddhist and atheist? Sure.

Die hard Muslim and atheist? Noooooo

Depending on how "Lukewarm" they are, they're arguably no Christian at all. I don't really care who non-Christians marry, though I support the right of people of other religions to stick to their own kind.

[Albrenia]

I don't think that the Buddha's teachings are really compatible with the rational and progressive worldview that is common with Western atheists and he was fairly critical of the atheists of his day (the Carvakas). Some of the harshest critics of Buddhism are Western atheists who went in expecting it to be a mirror of their views and coming back disenchanted and angry when it wasn't.

The Pali Canon is filled with suttas where the Buddha tells people of different occupations and views that they will be reborn in hell for them and there's a lot of angry Burmese and Thai Buddhists eager to threaten hell on people they think slander Buddhism...

Isn't buddhist hell only temporary though? It isnt like Christian hell that lasts forever

I think there's one bit of buddhist hell which last forever. I think it's the one you go to for killing your parents?

Long time since I read about it though.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Depends on how religious they are and what religion. Lukewarm Christian and atheist? Aight. Buddhist and atheist? Sure.

Die hard Muslim and atheist? Noooooo

Depending on how "Lukewarm" they are, they're arguably no Christian at all. I don't really care who non-Christians marry, though I support the right of people of other religions to stick to their own kind.

So a majority of Americans then?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Not true, although a common misunderstanding.

Most people are happy to try sex with someone from a different background, if only once, to see how they like it. (And for those who are wondering where that leaves Europeans: they are exotic to EVERY OTHER RACE - as I found out when I had a fling with someone from another continent, and was called "exotic".)

Most people are not happy being MARRIED to someone from a different background, if only because their own family and peers keep telling them that "you need to settle with someone like us".

The melting pot history of many a past and present nation suggests that these background noises can be safely ignored, but that's not even the point. The point is that sex / babymaking was not linked to marriage until mankind invented agriculture. In the large scheme of things, making babies with someone outside your (small) own group was the norm for 95% of mankind's history. The instinct is still there. Matrimony is a modern invention.

I was largely referring to marriage. I think people tend to be physically attracted to people that look similar to them as well. IIRC studies show that people often marry people w/ similar facial structure. This is not a hill to die on for me TBH, we can probably find studies supporting attraction any which way; my original point was that having racial preferences or not having racial preferences are both morally legitimate, & no one should be ashamed b/c of what races they're attracted to or not.

(Secular) history is, I think, more cyclical than linear. The diverse empires that seem superficially similar to modern Western countries (& it should be noted that they were rarely, if ever, as diverse as contemporary Brazil or the USA) were repeatedly fractured into small states, which could end up quite homogenous. Ethnicities merging into one is no more or less usual than single ethnicities splitting into multiple different ones. I'm not sure your account of the history of marriage is correct, & even if it is that isn't directly relevant to us since sex outside of marriage is forbidden by God at this time. Perhaps it was technically permitted before the events at Mt. Sinai though that matters little in the grand scheme of things. Cousin marriage, BTW, was the norm in much of the world until the recent past, & still is in many parts. The instinct to try novelty is deeply ingrained, but so is the instinct to trust & have loyalty towards the familiar. Even if matrimony were a "recent invention", it's clearly the superior way of organizing society.

Bruh the levantines the jews descend from can pass for white. If white means "light skin and hair," then you just described millions of Arabs.

The royal family of Jordan: https://images.app.goo.gl/orjNaHV4mHfMFVB56

I think most people nowadays understand "white" as synonymous w/ "European". Race in the modern sense may be socially constructed, but that doesn't make it any less "real" than language or culture. Total genetic purity may be a fairytale, but so is long term total multicultural harmony in a large-scale, religiously neutral, "democratic" society. The genetic differences b/n, say, native Europeans & native Africans are indeed substantial whether you call them "racial" or not. Skin colour is literally the least important aspect of race; language, geographic origin, & self-identification all play a role. Perhaps I misunderstand Sai, but what I think he's arguing for European nations to preserve themselves in a similar way to Armenia, Israel, or Japan. This doesn't necessarily have a lot to do w/ skin colour, though it can have a lot to do w/ immigration, language, religion, or culture in general.

Sai actually wants to preserve whiteness so his "phenotype doesn't disappear."

Thing is his phenotype is shared by millions of non Europeans like the Pamiris.

[Transjlwanja]

Depending on how "Lukewarm" they are, they're arguably no Christian at all. I don't really care who non-Christians marry, though I support the right of people of other religions to stick to their own kind.

So a majority of Americans then?

Only God knows what percentage of people will be saved, though I'd classify most Americans as lukewarm Christians in terms of their beliefs & practices.

[Albrenia]

So a majority of Americans then?

Only God knows what percentage of people will be saved, though I'd classify most Americans as lukewarm Christians in terms of their beliefs & practices.

I'd agree, and be thankful for it.

[Katganistan]

Of course it's acceptable.

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

Is it acceptable to date those of another ethnicity or "race?

yes, there's no reason it wouldn't be.

Would your family accept you interracial dating?

probably

Is it acceptable in your country?

yes

[Echellia]

Yes.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Is it acceptable to date those of another ethnicity or "race?

yes, there's no reason it wouldn't be.

Would your family accept you interracial dating?

probably

Is it acceptable in your country?

yes

You're American right?

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

Is it acceptable to date those of another ethnicity or "race?

yes, there's no reason it wouldn't be.

Would your family accept you interracial dating?

probably

Is it acceptable in your country?

yes

You're American right?

yeah

[Borderlands of Rojava]

You're American right?

yeah

Yeah I was just wondering since alot of times people here say "I support interracial marriage. In my home country of Myanmar (or some other southeast Asian nation where race isn't the same as here) people of X race marry Y race all the time."

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

yeah

Yeah I was just wondering since alot of times people here say "I support interracial marriage. In my home country of Myanmar (or some other southeast Asian nation where race isn't the same as here) people of X race marry Y race all the time."

what's different about race there?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Yeah I was just wondering since alot of times people here say "I support interracial marriage. In my home country of Myanmar (or some other southeast Asian nation where race isn't the same as here) people of X race marry Y race all the time."

what's different about race there?

Myanmar considers certain umbrella categories of ethnic groups to be separate "races." Heres an article for more detail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_e ... in_Myanmar

[New Acardia]

I am White and my Wife is Asian as for my family most don’t care and as for my racist brother (he is a dip $h!+) So I don’t care what he thinks

[Arcturus Novus]

Respectfully, Rojava, what the fuck is wrong with your mother? Date whoever you want as long as you make each other happy and you're both of legal age to do so.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Respectfully, Rojava, what the fuck is wrong with your mother? Date whoever you want as long as you make each other happy and you're both of legal age to do so.

My mom won't let go of her prejudices. It's unfortunate

[San Lumen]

Respectfully, Rojava, what the fuck is wrong with your mother? Date whoever you want as long as you make each other happy and you're both of legal age to do so.

My mom won't let go of her prejudices. It's unfortunate

Quite. Its a shame people still see a race as an issue. A friend of mine's mom openly said wouldn't like him dating someone non white.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

My mom won't let go of her prejudices. It's unfortunate

Quite. Its a shame people still see a race as an issue. A friend of mine's mom openly said wouldn't like him dating someone non white.

That's sad