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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:45 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
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Not an excuse to get all mad either.

Nothing we say here actually matters.

The excuse of someone with no argument.


My argument being that our government has lost confidence in both the left and the right to the point where political violence is happening. Which I think is evident, and in my opinion is only going to get worse in the future.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:05 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:The excuse of someone with no argument.


My argument being that our government has lost confidence in both the left and the right to the point where political violence is happening. Which I think is evident, and in my opinion is only going to get worse in the future.

As long as we commit ourselves to an intellectually dishonest 'bothsides' narrative instead of focus in real threats, yeah, it will get worse and in fact has. See, the Capitol Building on the 6th.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:08 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
My argument being that our government has lost confidence in both the left and the right to the point where political violence is happening. Which I think is evident, and in my opinion is only going to get worse in the future.

As long as we commit ourselves to an intellectually dishonest 'bothsides' narrative instead of focus in real threats, yeah, it will get worse and in fact has. See, the Capitol Building on the 6th.


I'm speaking more to the failures of the government to keep the trust of the people, moreso than any movement in particular.

I'm well aware of white supremacist violence.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 am

How is the share price of Trump's businesses holding up?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:35 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:How is the share price of Trump's businesses holding up?

Don't believe it's a publicly traded company.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:38 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:How is the share price of Trump's businesses holding up?

Don't believe it's a publicly traded company.


Ah, I was wondering whether it was or not. So much easier to hide things without pesky shareholders poking their noses in.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:38 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:How is the share price of Trump's businesses holding up?

Don't believe it's a publicly traded company.


Obviously. That would require him to publish accurate figures.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:10 pm


Obviously the solution is to put the trumpeteers who were shocked by the attack on the capitol in a position where they're forced to give up their guy or devise methods to minimize, ignore, or even justify the violence. They've already got support on that front since republican congressmen who oppose impeachment are sharpening their rhetorical knives which is. The goal should be to get the right to circle the wagons prevent any kind of fracturing that could hurt support for protests, rallies, and outright acts of terror.
I had serious concerns when Biden was peddling unity that 2021 wouldn't live up to to the chaos and disorder of it's predecessor but I think we're on the right track.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:43 pm

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Postby Nakena » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:46 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Trumps ex-personal doctor dies.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/1 ... ies-459293


I remember that dude. Turned out his medical report was written by Trump himself.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:53 pm

Des-Bal wrote:

Obviously the solution is to put the trumpeteers who were shocked by the attack on the capitol in a position where they're forced to give up their guy or devise methods to minimize, ignore, or even justify the violence. They've already got support on that front since republican congressmen who oppose impeachment are sharpening their rhetorical knives which is. The goal should be to get the right to circle the wagons prevent any kind of fracturing that could hurt support for protests, rallies, and outright acts of terror.
I had serious concerns when Biden was peddling unity that 2021 wouldn't live up to to the chaos and disorder of it's predecessor but I think we're on the right track.


nah. They don’t need to do much. The friends and family of the true ‘murkins are turning them in. Just read an article about some gal on the Bumble dating site. She switched her profile to conservative and has been getting comments from guys who bragged about being in DC. She forwards their notes to the FBI. :rofl:
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:57 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:Obviously the solution is to put the trumpeteers who were shocked by the attack on the capitol in a position where they're forced to give up their guy or devise methods to minimize, ignore, or even justify the violence. They've already got support on that front since republican congressmen who oppose impeachment are sharpening their rhetorical knives which is. The goal should be to get the right to circle the wagons prevent any kind of fracturing that could hurt support for protests, rallies, and outright acts of terror.
I had serious concerns when Biden was peddling unity that 2021 wouldn't live up to to the chaos and disorder of it's predecessor but I think we're on the right track.


nah. They don’t need to do much. The friends and family of the true ‘murkins are turning them in. Just read an article about some gal on the Bumble dating site. She switched her profile to conservative and has been getting comments from guys who bragged about being in DC. She forwards their notes to the FBI. :rofl:

There's nothing 'the left' can do for these folks. "We're" tainted, nothing we say is true or matters. It's going to take their own turning to them, refuting the conspiracy theories and turning away from the hysteria.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:07 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
nah. They don’t need to do much. The friends and family of the true ‘murkins are turning them in. Just read an article about some gal on the Bumble dating site. She switched her profile to conservative and has been getting comments from guys who bragged about being in DC. She forwards their notes to the FBI. :rofl:

There's nothing 'the left' can do for these folks. "We're" tainted, nothing we say is true or matters. It's going to take their own turning to them, refuting the conspiracy theories and turning away from the hysteria.

Doesn't work. Fox tried, people dumped Fox and moved to OANN and Newsmax. Every source that contradicts their version of reality is by definition fake. If it used to be "non-fake", it means "they" got to them.

As I (and many others) said before - it is a religion.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:19 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:There's nothing 'the left' can do for these folks. "We're" tainted, nothing we say is true or matters. It's going to take their own turning to them, refuting the conspiracy theories and turning away from the hysteria.

Doesn't work. Fox tried, people dumped Fox and moved to OANN and Newsmax. Every source that contradicts their version of reality is by definition fake. If it used to be "non-fake", it means "they" got to them.

As I (and many others) said before - it is a religion.

The rabbit hole is particularly deep. It's more a matter of trying to keep anyone else from falling in, really.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:51 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
My argument being that our government has lost confidence in both the left and the right to the point where political violence is happening. Which I think is evident, and in my opinion is only going to get worse in the future.

As long as we commit ourselves to an intellectually dishonest 'bothsides' narrative instead of focus in real threats, yeah, it will get worse and in fact has. See, the Capitol Building on the 6th.


Trump: The election was rigged. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this fraud.

Bernie Sanders: The election wasn't rigged.

That one guy: Oh man, how can we stop the horrible conflict between both sides?

Lmfao.
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Postby Page » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:55 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


Trump: The election was rigged. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this fraud.

Bernie Sanders: The election wasn't rigged.

That one guy: Oh man, how can we stop the horrible conflict between both sides?

Lmfao.


The far-right: Let's do a genocide

The far-left: Let's make sure everyone's needs are met

The centrists: I can't tell the two of you apart!
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:57 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


Trump: The election was rigged. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this fraud.

Bernie Sanders: The election wasn't rigged.

That one guy: Oh man, how can we stop the horrible conflict between both sides?

Lmfao.

Bothsides at work.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:59 am

Page wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Trump: The election was rigged. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this fraud.

Bernie Sanders: The election wasn't rigged.

That one guy: Oh man, how can we stop the horrible conflict between both sides?

Lmfao.


The far-right: Let's do a genocide

The far-left: Let's make sure everyone's needs are met

The centrists: I can't tell the two of you apart!


And there's

Nazis: Kill the spooks, burn the Jews

Socialists: Racism isn't okay.

Radical centrists: Both sides are really acting out of pocket.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:33 am

When Hillary lost, we knitted pink caps, marched peacefully and donated to Planned Parenthood.

When Trump lost, they built a gallows, stormed the Capitol and murdered a policeman.

No, both parties are not the same.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:28 am

Vassenor wrote:When Hillary lost, we knitted pink caps, marched peacefully and donated to Planned Parenthood.

When Trump lost, they built a gallows, stormed the Capitol and murdered a policeman.

No, both parties are not the same.

I suppose we are all supposed to forget the part where they burned America and murdered (and attempted to murder) underage teenagers on more than one occasion as part of their "mostly peaceful" protests.

No the parties aren't the same, and we should recognize the right has massively raised the stakes in its actions in DC, but don't dishonestly scream "we didn't do anything".
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:36 am

Galloism wrote:
Vassenor wrote:When Hillary lost, we knitted pink caps, marched peacefully and donated to Planned Parenthood.

When Trump lost, they built a gallows, stormed the Capitol and murdered a policeman.

No, both parties are not the same.

I suppose we are all supposed to forget the part where they burned America and murdered (and attempted to murder) underage teenagers on more than one occasion as part of their "mostly peaceful" protests.

No the parties aren't the same, and we should recognize the right has massively raised the stakes in its actions in DC, but don't dishonestly scream "we didn't do nuffin'".


Where was the violence, looting and murder at the 2017 inauguration protests? You know, what was actually being talked about there.

In short, put those goalposts back and accept that your BUT BOTH SIDES narrative is bunk.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:37 am

Galloism wrote:
Vassenor wrote:When Hillary lost, we knitted pink caps, marched peacefully and donated to Planned Parenthood.

When Trump lost, they built a gallows, stormed the Capitol and murdered a policeman.

No, both parties are not the same.

I suppose we are all supposed to forget the part where they burned America and murdered (and attempted to murder) underage teenagers on more than one occasion as part of their "mostly peaceful" protests.

No the parties aren't the same, and we should recognize the right has massively raised the stakes in its actions in DC, but don't dishonestly scream "we didn't do nuffin'".

Did you just invoke the 'didn't do nuffin'? I mean...seriously? Were you trying to find ways to make this sound more tone deaf? Were you lonely? Seriously, dude...do you need a hug or something? You're just going to straight up use the rhetoric of the racists now? Jesus christ, man.

Good night.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:43 am

Vassenor wrote:
Galloism wrote:I suppose we are all supposed to forget the part where they burned America and murdered (and attempted to murder) underage teenagers on more than one occasion as part of their "mostly peaceful" protests.

No the parties aren't the same, and we should recognize the right has massively raised the stakes in its actions in DC, but don't dishonestly scream "we didn't do nuffin'".


Where was the violence, looting and murder at the 2017 inauguration protests? You know, what was actually being talked about there.

In short, put those goalposts back and accept that your BUT BOTH SIDES narrative is bunk.

Rather you gloss over the facts you don't like.

A casual google search came up with this.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics ... index.html

Six police officers were injured and 217 protesters arrested Friday after a morning of peaceful protests and coordinated disruptions of Donald Trump’s inauguration ceremony gave way to ugly street clashes in downtown Washington.

At least two DC police officers and one other person were taken to the hospital after run-ins with protesters, DC Fire Spokesman Vito Maggiolo told CNN. Acting DC Police Chief Peter Newsham said the officers’ injuries were considered minor and not life threatening.

Bursts of chaos erupted on 12th and K streets as black-clad “antifascist” protesters smashed storefronts and bus stops, hammered out the windows of a limousine and eventually launched rocks at a phalanx of police lined up in an eastbound crosswalk. Officers responded by launching smoke and flash-bang devices, which could be heard from blocks away, into the street to disperse the crowds.

“Pepper spray and other control devices were used to control the criminal actors and protect persons and property,” police said.

Anti-Trump protests also broke out Friday in US cities, including New York, Seattle, Dallas, Chicago and Portland, Oregon. Authorities in Seattle say one person was in critical condition at a hospital with a gunshot wound. Demonstrations also took place overseas in Hong Kong, Berlin and London.

In Washington, Newsham told CNN the several hundred demonstrators who actively confronted police were vastly outnumbered by the thousands of nonviolent protesters who swarmed the nation’s capital for Inauguration Day and Saturday’s Women’s March on Washington.

“We have been pointing out all along that this is a very isolated incident, and by and large, everything is going peacefully and a lot of folks have come to the city to enjoy this historic day, not only the Capitol but walking all around the city,” he said.

But many protesters, including permitted marchers, accused security personnel of denying them access to their planned routes.

Ashley Link, 37, made her way to Franklin Square after an ANSWER Coalition protest slated for the Navy Memorial on Pennsylvania Avenue, about a mile away, was effectively blocked by what many there described as onerous security restrictions. She expressed concern that isolated clashes with police would overshadow other messages on display, but sympathized with the rowdier elements in the street.

“I’m all about peaceful protesting, practicing nonviolence, but at the same time, I understand why people are so frustrated,” she said. “They are so upset about so many things in our country right now that to make a poster? There’s not a poster big enough to cover all the things that people are frustrated about.”

Hours earlier, Lysander Reid-Powell, a 20-year-old student from New Mexico, joined in a Black Lives Matter-led blockade of an entrance onto the National Mall.

“I think Donald Trump is a fascist, and it’s very easy for people, especially people who are in pain, to slip into fascism,” he said. “It’s easy for people to feel like the individual has no power and that you’re just one small little ant in the big hill, so ultimately all that matters is popular resistance.”


https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics ... index.html

Again, not near the same level, but we see a pattern here of glossing things over when it suits your narrative
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:45 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Galloism wrote:I suppose we are all supposed to forget the part where they burned America and murdered (and attempted to murder) underage teenagers on more than one occasion as part of their "mostly peaceful" protests.

No the parties aren't the same, and we should recognize the right has massively raised the stakes in its actions in DC, but don't dishonestly scream "we didn't do nuffin'".

Did you just invoke the 'didn't do nuffin'? I mean...seriously? Were you trying to find ways to make this sound more tone deaf? Were you lonely? Seriously, dude...do you need a hug or something? You're just going to straight up use the rhetoric of the racists now? Jesus christ, man.

Good night.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:46 am

Galloism wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Did you just invoke the 'didn't do nuffin'? I mean...seriously? Were you trying to find ways to make this sound more tone deaf? Were you lonely? Seriously, dude...do you need a hug or something? You're just going to straight up use the rhetoric of the racists now? Jesus christ, man.

Good night.

What?

You are not this unaware.

Or maybe you are.

Honestly, the result is all the same.

Play your role.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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