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Who Do You Support in the 2020 General Election?

Donald Trump (R)
147
29%
Joe Biden (D)
276
54%
Howie Hawkins (G)
59
12%
Jo Jorgensen (L)
27
5%
 
Total votes : 509

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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:35 am

Trump is reportedly taking Down Names as Republicans Begin Jumping Ship. He's also reportedly contemplating retribution should he lose and his party blame him for the lost. This part in poarticular stands out:

Among Republican operatives, there has been an expectation that Trump’s polling deficit with Biden would close as the election neared. That tightening has not happened as quickly as they’d hoped, and among the explanations for it are the president’s combustible debate performance, his personal infection with a virus he has downplayed, and the fact that he’s been outspent on the airwaves.

There’s also a growing consensus among the GOP consulting class that Trump has lost some of the political instincts that made him both unorthodox and effective in 2016. Back then, Trump closed the campaign by largely keeping to script, doing rallies, and posting only mundane tweets. This go-around, he’s embraced wilder conspiracies—such as the Osama bin Laden raid being staged—and put up more Facebook ads attacking Hillary Clinton than going after Biden on trade.


It seems the Trump Campaign is struggling to adapt a 2020 strategy and is instead mimicking their 2016 one, partly due to Trump going off script and attacking his opponents he perceives should be "locked up". Yeah, this ship is sinking and racing to the port in hopes of a miracle revival. That is probably not going to happen this time.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:35 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Literally anyone's an easy target. It's what he's good at.


Except he's not. He couldn't even get that many good punches in on Biden at the debate, so I can't imagine if he faced the literal embodiment of the Chad meme onstage. Trump did well in 2016 cause people enjoyed seeing the Bush family and Clintons get burned. In 2020, Trump stands onstage as a sad circus clown that most Americans don't love nor respect.


Biden being a less easy target, I don't see someone who'd basically be Trump lite being a more successful option.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:37 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Except he's not. He couldn't even get that many good punches in on Biden at the debate, so I can't imagine if he faced the literal embodiment of the Chad meme onstage. Trump did well in 2016 cause people enjoyed seeing the Bush family and Clintons get burned. In 2020, Trump stands onstage as a sad circus clown that most Americans don't love nor respect.


Biden being a less easy target, I don't see someone who'd basically be Trump lite being a more successful option.


The guy was losing his cool with Savanah guthery for calling him someones crazy uncle. I think it would be beautiful if Trump had to debate someone who just spent the entire night making a mockery of his whole existence in front of millions
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:41 am

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/paul ... n-11713025

After complimenting Trump on his smile at Miami town hall, Paulette Dale plans to vote for Biden

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:44 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/paulette-dale-tells-trump-hes-handsome-but-shes-voting-biden-11713025

After complimenting Trump on his smile at Miami town hall, Paulette Dale plans to vote for Biden


Oof. Thats the best backhand.
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Postby Gravlen » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:47 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Literally anyone's an easy target. It's what he's good at.


Except he's not. He couldn't even get that many good punches in on Biden at the debate, so I can't imagine if he faced the literal embodiment of the Chad meme onstage. Trump did well in 2016 cause people enjoyed seeing the Bush family and Clintons get burned. In 2020, Trump stands onstage as a sad circus clown that most Americans don't love nor respect.

He's also reusing nicknames. How many "Liddle" [Name] is he up to now?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:48 am

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/politics ... index.html

Trump's rally in Muskegon was as racist and authoritarian as one could expect. He didn't even hold back and fear mongered about Syrian refugees, "low income housing," Somalians and Gretchen Whitmer.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:49 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/politics/donald-trump-women-gretchen-whitmer/index.html

Trump's rally in Muskegon was as racist and authoritarian as one could expect. He didn't even hold back and fear mongered about Syrian refugees, "low income housing," Somalians and Gretchen Whitmer.


But he’s not a racist they say

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:51 am

San Lumen wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/politics/donald-trump-women-gretchen-whitmer/index.html

Trump's rally in Muskegon was as racist and authoritarian as one could expect. He didn't even hold back and fear mongered about Syrian refugees, "low income housing," Somalians and Gretchen Whitmer.


But he’s not a racist they say


This is why I roll my eyes when trumpsters complain about being called racist. I mean many of them must be a bigot cause they put the fucking shoe on.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:51 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Biden being a less easy target, I don't see someone who'd basically be Trump lite being a more successful option.


The guy was losing his cool with Savanah guthery for calling him someones crazy uncle. I think it would be beautiful if Trump had to debate someone who just spent the entire night making a mockery of his whole existence in front of millions


I think it's better to just let him self-destruct on his own.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:52 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The guy was losing his cool with Savanah guthery for calling him someones crazy uncle. I think it would be beautiful if Trump had to debate someone who just spent the entire night making a mockery of his whole existence in front of millions


I think it's better to just let him self-destruct on his own.


Eh, agree to disagree
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:54 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
But he’s not a racist they say


This is why I roll my eyes when trumpsters complain about being called racist. I mean many of them must be a bigot cause they put the fucking shoe on.


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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:55 am

Vassenor wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
This is why I roll my eyes when trumpsters complain about being called racist. I mean many of them must be a bigot cause they put the fucking shoe on.


"No, we don't think you're racist. You just don't see racism as a dealbreaker like everyone else."


Theyre not racist. They just don't give enough of a damn about people of color to not harm them for their own self gain.

As if that makes me feel better. "Oh we don't hate you for your skintone. We just put our own desire for a feeling of safety ahead of your actual safety and security."
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Postby Shrillland » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:15 am

For the first time ever, El Nuevo Dia down in San Juan has endorsed a presidential candidate despite PR being unable to elect the president. Guess which one.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:17 am

Shrillland wrote:For the first time ever, El Nuevo Dia down in San Juan has endorsed a presidential candidate despite PR being unable to elect the president. Guess which one.


Let me guess Tru-

Oh yes Biden of course.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:20 am

Zurkerx wrote:Trump is reportedly taking Down Names as Republicans Begin Jumping Ship. He's also reportedly contemplating retribution should he lose and his party blame him for the lost. This part in poarticular stands out:

Among Republican operatives, there has been an expectation that Trump’s polling deficit with Biden would close as the election neared. That tightening has not happened as quickly as they’d hoped, and among the explanations for it are the president’s combustible debate performance, his personal infection with a virus he has downplayed, and the fact that he’s been outspent on the airwaves.

There’s also a growing consensus among the GOP consulting class that Trump has lost some of the political instincts that made him both unorthodox and effective in 2016. Back then, Trump closed the campaign by largely keeping to script, doing rallies, and posting only mundane tweets. This go-around, he’s embraced wilder conspiracies—such as the Osama bin Laden raid being staged—and put up more Facebook ads attacking Hillary Clinton than going after Biden on trade.


It seems the Trump Campaign is struggling to adapt a 2020 strategy and is instead mimicking their 2016 one, partly due to Trump going off script and attacking his opponents he perceives should be "locked up". Yeah, this ship is sinking and racing to the port in hopes of a miracle revival. That is probably not going to happen this time.

If he loses what kind of retribution would he be able to dish out? All focus will be on the transition.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:35 am

Doesn't surprise me. I work with a lot of Puerto Ricans and I've never met one that supports Trump. They're not as conservative as the Cubans, and they know Trump doesn't give a fuck about Puerto Rico.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:50 am

San Lumen wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Trump is reportedly taking Down Names as Republicans Begin Jumping Ship. He's also reportedly contemplating retribution should he lose and his party blame him for the lost. This part in poarticular stands out:

Among Republican operatives, there has been an expectation that Trump’s polling deficit with Biden would close as the election neared. That tightening has not happened as quickly as they’d hoped, and among the explanations for it are the president’s combustible debate performance, his personal infection with a virus he has downplayed, and the fact that he’s been outspent on the airwaves.

There’s also a growing consensus among the GOP consulting class that Trump has lost some of the political instincts that made him both unorthodox and effective in 2016. Back then, Trump closed the campaign by largely keeping to script, doing rallies, and posting only mundane tweets. This go-around, he’s embraced wilder conspiracies—such as the Osama bin Laden raid being staged—and put up more Facebook ads attacking Hillary Clinton than going after Biden on trade.


It seems the Trump Campaign is struggling to adapt a 2020 strategy and is instead mimicking their 2016 one, partly due to Trump going off script and attacking his opponents he perceives should be "locked up". Yeah, this ship is sinking and racing to the port in hopes of a miracle revival. That is probably not going to happen this time.

If he loses what kind of retribution would he be able to dish out? All focus will be on the transition.

Looks at giant, violent and angry Trump base
Yeah. I wonder what he could do.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:53 am

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:If he loses what kind of retribution would he be able to dish out? All focus will be on the transition.

Looks at giant, violent and angry Trump base
Yeah. I wonder what he could do.


Riot, loot, get tear-gassed, then go home and mumble about "those damn liberals" in that order.

Any Red Hat that genuinely thinks they can stage some kind of rebellion or something is going to find themselves on the wrong end of several dozen M4s before they can shout "MAGA!"
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:58 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kowani wrote:Looks at giant, violent and angry Trump base
Yeah. I wonder what he could do.


Riot, loot, get tear-gassed, then go home and mumble about "those damn liberals" in that order.

Any Red Hat that genuinely thinks they can stage some kind of rebellion or something is going to find themselves on the wrong end of several dozen M4s before they can shout "MAGA!"

No need for a rebellion.
Trump thinks like a very shitty mob boss, remember?
A drive-by shooting, a bomb at a house…
He won’t incite rebellion. Just violence.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:13 am

Kowani wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Riot, loot, get tear-gassed, then go home and mumble about "those damn liberals" in that order.

Any Red Hat that genuinely thinks they can stage some kind of rebellion or something is going to find themselves on the wrong end of several dozen M4s before they can shout "MAGA!"

No need for a rebellion.
Trump thinks like a very shitty mob boss, remember?
A drive-by shooting, a bomb at a house…
He won’t incite rebellion. Just violence.


More Right-wing terrorism? Lovely.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:15 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kowani wrote:No need for a rebellion.
Trump thinks like a very shitty mob boss, remember?
A drive-by shooting, a bomb at a house…
He won’t incite rebellion. Just violence.


More Right-wing terrorism? Lovely.

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Postby Autumn Wind » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:26 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kowani wrote:Looks at giant, violent and angry Trump base
Yeah. I wonder what he could do.


Riot, loot, get tear-gassed, then go home and mumble about "those damn liberals" in that order.

Any Red Hat that genuinely thinks they can stage some kind of rebellion or something is going to find themselves on the wrong end of several dozen M4s before they can shout "MAGA!"


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Postby Juristonia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:33 am

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Except he's not. He couldn't even get that many good punches in on Biden at the debate, so I can't imagine if he faced the literal embodiment of the Chad meme onstage. Trump did well in 2016 cause people enjoyed seeing the Bush family and Clintons get burned. In 2020, Trump stands onstage as a sad circus clown that most Americans don't love nor respect.

He's also reusing nicknames. How many "Liddle" [Name] is he up to now?

Biden should just call him Littlefinger once and then never acknowledge it again.
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