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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:57 am

Imagine having a police force that doesn't protect citizens but goes around trying to murder them.
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Postby Loben III » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:07 am

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This is the same MLK who described riots as the voice of the unheard?


MLK's daugter disagrees.

Also, the Belarus protests seem to be getting heard without violence.



Wonder why that is.......
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:18 am

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1. I am Asian American.
2. I am not wrong in that BLM protests seem to be mostly an excuse to commit violence.
3. Martin Luther King Jr had a strong voice and did it without violence. He would disapprove of BLM.


This is the same MLK who described riots as the voice of the unheard?

You do realize that king was saying that we need to work to stop riots from happening right? Because if we don’t listen to the voices of the unheard they will riot
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:46 am

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MLK's daugter disagrees.

Also, the Belarus protests seem to be getting heard without violence.



Wonder why that is.......


Enlighten us then. Given how the peaceful protests on the BLM side get roundly ignored because people want to write it off as just violence and looting.
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Postby Loben III » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:52 am

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Wonder why that is.......


Enlighten us then. Given how the peaceful protests on the BLM side get roundly ignored because people want to write it off as just violence and looting.


All I’m wondering is why people in Eastern Europe don’t resort to rioting when meanwhile, people see red when someone gets shot.

Weird.....very weird.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:53 am

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Enlighten us then. Given how the peaceful protests on the BLM side get roundly ignored because people want to write it off as just violence and looting.


All I’m wondering is why people in Eastern Europe don’t resort to rioting when meanwhile, people see red when someone gets shot.

Weird.....very weird.


And ignoring the fact that most people in the US don't resort to rioting either because it's injurious to your narratives again.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:54 am

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Vassenor wrote:
Enlighten us then. Given how the peaceful protests on the BLM side get roundly ignored because people want to write it off as just violence and looting.


All I’m wondering is why people in Eastern Europe don’t resort to rioting when meanwhile, people see red when someone gets shot.

Weird.....very weird.

Just say what you want to say instead of pussyfooting around.

Cant stand this shit off some people on this website.
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Postby Loben III » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:55 am

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All I’m wondering is why people in Eastern Europe don’t resort to rioting when meanwhile, people see red when someone gets shot.

Weird.....very weird.

Just say what you want to say instead of pussyfooting around.

Cant stand this shit off some people on this website.


Say what?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:57 am

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Just say what you want to say instead of pussyfooting around.

Cant stand this shit off some people on this website.


Say what?

Instead of going "Weird.... very weird" or "Wonder why that is...." just say whatever it is you want to say already.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:00 am

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Say what?

Instead of going "Weird.... very weird" or "Wonder why that is...." just say whatever it is you want to say already.


It's an almost Trumpian level of "I could say it, but..."
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Postby Loben III » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:01 am

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Say what?

Instead of going "Weird.... very weird" or "Wonder why that is...." just say whatever it is you want to say already.


Maybe westerners are prone to rioting?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:09 am

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Instead of going "Weird.... very weird" or "Wonder why that is...." just say whatever it is you want to say already.


Maybe westerners are prone to rioting?


As if riots don't happen in Eastern Europe. It happens all the time there.
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Postby Loben III » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:10 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
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Maybe westerners are prone to rioting?


As if riots don't happen in Eastern Europe. It happens all the time there.


Doesn’t garner as much media attention as this shit.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:12 am

The way people skip over even trying to defend the police and go straight to trying to delegitimise the protests against them, kinda makes it seem like even the people who support the cops know full well that there is no defence to be made.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:19 am

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As if riots don't happen in Eastern Europe. It happens all the time there.


Doesn’t garner as much media attention as this shit.


Uh yeah cause its normal. When some eastern European country has violence issues, it's on the same level of newsworthy as a terror attack in Syria or shootings in Detroit.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:19 am

Vassenor wrote:
Loben III wrote:

Wonder why that is.......


Enlighten us then. Given how the peaceful protests on the BLM side get roundly ignored because people want to write it off as just violence and looting.

Second costliest riot in history in Minneapolis/St Paul, half a billion dollars, only exceeded by the Los Angeles Riots in 1992.

When you’re in the top five for high score in damages from riots, people tend to notice that.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:19 am

Ifreann wrote:The way people skip over even trying to defend the police and go straight to trying to delegitimise the protests against them, kinda makes it seem like even the people who support the cops know full well that there is no defence to be made.


Of course they know. The cops have so obviously made it clear they neither deserve respect nor funding in these times.
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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:38 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Thank God the shooting victim is still alive. I dont blame people for being pissed off as fuck considering how there's always a police shooting and the police say it was "self defense" even when anyone with common sense knows it ain't.

The police need to be seriously retrained. And I’m for gun control, controlling what guns the police get to use that is. The police shouldn’t have more than a six shooter and a shotgun. Outside of that it’s tasers for all


I'm not averse to American blacks arming themselves to the teeth if they feel that's what it would take to deter further police violence against their kith and kin. The problem is that most of these blacks live in Democrat-controlled, typically "gun-free" zones such as NYC. Democrat municipalities are officially gun-free, right? I don't entirely fault them for lashing out even if I may disagree with their racially charged rhetoric about "white supremacy". Give them guns.

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I used to have fair skin and red hair as a child before good old puberty set in and a little black boy attacked me and called me "white loaf." And my ninth grade world history teacher was attacked by a bunch of black kids when he was young because of his skintone. We like to talk about racism against minorities and we should, but racism isn't a one way street. It can happen to anyone.


Being a racial minority just in that area, perhaps?


That's another variable that's gone largely ignored: The statistical, demographic factor. Being a visible minority anywhere comes with an increased risk of being the victim of racial abuse, discrimination, and violence. This applies to ALL races, not just people of "color". Black isn't a color either. It's a non-color. Laowhy86, a white American who lived and worked in China, began to experience an increasing amount of racist, xenophobic abuse from Chinese locals and increasing police harassment for his work as a filmmaker as the country began to drift inexorably toward full-blown, totalitarian fascism and far-right ultranationalism under President and Dear Leader for Life, Xi Jinping. And don't tell me white South Africans haven't experienced racism from the black majority and been on the receiving end of shouts of "kill the Boers", not to mention the farm murders.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:01 am

Galloism wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Enlighten us then. Given how the peaceful protests on the BLM side get roundly ignored because people want to write it off as just violence and looting.

Second costliest riot in history in Minneapolis/St Paul, half a billion dollars, only exceeded by the Los Angeles Riots in 1992.

When you’re in the top five for high score in damages from riots, people tend to notice that.


Racist police officers are costly.
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Postby Loben III » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:06 am

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Galloism wrote:Second costliest riot in history in Minneapolis/St Paul, half a billion dollars, only exceeded by the Los Angeles Riots in 1992.

When you’re in the top five for high score in damages from riots, people tend to notice that.


Racist police officers are costly.


So are riots. But it’s the taxpayers money, right?
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:06 am

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Racist police officers are costly.


So are riots. But it’s the taxpayers money, right?


Well maybe if we reformed the police to make it less costly and less overtly racist...
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:17 am

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Racist police officers are costly.


So are riots. But it’s the taxpayers money, right?


The riots that come from having racist police officers.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:19 am

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The police need to be seriously retrained. And I’m for gun control, controlling what guns the police get to use that is. The police shouldn’t have more than a six shooter and a shotgun. Outside of that it’s tasers for all


I'm not averse to American blacks arming themselves to the teeth if they feel that's what it would take to deter further police violence against their kith and kin. The problem is that most of these blacks live in Democrat-controlled, typically "gun-free" zones such as NYC. Democrat municipalities are officially gun-free, right? I don't entirely fault them for lashing out even if I may disagree with their racially charged rhetoric about "white supremacy". Give them guns.


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Postby Katganistan » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:31 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Portlander here, part of that is how the police responded, part of that is how the fed responded.


I could really not give a crap if your a "portlander" that means literally nothing, you could be a member of Antifa for all we know.

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Postby Kowani » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:02 am

Loben III wrote:
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Racist police officers are costly.


So are riots. But it’s the taxpayers money, right?

Well…maybe. Depends on if it’s the state, local or federal government paying for the cleanup. If the former two, than yeah.
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