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2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:33 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:The owner of an old Kenosha camera shop refused to pose with Trump, saying Trump was using him and his shop for political gain. So Trump had the former owner of the shop pretend to be the current owner for a photo op.

So it looks like Trump didn't really give two-craps about the riots and it's all for political gains and photo ops. Im very, very, very, surprised.


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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:19 pm

...I may have been wrong about Mermell...with 80% in she's only leading by 105 votes at this point.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:55 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:The owner of an old Kenosha camera shop refused to pose with Trump, saying Trump was using him and his shop for political gain. So Trump had the former owner of the shop pretend to be the current owner for a photo op.

So it looks like Trump didn't really give two-craps about the riots and it's all for political gains and photo ops. Im very, very, very, surprised.


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Postby Slaughter None » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:01 am

During the DNC, Andrew Cuomo refered to the Coronavirus as the "European Virus" spreading a conspiracy theory that the CCP told to shift blame from themselves.

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Postby Kexholm and Karelia » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:03 am

Slaughter None wrote:During the DNC, Andrew Cuomo refered to the Coronavirus as the "European Virus" spreading a conspiracy theory that the CCP told to shift blame from themselves.

He doesn’t want to blame the people who keep all of the businesses in his state running through outsources sweatshops
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Postby Slaughter None » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:04 am

United States of Devonta wrote:The owner of an old Kenosha camera shop refused to pose with Trump, saying Trump was using him and his shop for political gain. So Trump had the former owner of the shop pretend to be the current owner for a photo op.

So it looks like Trump didn't really give two-craps about the riots and it's all for political gains and photo ops. Im very, very, very, surprised.

The person standing there does own the buisness(not the property, right?) and that too there is no verification that it is his store.

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Postby Valrifell » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:06 am

Slaughter None wrote:During the DNC, Andrew Cuomo refered to the Coronavirus as the "European Virus" spreading a conspiracy theory that the CCP told to shift blame from themselves.


Perhaps more of a nod that the current infection is thought to have directly originated from Europe and not China. Though "American Virus" is, perhaps, most accurate at this point.

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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:08 am

United States of Devonta wrote:The owner of an old Kenosha camera shop refused to pose with Trump, saying Trump was using him and his shop for political gain. So Trump had the former owner of the shop pretend to be the current owner for a photo op.

So it looks like Trump didn't really give two-craps about the riots and it's all for political gains and photo ops. Im very, very, very, surprised.


It's not surprising at all considering Trump does almost everything for some political purpose. What's concerning, however, is the fact Trump's Approval Rating Is Steadily Healing, which seems inline with incumbents' approval ratings increasing as the election nears for the most part. Whether that will continue though remains to be seen.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:10 am

Aureumterra wrote:

You can follow politics and be happy with your life


You just need to know when enough is enough. :)
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Postby Nuroblav » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:13 am


I think we all envy him here :(
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:26 am

Biden Will Air a Nationwide Law-and-Order Ad Condemning Rioters and Looters. The ad will air in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin and will take parts of Biden's Pittsburgh Speech.

Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign unveiled a new television ad late Tuesday that packages portions of his speech on Monday in Pittsburgh condemning the sporadic violence that has erupted in some cities. The ad came as the former vice president pushes back against President Trump’s efforts to define the Democrats as a party tolerant of lawlessness.

Mr. Biden has repeatedly condemned instances in which protests for racial justice have burst into violence, accusing Mr. Trump of stoking divisions and laying blame for any chaos on the current occupant of the White House.

But the ad — part of a $45 million one-week television and digital purchase that is by far the campaign’s largest to date — is the first time that Mr. Biden has put this pushback on issues of crime and public safety into a major paid advertising program.

“I want to make it absolutely clear,” Mr. Biden says as images flash of burned-out cars and buildings and a confrontation with the police. “Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. And those who do it should be prosecuted.”

Mr. Biden casts himself as a unifying figure who would seek to “lower the temperature” of the national debate and bring the country together. The spot ends with Mr. Biden, who is Catholic, quoting the former pope, John Paul II: “Be not afraid.”

Unlike many of Mr. Biden’s recent ads, the 60-second spot does not mention the coronavirus pandemic.

The Biden campaign said the ad would air nationally on cable television and in local markets in nine battleground states: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The speech in Pittsburgh and the advertising campaign are part of Mr. Biden’s response to a Republican convention last week in which the G.O.P. tried repeatedly to twist the former vice president’s record on crime and policing, with Mr. Trump himself often amplifying the misleading claims on Twitter.

At times, the Republicans have accused Mr. Biden of being too tough on criminals, citing his role in crafting the 1994 crime bill; at others, they have accused him of coddling rioters.

“Ask yourself: Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters?” Mr. Biden said in Monday’s speech. “Really?”

He then pivoted to try to broaden the definition of safety for voters, arguing that Mr. Trump had eroded the health and economic safety of millions of Americans through his response to the coronavirus.

“I want a safe America,” Mr. Biden said. “Safe from Covid, safe from crime and looting, safe from racially motivated violence, safe from bad cops. Let me be crystal clear: safe from four more years of Donald Trump.”

The sheer size of the new advertising purchase — it is bigger than Mr. Biden’s paid-media budget during the entirety of the 2020 primaries — is a testament to how much money is pouring into the campaign.

Mr. Biden raised more than $300 million in August with the Democratic Party, according to people familiar with the matter. The exact figure is still unknown, but the total is believed to be the largest sum that any candidate has ever raised, granting the Biden campaign financial flexibility to spend so heavily on ads in early September.


In all honesty, this is a smart move on his part: he knows Trump will benefit from the violence, especially since he has tied Biden to the violence, and left unanswered. The $45 million dollar price tag too (the largest by Biden so far) should tell us why this important for him to address now and take some wind out of Trump's sails.
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:31 am

Nuroblav wrote:

I think we all envy him here :(

Unless politics is directly affecting your personal life negatively, you can still be happy and follow it
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Postby Nuroblav » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:33 am

Aureumterra wrote:Unless politics is directly affecting your personal life negatively, you can still be happy and follow it

Well yeah I know that...
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:35 am

^Yeah, that's good. I hope he spares a few words for the right to protest, but so long as he's really firm on violence, intimidation and property destruction I'll be happy.

"Bad cops" is the correct wording. Don't be too smart about it: the word "bad" has regained its former primal power after years of people using euphemisms like "inappropriate" ... or "deplorable". And "brutal cops" as I like to say is actually archaic.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:35 am

Zurkerx wrote:Biden Will Air a Nationwide Law-and-Order Ad Condemning Rioters and Looters. The ad will air in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin and will take parts of Biden's Pittsburgh Speech.

Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign unveiled a new television ad late Tuesday that packages portions of his speech on Monday in Pittsburgh condemning the sporadic violence that has erupted in some cities. The ad came as the former vice president pushes back against President Trump’s efforts to define the Democrats as a party tolerant of lawlessness.

Mr. Biden has repeatedly condemned instances in which protests for racial justice have burst into violence, accusing Mr. Trump of stoking divisions and laying blame for any chaos on the current occupant of the White House.

But the ad — part of a $45 million one-week television and digital purchase that is by far the campaign’s largest to date — is the first time that Mr. Biden has put this pushback on issues of crime and public safety into a major paid advertising program.

“I want to make it absolutely clear,” Mr. Biden says as images flash of burned-out cars and buildings and a confrontation with the police. “Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. And those who do it should be prosecuted.”

Mr. Biden casts himself as a unifying figure who would seek to “lower the temperature” of the national debate and bring the country together. The spot ends with Mr. Biden, who is Catholic, quoting the former pope, John Paul II: “Be not afraid.”

Unlike many of Mr. Biden’s recent ads, the 60-second spot does not mention the coronavirus pandemic.

The Biden campaign said the ad would air nationally on cable television and in local markets in nine battleground states: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The speech in Pittsburgh and the advertising campaign are part of Mr. Biden’s response to a Republican convention last week in which the G.O.P. tried repeatedly to twist the former vice president’s record on crime and policing, with Mr. Trump himself often amplifying the misleading claims on Twitter.

At times, the Republicans have accused Mr. Biden of being too tough on criminals, citing his role in crafting the 1994 crime bill; at others, they have accused him of coddling rioters.

“Ask yourself: Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters?” Mr. Biden said in Monday’s speech. “Really?”

He then pivoted to try to broaden the definition of safety for voters, arguing that Mr. Trump had eroded the health and economic safety of millions of Americans through his response to the coronavirus.

“I want a safe America,” Mr. Biden said. “Safe from Covid, safe from crime and looting, safe from racially motivated violence, safe from bad cops. Let me be crystal clear: safe from four more years of Donald Trump.”

The sheer size of the new advertising purchase — it is bigger than Mr. Biden’s paid-media budget during the entirety of the 2020 primaries — is a testament to how much money is pouring into the campaign.

Mr. Biden raised more than $300 million in August with the Democratic Party, according to people familiar with the matter. The exact figure is still unknown, but the total is believed to be the largest sum that any candidate has ever raised, granting the Biden campaign financial flexibility to spend so heavily on ads in early September.


In all honesty, this is a smart move on his part: he knows Trump will benefit from the violence, especially since he has tied Biden to the violence, and left unanswered. The $45 million dollar price tag too (the largest by Biden so far) should tell us why this important for him to address now and take some wind out of Trump's sails.


That doesn't take Wind out of his sails though. It's Vindication. Biden ignored the rioting until he realized it was unpopular.
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:35 am

Zurkerx wrote:Biden Will Air a Nationwide Law-and-Order Ad Condemning Rioters and Looters. The ad will air in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin and will take parts of Biden's Pittsburgh Speech.

Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign unveiled a new television ad late Tuesday that packages portions of his speech on Monday in Pittsburgh condemning the sporadic violence that has erupted in some cities. The ad came as the former vice president pushes back against President Trump’s efforts to define the Democrats as a party tolerant of lawlessness.

Mr. Biden has repeatedly condemned instances in which protests for racial justice have burst into violence, accusing Mr. Trump of stoking divisions and laying blame for any chaos on the current occupant of the White House.

But the ad — part of a $45 million one-week television and digital purchase that is by far the campaign’s largest to date — is the first time that Mr. Biden has put this pushback on issues of crime and public safety into a major paid advertising program.

“I want to make it absolutely clear,” Mr. Biden says as images flash of burned-out cars and buildings and a confrontation with the police. “Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. And those who do it should be prosecuted.”

Mr. Biden casts himself as a unifying figure who would seek to “lower the temperature” of the national debate and bring the country together. The spot ends with Mr. Biden, who is Catholic, quoting the former pope, John Paul II: “Be not afraid.”

Unlike many of Mr. Biden’s recent ads, the 60-second spot does not mention the coronavirus pandemic.

The Biden campaign said the ad would air nationally on cable television and in local markets in nine battleground states: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The speech in Pittsburgh and the advertising campaign are part of Mr. Biden’s response to a Republican convention last week in which the G.O.P. tried repeatedly to twist the former vice president’s record on crime and policing, with Mr. Trump himself often amplifying the misleading claims on Twitter.

At times, the Republicans have accused Mr. Biden of being too tough on criminals, citing his role in crafting the 1994 crime bill; at others, they have accused him of coddling rioters.

“Ask yourself: Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters?” Mr. Biden said in Monday’s speech. “Really?”

He then pivoted to try to broaden the definition of safety for voters, arguing that Mr. Trump had eroded the health and economic safety of millions of Americans through his response to the coronavirus.

“I want a safe America,” Mr. Biden said. “Safe from Covid, safe from crime and looting, safe from racially motivated violence, safe from bad cops. Let me be crystal clear: safe from four more years of Donald Trump.”

The sheer size of the new advertising purchase — it is bigger than Mr. Biden’s paid-media budget during the entirety of the 2020 primaries — is a testament to how much money is pouring into the campaign.

Mr. Biden raised more than $300 million in August with the Democratic Party, according to people familiar with the matter. The exact figure is still unknown, but the total is believed to be the largest sum that any candidate has ever raised, granting the Biden campaign financial flexibility to spend so heavily on ads in early September.


In all honesty, this is a smart move on his part: he knows Trump will benefit from the violence, especially since he has tied Biden to the violence, and left unanswered. The $45 million dollar price tag too (the largest by Biden so far) should tell us why this important for him to address now and take some wind out of Trump's sails.

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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:36 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Biden Will Air a Nationwide Law-and-Order Ad Condemning Rioters and Looters. The ad will air in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin and will take parts of Biden's Pittsburgh Speech.

Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign unveiled a new television ad late Tuesday that packages portions of his speech on Monday in Pittsburgh condemning the sporadic violence that has erupted in some cities. The ad came as the former vice president pushes back against President Trump’s efforts to define the Democrats as a party tolerant of lawlessness.

Mr. Biden has repeatedly condemned instances in which protests for racial justice have burst into violence, accusing Mr. Trump of stoking divisions and laying blame for any chaos on the current occupant of the White House.

But the ad — part of a $45 million one-week television and digital purchase that is by far the campaign’s largest to date — is the first time that Mr. Biden has put this pushback on issues of crime and public safety into a major paid advertising program.

“I want to make it absolutely clear,” Mr. Biden says as images flash of burned-out cars and buildings and a confrontation with the police. “Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. And those who do it should be prosecuted.”

Mr. Biden casts himself as a unifying figure who would seek to “lower the temperature” of the national debate and bring the country together. The spot ends with Mr. Biden, who is Catholic, quoting the former pope, John Paul II: “Be not afraid.”

Unlike many of Mr. Biden’s recent ads, the 60-second spot does not mention the coronavirus pandemic.

The Biden campaign said the ad would air nationally on cable television and in local markets in nine battleground states: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The speech in Pittsburgh and the advertising campaign are part of Mr. Biden’s response to a Republican convention last week in which the G.O.P. tried repeatedly to twist the former vice president’s record on crime and policing, with Mr. Trump himself often amplifying the misleading claims on Twitter.

At times, the Republicans have accused Mr. Biden of being too tough on criminals, citing his role in crafting the 1994 crime bill; at others, they have accused him of coddling rioters.

“Ask yourself: Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters?” Mr. Biden said in Monday’s speech. “Really?”

He then pivoted to try to broaden the definition of safety for voters, arguing that Mr. Trump had eroded the health and economic safety of millions of Americans through his response to the coronavirus.

“I want a safe America,” Mr. Biden said. “Safe from Covid, safe from crime and looting, safe from racially motivated violence, safe from bad cops. Let me be crystal clear: safe from four more years of Donald Trump.”

The sheer size of the new advertising purchase — it is bigger than Mr. Biden’s paid-media budget during the entirety of the 2020 primaries — is a testament to how much money is pouring into the campaign.

Mr. Biden raised more than $300 million in August with the Democratic Party, according to people familiar with the matter. The exact figure is still unknown, but the total is believed to be the largest sum that any candidate has ever raised, granting the Biden campaign financial flexibility to spend so heavily on ads in early September.


In all honesty, this is a smart move on his part: he knows Trump will benefit from the violence, especially since he has tied Biden to the violence, and left unanswered. The $45 million dollar price tag too (the largest by Biden so far) should tell us why this important for him to address now and take some wind out of Trump's sails.


That doesn't take Wind out of his sails though. It's Vindication. Biden ignored the rioting until he realized it was unpopular.

It’s better than trying to justify riots
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:38 am

Aureumterra wrote:
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That doesn't take Wind out of his sails though. It's Vindication. Biden ignored the rioting until he realized it was unpopular.

It’s better than trying to justify riots


Better, yes. But it's damage control, and a little late TBH.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:38 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Biden Will Air a Nationwide Law-and-Order Ad Condemning Rioters and Looters. The ad will air in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin and will take parts of Biden's Pittsburgh Speech.

Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign unveiled a new television ad late Tuesday that packages portions of his speech on Monday in Pittsburgh condemning the sporadic violence that has erupted in some cities. The ad came as the former vice president pushes back against President Trump’s efforts to define the Democrats as a party tolerant of lawlessness.

Mr. Biden has repeatedly condemned instances in which protests for racial justice have burst into violence, accusing Mr. Trump of stoking divisions and laying blame for any chaos on the current occupant of the White House.

But the ad — part of a $45 million one-week television and digital purchase that is by far the campaign’s largest to date — is the first time that Mr. Biden has put this pushback on issues of crime and public safety into a major paid advertising program.

“I want to make it absolutely clear,” Mr. Biden says as images flash of burned-out cars and buildings and a confrontation with the police. “Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. And those who do it should be prosecuted.”

Mr. Biden casts himself as a unifying figure who would seek to “lower the temperature” of the national debate and bring the country together. The spot ends with Mr. Biden, who is Catholic, quoting the former pope, John Paul II: “Be not afraid.”

Unlike many of Mr. Biden’s recent ads, the 60-second spot does not mention the coronavirus pandemic.

The Biden campaign said the ad would air nationally on cable television and in local markets in nine battleground states: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The speech in Pittsburgh and the advertising campaign are part of Mr. Biden’s response to a Republican convention last week in which the G.O.P. tried repeatedly to twist the former vice president’s record on crime and policing, with Mr. Trump himself often amplifying the misleading claims on Twitter.

At times, the Republicans have accused Mr. Biden of being too tough on criminals, citing his role in crafting the 1994 crime bill; at others, they have accused him of coddling rioters.

“Ask yourself: Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters?” Mr. Biden said in Monday’s speech. “Really?”

He then pivoted to try to broaden the definition of safety for voters, arguing that Mr. Trump had eroded the health and economic safety of millions of Americans through his response to the coronavirus.

“I want a safe America,” Mr. Biden said. “Safe from Covid, safe from crime and looting, safe from racially motivated violence, safe from bad cops. Let me be crystal clear: safe from four more years of Donald Trump.”

The sheer size of the new advertising purchase — it is bigger than Mr. Biden’s paid-media budget during the entirety of the 2020 primaries — is a testament to how much money is pouring into the campaign.

Mr. Biden raised more than $300 million in August with the Democratic Party, according to people familiar with the matter. The exact figure is still unknown, but the total is believed to be the largest sum that any candidate has ever raised, granting the Biden campaign financial flexibility to spend so heavily on ads in early September.


In all honesty, this is a smart move on his part: he knows Trump will benefit from the violence, especially since he has tied Biden to the violence, and left unanswered. The $45 million dollar price tag too (the largest by Biden so far) should tell us why this important for him to address now and take some wind out of Trump's sails.


That doesn't take Wind out of his sails though. It's Vindication. Biden ignored the rioting until he realized it was unpopular.


That sounds like something he'd do if he had an IQ of 60 and hadn't watched the news in months.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:50 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Biden Will Air a Nationwide Law-and-Order Ad Condemning Rioters and Looters. The ad will air in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin and will take parts of Biden's Pittsburgh Speech.

Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign unveiled a new television ad late Tuesday that packages portions of his speech on Monday in Pittsburgh condemning the sporadic violence that has erupted in some cities. The ad came as the former vice president pushes back against President Trump’s efforts to define the Democrats as a party tolerant of lawlessness.

Mr. Biden has repeatedly condemned instances in which protests for racial justice have burst into violence, accusing Mr. Trump of stoking divisions and laying blame for any chaos on the current occupant of the White House.

But the ad — part of a $45 million one-week television and digital purchase that is by far the campaign’s largest to date — is the first time that Mr. Biden has put this pushback on issues of crime and public safety into a major paid advertising program.

“I want to make it absolutely clear,” Mr. Biden says as images flash of burned-out cars and buildings and a confrontation with the police. “Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. And those who do it should be prosecuted.”

Mr. Biden casts himself as a unifying figure who would seek to “lower the temperature” of the national debate and bring the country together. The spot ends with Mr. Biden, who is Catholic, quoting the former pope, John Paul II: “Be not afraid.”

Unlike many of Mr. Biden’s recent ads, the 60-second spot does not mention the coronavirus pandemic.

The Biden campaign said the ad would air nationally on cable television and in local markets in nine battleground states: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The speech in Pittsburgh and the advertising campaign are part of Mr. Biden’s response to a Republican convention last week in which the G.O.P. tried repeatedly to twist the former vice president’s record on crime and policing, with Mr. Trump himself often amplifying the misleading claims on Twitter.

At times, the Republicans have accused Mr. Biden of being too tough on criminals, citing his role in crafting the 1994 crime bill; at others, they have accused him of coddling rioters.

“Ask yourself: Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters?” Mr. Biden said in Monday’s speech. “Really?”

He then pivoted to try to broaden the definition of safety for voters, arguing that Mr. Trump had eroded the health and economic safety of millions of Americans through his response to the coronavirus.

“I want a safe America,” Mr. Biden said. “Safe from Covid, safe from crime and looting, safe from racially motivated violence, safe from bad cops. Let me be crystal clear: safe from four more years of Donald Trump.”

The sheer size of the new advertising purchase — it is bigger than Mr. Biden’s paid-media budget during the entirety of the 2020 primaries — is a testament to how much money is pouring into the campaign.

Mr. Biden raised more than $300 million in August with the Democratic Party, according to people familiar with the matter. The exact figure is still unknown, but the total is believed to be the largest sum that any candidate has ever raised, granting the Biden campaign financial flexibility to spend so heavily on ads in early September.


In all honesty, this is a smart move on his part: he knows Trump will benefit from the violence, especially since he has tied Biden to the violence, and left unanswered. The $45 million dollar price tag too (the largest by Biden so far) should tell us why this important for him to address now and take some wind out of Trump's sails.


That doesn't take Wind out of his sails though. It's Vindication. Biden ignored the rioting until he realized it was unpopular.


He really hasn't though he has been more forceful these past few weeks in his opposition. Not to say Biden ever endorsed rioting- he never did, that's a propaganda point anyway but he should have started sooner undoubtedly. Still, Trump is still the underdog and will have to fight harder to win this time around: he doesn't have the benefit of a Clinton punching bag this go around.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:56 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Biden Will Air a Nationwide Law-and-Order Ad Condemning Rioters and Looters. The ad will air in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin and will take parts of Biden's Pittsburgh Speech.

Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign unveiled a new television ad late Tuesday that packages portions of his speech on Monday in Pittsburgh condemning the sporadic violence that has erupted in some cities. The ad came as the former vice president pushes back against President Trump’s efforts to define the Democrats as a party tolerant of lawlessness.

Mr. Biden has repeatedly condemned instances in which protests for racial justice have burst into violence, accusing Mr. Trump of stoking divisions and laying blame for any chaos on the current occupant of the White House.

But the ad — part of a $45 million one-week television and digital purchase that is by far the campaign’s largest to date — is the first time that Mr. Biden has put this pushback on issues of crime and public safety into a major paid advertising program.

“I want to make it absolutely clear,” Mr. Biden says as images flash of burned-out cars and buildings and a confrontation with the police. “Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. And those who do it should be prosecuted.”

Mr. Biden casts himself as a unifying figure who would seek to “lower the temperature” of the national debate and bring the country together. The spot ends with Mr. Biden, who is Catholic, quoting the former pope, John Paul II: “Be not afraid.”

Unlike many of Mr. Biden’s recent ads, the 60-second spot does not mention the coronavirus pandemic.

The Biden campaign said the ad would air nationally on cable television and in local markets in nine battleground states: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The speech in Pittsburgh and the advertising campaign are part of Mr. Biden’s response to a Republican convention last week in which the G.O.P. tried repeatedly to twist the former vice president’s record on crime and policing, with Mr. Trump himself often amplifying the misleading claims on Twitter.

At times, the Republicans have accused Mr. Biden of being too tough on criminals, citing his role in crafting the 1994 crime bill; at others, they have accused him of coddling rioters.

“Ask yourself: Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters?” Mr. Biden said in Monday’s speech. “Really?”

He then pivoted to try to broaden the definition of safety for voters, arguing that Mr. Trump had eroded the health and economic safety of millions of Americans through his response to the coronavirus.

“I want a safe America,” Mr. Biden said. “Safe from Covid, safe from crime and looting, safe from racially motivated violence, safe from bad cops. Let me be crystal clear: safe from four more years of Donald Trump.”

The sheer size of the new advertising purchase — it is bigger than Mr. Biden’s paid-media budget during the entirety of the 2020 primaries — is a testament to how much money is pouring into the campaign.

Mr. Biden raised more than $300 million in August with the Democratic Party, according to people familiar with the matter. The exact figure is still unknown, but the total is believed to be the largest sum that any candidate has ever raised, granting the Biden campaign financial flexibility to spend so heavily on ads in early September.


In all honesty, this is a smart move on his part: he knows Trump will benefit from the violence, especially since he has tied Biden to the violence, and left unanswered. The $45 million dollar price tag too (the largest by Biden so far) should tell us why this important for him to address now and take some wind out of Trump's sails.


That doesn't take Wind out of his sails though. It's Vindication. Biden ignored the rioting until he realized it was unpopular.

No he didn't. He's been condemning them from the start. Guy was talking about cops shooting people in the legs and about prosecuting anarchists.
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Postby Loben III » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:13 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
That doesn't take Wind out of his sails though. It's Vindication. Biden ignored the rioting until he realized it was unpopular.

No he didn't. He's been condemning them from the start. Guy was talking about cops shooting people in the legs and about prosecuting anarchists.


Goes to show what he knows about terminal ballistics.
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