MAGAThread XX: A Journal of the Plague Year

[Cannot think of a name]

How is the share price of Trump's businesses holding up?

Don't believe it's a publicly traded company.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

How is the share price of Trump's businesses holding up?

Don't believe it's a publicly traded company.

Ah, I was wondering whether it was or not. So much easier to hide things without pesky shareholders poking their noses in.

[The Alma Mater]

How is the share price of Trump's businesses holding up?

Don't believe it's a publicly traded company.

Obviously. That would require him to publish accurate figures.

[Des-Bal]

As long as we commit ourselves to an intellectually dishonest 'bothsides' narrative instead of focus in real threats, yeah, it will get worse and in fact has. See, the Capitol Building on the 6th.

Obviously the solution is to put the trumpeteers who were shocked by the attack on the capitol in a position where they're forced to give up their guy or devise methods to minimize, ignore, or even justify the violence. They've already got support on that front since republican congressmen who oppose impeachment are sharpening their rhetorical knives which is. The goal should be to get the right to circle the wagons prevent any kind of fracturing that could hurt support for protests, rallies, and outright acts of terror.
I had serious concerns when Biden was peddling unity that 2021 wouldn't live up to to the chaos and disorder of it's predecessor but I think we're on the right track.

[The Black Forrest]

Trumps ex-personal doctor dies.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/1 ... ies-459293

[Nakena]

Trumps ex-personal doctor dies.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/1 ... ies-459293

I remember that dude. Turned out his medical report was written by Trump himself.

[The Black Forrest]

As long as we commit ourselves to an intellectually dishonest 'bothsides' narrative instead of focus in real threats, yeah, it will get worse and in fact has. See, the Capitol Building on the 6th.

Obviously the solution is to put the trumpeteers who were shocked by the attack on the capitol in a position where they're forced to give up their guy or devise methods to minimize, ignore, or even justify the violence. They've already got support on that front since republican congressmen who oppose impeachment are sharpening their rhetorical knives which is. The goal should be to get the right to circle the wagons prevent any kind of fracturing that could hurt support for protests, rallies, and outright acts of terror.
I had serious concerns when Biden was peddling unity that 2021 wouldn't live up to to the chaos and disorder of it's predecessor but I think we're on the right track.

nah. They don’t need to do much. The friends and family of the true ‘murkins are turning them in. Just read an article about some gal on the Bumble dating site. She switched her profile to conservative and has been getting comments from guys who bragged about being in DC. She forwards their notes to the FBI.

[Cannot think of a name]

Obviously the solution is to put the trumpeteers who were shocked by the attack on the capitol in a position where they're forced to give up their guy or devise methods to minimize, ignore, or even justify the violence. They've already got support on that front since republican congressmen who oppose impeachment are sharpening their rhetorical knives which is. The goal should be to get the right to circle the wagons prevent any kind of fracturing that could hurt support for protests, rallies, and outright acts of terror.
I had serious concerns when Biden was peddling unity that 2021 wouldn't live up to to the chaos and disorder of it's predecessor but I think we're on the right track.

nah. They don’t need to do much. The friends and family of the true ‘murkins are turning them in. Just read an article about some gal on the Bumble dating site. She switched her profile to conservative and has been getting comments from guys who bragged about being in DC. She forwards their notes to the FBI.

There's nothing 'the left' can do for these folks. "We're" tainted, nothing we say is true or matters. It's going to take their own turning to them, refuting the conspiracy theories and turning away from the hysteria.

[The Alma Mater]

nah. They don’t need to do much. The friends and family of the true ‘murkins are turning them in. Just read an article about some gal on the Bumble dating site. She switched her profile to conservative and has been getting comments from guys who bragged about being in DC. She forwards their notes to the FBI.

There's nothing 'the left' can do for these folks. "We're" tainted, nothing we say is true or matters. It's going to take their own turning to them, refuting the conspiracy theories and turning away from the hysteria.

Doesn't work. Fox tried, people dumped Fox and moved to OANN and Newsmax. Every source that contradicts their version of reality is by definition fake. If it used to be "non-fake", it means "they" got to them.

As I (and many others) said before - it is a religion.

[Cannot think of a name]

There's nothing 'the left' can do for these folks. "We're" tainted, nothing we say is true or matters. It's going to take their own turning to them, refuting the conspiracy theories and turning away from the hysteria.

Doesn't work. Fox tried, people dumped Fox and moved to OANN and Newsmax. Every source that contradicts their version of reality is by definition fake. If it used to be "non-fake", it means "they" got to them.

As I (and many others) said before - it is a religion.

The rabbit hole is particularly deep. It's more a matter of trying to keep anyone else from falling in, really.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

My argument being that our government has lost confidence in both the left and the right to the point where political violence is happening. Which I think is evident, and in my opinion is only going to get worse in the future.

As long as we commit ourselves to an intellectually dishonest 'bothsides' narrative instead of focus in real threats, yeah, it will get worse and in fact has. See, the Capitol Building on the 6th.

Trump: The election was rigged. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this fraud.

Bernie Sanders: The election wasn't rigged.

That one guy: Oh man, how can we stop the horrible conflict between both sides?

Lmfao.

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As long as we commit ourselves to an intellectually dishonest 'bothsides' narrative instead of focus in real threats, yeah, it will get worse and in fact has. See, the Capitol Building on the 6th.

Trump: The election was rigged. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this fraud.

Bernie Sanders: The election wasn't rigged.

That one guy: Oh man, how can we stop the horrible conflict between both sides?

Lmfao.

The far-right: Let's do a genocide

The far-left: Let's make sure everyone's needs are met

The centrists: I can't tell the two of you apart!

[Cannot think of a name]

As long as we commit ourselves to an intellectually dishonest 'bothsides' narrative instead of focus in real threats, yeah, it will get worse and in fact has. See, the Capitol Building on the 6th.

Trump: The election was rigged. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this fraud.

Bernie Sanders: The election wasn't rigged.

That one guy: Oh man, how can we stop the horrible conflict between both sides?

Lmfao.

Bothsides at work.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Trump: The election was rigged. We need to do whatever it takes to stop this fraud.

Bernie Sanders: The election wasn't rigged.

That one guy: Oh man, how can we stop the horrible conflict between both sides?

Lmfao.

The far-right: Let's do a genocide

The far-left: Let's make sure everyone's needs are met

The centrists: I can't tell the two of you apart!

And there's

Nazis: Kill the spooks, burn the Jews

Socialists: Racism isn't okay.

Radical centrists: Both sides are really acting out of pocket.

[Vassenor]

When Hillary lost, we knitted pink caps, marched peacefully and donated to Planned Parenthood.

When Trump lost, they built a gallows, stormed the Capitol and murdered a policeman.

No, both parties are not the same.

[Galloism]

When Hillary lost, we knitted pink caps, marched peacefully and donated to Planned Parenthood.

When Trump lost, they built a gallows, stormed the Capitol and murdered a policeman.

No, both parties are not the same.

I suppose we are all supposed to forget the part where they burned America and murdered (and attempted to murder) underage teenagers on more than one occasion as part of their "mostly peaceful" protests.

No the parties aren't the same, and we should recognize the right has massively raised the stakes in its actions in DC, but don't dishonestly scream "we didn't do anything".

[Vassenor]

When Hillary lost, we knitted pink caps, marched peacefully and donated to Planned Parenthood.

When Trump lost, they built a gallows, stormed the Capitol and murdered a policeman.

No, both parties are not the same.

I suppose we are all supposed to forget the part where they burned America and murdered (and attempted to murder) underage teenagers on more than one occasion as part of their "mostly peaceful" protests.

No the parties aren't the same, and we should recognize the right has massively raised the stakes in its actions in DC, but don't dishonestly scream "we didn't do nuffin'".

Where was the violence, looting and murder at the 2017 inauguration protests? You know, what was actually being talked about there.

In short, put those goalposts back and accept that your BUT BOTH SIDES narrative is bunk.

[Cannot think of a name]

When Hillary lost, we knitted pink caps, marched peacefully and donated to Planned Parenthood.

When Trump lost, they built a gallows, stormed the Capitol and murdered a policeman.

No, both parties are not the same.

I suppose we are all supposed to forget the part where they burned America and murdered (and attempted to murder) underage teenagers on more than one occasion as part of their "mostly peaceful" protests.

No the parties aren't the same, and we should recognize the right has massively raised the stakes in its actions in DC, but don't dishonestly scream "we didn't do nuffin'".

Did you just invoke the 'didn't do nuffin'? I mean...seriously? Were you trying to find ways to make this sound more tone deaf? Were you lonely? Seriously, dude...do you need a hug or something? You're just going to straight up use the rhetoric of the racists now? Jesus christ, man.

Good night.

[Galloism]

I suppose we are all supposed to forget the part where they burned America and murdered (and attempted to murder) underage teenagers on more than one occasion as part of their "mostly peaceful" protests.

No the parties aren't the same, and we should recognize the right has massively raised the stakes in its actions in DC, but don't dishonestly scream "we didn't do nuffin'".

Where was the violence, looting and murder at the 2017 inauguration protests? You know, what was actually being talked about there.

In short, put those goalposts back and accept that your BUT BOTH SIDES narrative is bunk.

Rather you gloss over the facts you don't like.

A casual google search came up with this.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics ... index.html

Six police officers were injured and 217 protesters arrested Friday after a morning of peaceful protests and coordinated disruptions of Donald Trump’s inauguration ceremony gave way to ugly street clashes in downtown Washington.

At least two DC police officers and one other person were taken to the hospital after run-ins with protesters, DC Fire Spokesman Vito Maggiolo told CNN. Acting DC Police Chief Peter Newsham said the officers’ injuries were considered minor and not life threatening.

Bursts of chaos erupted on 12th and K streets as black-clad “antifascist” protesters smashed storefronts and bus stops, hammered out the windows of a limousine and eventually launched rocks at a phalanx of police lined up in an eastbound crosswalk. Officers responded by launching smoke and flash-bang devices, which could be heard from blocks away, into the street to disperse the crowds.

“Pepper spray and other control devices were used to control the criminal actors and protect persons and property,” police said.

Anti-Trump protests also broke out Friday in US cities, including New York, Seattle, Dallas, Chicago and Portland, Oregon. Authorities in Seattle say one person was in critical condition at a hospital with a gunshot wound. Demonstrations also took place overseas in Hong Kong, Berlin and London.

In Washington, Newsham told CNN the several hundred demonstrators who actively confronted police were vastly outnumbered by the thousands of nonviolent protesters who swarmed the nation’s capital for Inauguration Day and Saturday’s Women’s March on Washington.

“We have been pointing out all along that this is a very isolated incident, and by and large, everything is going peacefully and a lot of folks have come to the city to enjoy this historic day, not only the Capitol but walking all around the city,” he said.

But many protesters, including permitted marchers, accused security personnel of denying them access to their planned routes.

Ashley Link, 37, made her way to Franklin Square after an ANSWER Coalition protest slated for the Navy Memorial on Pennsylvania Avenue, about a mile away, was effectively blocked by what many there described as onerous security restrictions. She expressed concern that isolated clashes with police would overshadow other messages on display, but sympathized with the rowdier elements in the street.

“I’m all about peaceful protesting, practicing nonviolence, but at the same time, I understand why people are so frustrated,” she said. “They are so upset about so many things in our country right now that to make a poster? There’s not a poster big enough to cover all the things that people are frustrated about.”

Hours earlier, Lysander Reid-Powell, a 20-year-old student from New Mexico, joined in a Black Lives Matter-led blockade of an entrance onto the National Mall.

“I think Donald Trump is a fascist, and it’s very easy for people, especially people who are in pain, to slip into fascism,” he said. “It’s easy for people to feel like the individual has no power and that you’re just one small little ant in the big hill, so ultimately all that matters is popular resistance.”

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics ... index.html

Again, not near the same level, but we see a pattern here of glossing things over when it suits your narrative

[Galloism]

I suppose we are all supposed to forget the part where they burned America and murdered (and attempted to murder) underage teenagers on more than one occasion as part of their "mostly peaceful" protests.

No the parties aren't the same, and we should recognize the right has massively raised the stakes in its actions in DC, but don't dishonestly scream "we didn't do nuffin'".

Did you just invoke the 'didn't do nuffin'? I mean...seriously? Were you trying to find ways to make this sound more tone deaf? Were you lonely? Seriously, dude...do you need a hug or something? You're just going to straight up use the rhetoric of the racists now? Jesus christ, man.

Good night.

What?

[Cannot think of a name]

Did you just invoke the 'didn't do nuffin'? I mean...seriously? Were you trying to find ways to make this sound more tone deaf? Were you lonely? Seriously, dude...do you need a hug or something? You're just going to straight up use the rhetoric of the racists now? Jesus christ, man.

Good night.

What?

You are not this unaware.

Or maybe you are.

Honestly, the result is all the same.

Play your role.

[Galloism]

What?

You are not this unaware.

Or maybe you are.

Honestly, the result is all the same.

Play your role.

I actually wasn't. It's in common usage in a lot of places and I didn't know the origin. I'll edit.

[Vassenor]

Where was the violence, looting and murder at the 2017 inauguration protests? You know, what was actually being talked about there.

In short, put those goalposts back and accept that your BUT BOTH SIDES narrative is bunk.

Rather you gloss over the facts you don't like.

A casual google search came up with this.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics ... index.html

Six police officers were injured and 217 protesters arrested Friday after a morning of peaceful protests and coordinated disruptions of Donald Trump’s inauguration ceremony gave way to ugly street clashes in downtown Washington.

At least two DC police officers and one other person were taken to the hospital after run-ins with protesters, DC Fire Spokesman Vito Maggiolo told CNN. Acting DC Police Chief Peter Newsham said the officers’ injuries were considered minor and not life threatening.

Bursts of chaos erupted on 12th and K streets as black-clad “antifascist” protesters smashed storefronts and bus stops, hammered out the windows of a limousine and eventually launched rocks at a phalanx of police lined up in an eastbound crosswalk. Officers responded by launching smoke and flash-bang devices, which could be heard from blocks away, into the street to disperse the crowds.

“Pepper spray and other control devices were used to control the criminal actors and protect persons and property,” police said.

Anti-Trump protests also broke out Friday in US cities, including New York, Seattle, Dallas, Chicago and Portland, Oregon. Authorities in Seattle say one person was in critical condition at a hospital with a gunshot wound. Demonstrations also took place overseas in Hong Kong, Berlin and London.

In Washington, Newsham told CNN the several hundred demonstrators who actively confronted police were vastly outnumbered by the thousands of nonviolent protesters who swarmed the nation’s capital for Inauguration Day and Saturday’s Women’s March on Washington.

“We have been pointing out all along that this is a very isolated incident, and by and large, everything is going peacefully and a lot of folks have come to the city to enjoy this historic day, not only the Capitol but walking all around the city,” he said.

But many protesters, including permitted marchers, accused security personnel of denying them access to their planned routes.

Ashley Link, 37, made her way to Franklin Square after an ANSWER Coalition protest slated for the Navy Memorial on Pennsylvania Avenue, about a mile away, was effectively blocked by what many there described as onerous security restrictions. She expressed concern that isolated clashes with police would overshadow other messages on display, but sympathized with the rowdier elements in the street.

“I’m all about peaceful protesting, practicing nonviolence, but at the same time, I understand why people are so frustrated,” she said. “They are so upset about so many things in our country right now that to make a poster? There’s not a poster big enough to cover all the things that people are frustrated about.”

Hours earlier, Lysander Reid-Powell, a 20-year-old student from New Mexico, joined in a Black Lives Matter-led blockade of an entrance onto the National Mall.

“I think Donald Trump is a fascist, and it’s very easy for people, especially people who are in pain, to slip into fascism,” he said. “It’s easy for people to feel like the individual has no power and that you’re just one small little ant in the big hill, so ultimately all that matters is popular resistance.”

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics ... index.html

Again, not near the same level, but we see a pattern here of glossing things over when it suits your narrative

So where was the murder you claimed?

Also if we're going to talk about glossing over things when it suits your narrative:

In Washington, Newsham told CNN the several hundred demonstrators who actively confronted police were vastly outnumbered by the thousands of nonviolent protesters who swarmed the nation's capital for Inauguration Day and Saturday's Women's March on Washington.

"We have been pointing out all along that this is a very isolated incident, and by and large, everything is going peacefully and a lot of folks have come to the city to enjoy this historic day, not only the Capitol but walking all around the city," he said.

Sorry if it upsets you to see a feminist movement depicted positively, but to equate this to an attempted insurrection and the actual murder of a police officer is so disingenuous it's not even funny.

[Cannot think of a name]

You are not this unaware.

Or maybe you are.

Honestly, the result is all the same.

Play your role.

I actually wasn't. It's in common usage in a lot of places and I didn't know the origin. I'll edit.

To see its use as common and not see its context says everything anyone needs to know.

[Galloism]

Rather you gloss over the facts you don't like.

A casual google search came up with this.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics ... index.html



https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics ... index.html

Again, not near the same level, but we see a pattern here of glossing things over when it suits your narrative

So where was the murder you claimed?

Also if we're going to talk about glossing over things when it suits your narrative:

In Washington, Newsham told CNN the several hundred demonstrators who actively confronted police were vastly outnumbered by the thousands of nonviolent protesters who swarmed the nation's capital for Inauguration Day and Saturday's Women's March on Washington.

"We have been pointing out all along that this is a very isolated incident, and by and large, everything is going peacefully and a lot of folks have come to the city to enjoy this historic day, not only the Capitol but walking all around the city," he said.

Sorry if it upsets you to see a feminist movement depicted positively, but to equate this to an attempted insurrection and the actual murder of a police officer is so disingenuous it's not even funny.

Let's go back. This was your post:

I suppose we are all supposed to forget the part where they burned America and murdered (and attempted to murder) underage teenagers on more than one occasion as part of their "mostly peaceful" protests.

No the parties aren't the same, and we should recognize the right has massively raised the stakes in its actions in DC, but don't dishonestly scream "we didn't do nuffin'".

Where was the violence, looting and murder at the 2017 inauguration protests? You know, what was actually being talked about there.

In short, put those goalposts back and accept that your BUT BOTH SIDES narrative is bunk.

We had violence and looting back in 2017. I do not know if the man shot in Seattle in the trump inauguration protests died, but that might be down luck.

Suffice to say, it wasn't all innocent little lambs that did nothing wrong back then either - there was also assault, arson, attempted murder (at least). It's a cascading pattern of violence for years now.