[Abortion Thread] (POLL 4) A compromising position...

[The New California Republic]

If debate is too stressful then remember that your presence here is entirely voluntary, nobody is forcing you to be here...

I am being forced to be here by my FBI handler

Oh so you are just being facetious and saying things in bad faith for no reason at all, even though it looks ridiculous, gotcha. Well, I don't really get it at all, because doing such a thing really is very very strange.

[Godular]

That somehow manages the feat of being even more idiotic than what prompted my reply, while also failing to actually counter the point.

Well I think you're just being really picky for no reason at all

That still doesn't address the actual point. There is a difference between rejecting the idea of being forced into accommodating something a person is neither prepared nor willing to support, and being 'picky'.

[Great Algerstonia]

I am being forced to be here by my FBI handler

Oh so you are just being facetious and saying things in bad faith for no reason at all, even though it looks ridiculous, gotcha. Well, I don't really get it at all, because doing such a thing really is very very strange.

That is a very rude thing to assume and I think you are looking ridiculous not me

NCR= New California Ridiculousness

[Great Algerstonia]

But, but... someone is wrong on the internet!

Jk.
I like how they oppose the deliberate demise of a clump of cells, but advocate the deliberate demise of a formerly pregnant person.

Alger, like NN has not spent a single sincere moment on NS since forever.

I have not been alive in forever, only for a finite amount of time, so you are wrong

[Thepeopl]

Alger, like NN has not spent a single sincere moment on NS since forever.

I have not been alive in forever, only for a finite amount of time, so you are wrong

Could you explain why you would advocate the deliberate demise of a formerly pregnant person if you oppose the deliberate demise of a clump of cells?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I have not been alive in forever, only for a finite amount of time, so you are wrong

Could you explain why you would advocate the deliberate demise of a formerly pregnant person if you oppose the deliberate demise of a clump of cells?

I'mma save you a lot of a calories and tell you that Alger cannot fulfil this request of yours.

[Great Algerstonia]

I have not been alive in forever, only for a finite amount of time, so you are wrong

Could you explain why you would advocate the deliberate demise of a formerly pregnant person if you oppose the deliberate demise of a clump of cells?

Because babies are cuter than adults

[Godular]

I have not been alive in forever, only for a finite amount of time, so you are wrong

Could you explain why you would advocate the deliberate demise of a formerly pregnant person if you oppose the deliberate demise of a clump of cells?

G.A. stated in another thread that they were mocking pro-life folks who champion the death penalty at the same time. It would have been nice if they'd been more obvious that they meant their post in jest, as the Abortion thread is not the best place to test Poe's Law.

[The Black Forrest]

Could you explain why you would advocate the deliberate demise of a formerly pregnant person if you oppose the deliberate demise of a clump of cells?

Because babies are cuter than adults

There is truth to that. The adults haven’t had to time to teach them racism and hatred.

[Fiorina-Fury 161]

The death penalty is something that should only be used on horrible criminals. Not the innocent unborn.

[The Black Forrest]

The death penalty is something that should only be used on horrible criminals. Not the innocent unborn.

Not sure what you mean.

[Genivaria]

The death penalty is something that should only be used on horrible criminals. Not the innocent unborn.

Not sure what you mean.

They're shoehorning the assumption that abortion is murder into their premise without justifying it.

[Godular]

The death penalty is something that should only be used on horrible criminals. Not the innocent unborn.

It is wrong to treat abortion as if it is being used to punish the fetus for something. Such is not the case.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

If abortion is murder then I am committing genocide every time I scratch myself.

[Great Algerstonia]

If abortion is murder then I am committing genocide every time I scratch myself.

You are a maniac... oh wait... oh no... I'm a maniac too... FUCK WE'RE ALL MANIACS

[Genivaria]

Could you explain why you would advocate the deliberate demise of a formerly pregnant person if you oppose the deliberate demise of a clump of cells?

G.A. stated in another thread that they were mocking pro-life folks who champion the death penalty at the same time. It would have been nice if they'd been more obvious that they meant their post in jest, as the Abortion thread is not the best place to test Poe's Law.

GA is a regular shitposter, whether it's to get a rise outta people or for his own amusement idk.

[Vassenor]

The death penalty is something that should only be used on horrible criminals. Not the innocent unborn.

Starting off with the appeals to emotion.

Feeling bold today, aren’t we?

[Neutraligon]

If abortion is murder then I am committing genocide every time I scratch myself.

You are a maniac... oh wait... oh no... I'm a maniac too... FUCK WE'RE ALL MANIACS

https://youtu.be/6GCNUeTFSbA?t=72

Anyway I am worried about women's health in the US.

[The Archregimancy]

All abortions should be punished with the death penalty

Oh so you are just being facetious and saying things in bad faith for no reason at all, even though it looks ridiculous, gotcha. Well, I don't really get it at all, because doing such a thing really is very very strange.

That is a very rude thing to assume and I think you are looking ridiculous not me

NCR= New California Ridiculousness

Great Algerstonia, *** warned for trolling and flaming. ***

On the first of the above posts, you've tried to argue in the Moderation report thread that this was 'was poking fun at fake pro-life people that still support the death penalty', and therefore deliberate irony. Unfortunately, this isn't at all obvious from the context of your post, and given your overall posting record it should come as no surprise that other posters have either misunderstood or aren't prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt. And regardless of the intent of the first post, the second post is unambiguous flaming.

[The Alma Mater]

Sideways related: Sarah Weddington, the legal representative of Roe in Roe vs Wade, died last sunday.

An omen ?

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Do other pro-choicers agree with me that abortion rather than birth should be the default when the one who is pregnant lacks the capacity to consent? For example, if a coma patient is raped, or a sverely intellectually disabled ward of the state, or a 10-year-old child. I find it fascinating and outrageous that birth is often still the default in these situations. It stands to reason that when consent is not possible, the option that has the lesser impact on one's body and lesser risk should be selected.

I mean honestly, when a judge rules "she doesn't have the capacity to consent, so she has to give birth" I see that as little different than "this woman is too drunk to decide whether or not she wants to have sex with this man, so she has to have sex with him."

[Collective A]

What he/she wrote

Yes, because an incapacitated person should not become a parent.

[Thepeopl]

Whilst most incapacitated as described in Pages post will have a legal guardian, I too am of the opinion that all those cases should be aborted.

[Ifreann]

Do other pro-choicers agree with me that abortion rather than birth should be the default when the one who is pregnant lacks the capacity to consent? For example, if a coma patient is raped, or a sverely intellectually disabled ward of the state, or a 10-year-old child. I find it fascinating and outrageous that birth is often still the default in these situations. It stands to reason that when consent is not possible, the option that has the lesser impact on one's body and lesser risk should be selected.

I mean honestly, when a judge rules "she doesn't have the capacity to consent, so she has to give birth" I see that as little different than "this woman is too drunk to decide whether or not she wants to have sex with this man, so she has to have sex with him."

It makes sense as a default to terminate a pregnancy that occurs when we can't ask the pregnant person what they want, in the same way that we default to performing CPR on someone when we can't ask what they want.

[Kowani]

Arson attack on Planned Parenthood clinic in Knoxville, Tennessee