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2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:57 am

Major-Tom wrote:Your least favorite pundit is here, what's good?

Dr. Robert Underwood (D) looks likely to crush Del. Michael San Nicolas (D) for the GU-AL district, so that's good.

Literally one of the scummiest members of Congress and he can't even vote all the time.
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:57 am

I realized we're hating each other more than talking about the election in this thread.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:57 am

La xinga wrote:I realized we're hating each other more than talking about the election in this thread.


Those two things generally go hand in hand.
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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:58 am

La xinga wrote:I realized we're hating each other more than talking about the election in this thread.

500 Pages Hate has concluded. Please return to your regularly scheduled political discussion.
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:00 pm

Organized States wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Your least favorite pundit is here, what's good?

Dr. Robert Underwood (D) looks likely to crush Del. Michael San Nicolas (D) for the GU-AL district, so that's good.

Literally one of the scummiest members of Congress and he can't even vote all the time.


You from Guam?

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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:02 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Organized States wrote:Dr. Robert Underwood (D) looks likely to crush Del. Michael San Nicolas (D) for the GU-AL district, so that's good.

Literally one of the scummiest members of Congress and he can't even vote all the time.


You from Guam?

I am.

And actually from there, too. I have to distinguish myself from the other members of the CHamoru diaspora (those born in San Diego, Seattle, Portland, San Antonio, etc) and the military kids.
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"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:03 pm

Organized States wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
You from Guam?

I am.

And actually from there, too. I have to distinguish myself from the other members of the CHamoru diaspora (those born in San Diego, Seattle, Portland, San Antonio, etc) and the military kids.


Very cool. I'm reading about San Nicolas, I'd never heard much of him, but yeah, he looks like a scumbag from some preliminary reading.

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Postby United States of Devonta » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:04 pm

Organized States wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
You from Guam?

I am.

And actually from there, too. I have to distinguish myself from the other members of the CHamoru diaspora (those born in San Diego, Seattle, Portland, San Antonio, etc) and the military kids.


I remember you used to be way more right-wing? What happened and how do you identify now?
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:05 pm

Post War America wrote:
San Lumen wrote:To continue what you said strikes and lobbying are well and good but when you have leaders who don’t support your agenda what does it matter?


Leaders will never support my agenda though, because it involves them losing power. In fact, history shows that they will oppose my agenda including with lethal force, or allying with outright fascists. Just as their predecessors, the landed aristocracy violently opposed the ascendancy of Liberal Democracy. It lies on myself, and others like to build a new society irrespective of what leaders think.

I also find it amusing that I need to have the support of leadership to enact my agenda when you literally call for Belorussians to do exactly what I'm doing to overthrow Lukashenko regardless of what he thinks.

Losing power how? Have you ever thought that perhaps your agenda is impractical or doesn’t have support?

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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:07 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Organized States wrote:
I am.

And actually from there, too. I have to distinguish myself from the other members of the CHamoru diaspora (those born in San Diego, Seattle, Portland, San Antonio, etc) and the military kids.


Very cool. I'm reading about San Nicolas, I'd never heard much of him, but yeah, he looks like a scumbag from some preliminary reading.

He really is. Dude rarely votes and when he does, he's almost never voting on legislation that actually matters to people. Plus, he thinks the rules don't apply to him.

Keep in mind, I'm rather close to Madeleine Bordallo both politically and socially (I really don't think I'd be where I am today without her and her office's help), so I will always hold that against him.
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"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:12 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Organized States wrote:
I am.

And actually from there, too. I have to distinguish myself from the other members of the CHamoru diaspora (those born in San Diego, Seattle, Portland, San Antonio, etc) and the military kids.


I remember you used to be way more right-wing? What happened and how do you identify now?

I chilled out, mostly. And I met a girl (trust me, it was more influential than I thought too).

I'd say I'm center-left at furthest. Not Sanders-left, probably closer to Buttigieg and Warren if anyone.
Thank God for OS!- Deian
"In the old days, the navigators used magic to make themselves strong, but now, nothing; they just pray. Before they leave and at sea, they pray. But I, I make myself strong by thinking—just by thinking! I make myself strong because I despise cowardice. Too many men are afraid of the sea. But I am a navigator."-Mau Piailug
"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Jedi Council » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:15 pm

Organized States wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
I remember you used to be way more right-wing? What happened and how do you identify now?

I chilled out, mostly. And I met a girl (trust me, it was more influential than I thought too).

I'd say I'm center-left at furthest. Not Sanders-left, probably closer to Buttigieg and Warren if anyone.

Welcome to the club.
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Postby Aureumterra » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:19 pm

La xinga wrote:I realized we're hating each other more than talking about the election in this thread.

Well yes, this is an election thread on NSG
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Postby Kowani » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:23 pm

Organized States wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
I remember you used to be way more right-wing? What happened and how do you identify now?

I chilled out, mostly. And I met a girl (trust me, it was more influential than I thought too).

I'd say I'm center-left at furthest. Not Sanders-left, probably closer to Buttigieg and Warren if anyone.

Pundits should really study the girl effect on far right voters. :p
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:26 pm

Kowani wrote:
Organized States wrote:I chilled out, mostly. And I met a girl (trust me, it was more influential than I thought too).

I'd say I'm center-left at furthest. Not Sanders-left, probably closer to Buttigieg and Warren if anyone.

Pundits should really study the girl effect on far right voters. :p


Not as big as you'd think. Tomi Lahren's a perfect case in point in that respect.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:27 pm

Kowani wrote:
Organized States wrote:I chilled out, mostly. And I met a girl (trust me, it was more influential than I thought too).

I'd say I'm center-left at furthest. Not Sanders-left, probably closer to Buttigieg and Warren if anyone.

Pundits should really study the girl effect on far right voters. :p

Clearly the Females are another tool of the Liberals to control and influence the minds of young proud men.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:28 pm

Kowani wrote:
Organized States wrote:I chilled out, mostly. And I met a girl (trust me, it was more influential than I thought too).

I'd say I'm center-left at furthest. Not Sanders-left, probably closer to Buttigieg and Warren if anyone.

Pundits should really study the girl effect on far right voters. :p


My wife is significantly further right than I am.
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-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
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-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
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-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
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Postby Organized States » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:28 pm

Kowani wrote:
Organized States wrote:I chilled out, mostly. And I met a girl (trust me, it was more influential than I thought too).

I'd say I'm center-left at furthest. Not Sanders-left, probably closer to Buttigieg and Warren if anyone.

Pundits should really study the girl effect on far right voters. :p

Eh, I was never really far-right.

I was, however, very very easily charmed.

Went vegan for a girl (briefly, different girl too, glad I didn't do it, was very toxic), learned to surf for a girl, learned to cook for a girl, became a registered Democrat for a girl...
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"I regret that I have only one life to give to my island." -Ricardo Bordallo, 2nd Governor of Guam
"Both are voyages of exploration. Hōkūle‘a is in the past, Columbia is in the future." -Colonel Charles L. Veach, USAF, Astronaut and Navigation Enthusiast

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Postby Tombradyonia » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:29 pm

I wouldn't need a girl to be an obnoxious lefty. However, I did become less obnoxious, but not less leftist :lol:
Also, having a kid helps with that. Now I have to earn my Soros checks by indoctrinating her with the liberal agenda.

Which reminds me, I still haven't received last month's check, what's up with that Georgie boy >:( ;)
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Postby United States of Devonta » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:30 pm

Organized States wrote:
Kowani wrote:Pundits should really study the girl effect on far right voters. :p

Eh, I was never really far-right.

I was, however, very very easily charmed.

Went vegan for a girl (briefly, different girl too, glad I didn't do it, was very toxic), learned to surf for a girl, learned to cook for a girl, became a registered Democrat for a girl...


Gosh, I love women.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:31 pm

Telconi wrote:
Kowani wrote:Pundits should really study the girl effect on far right voters. :p


My wife is significantly further right than I am.


Tbf some people tend to vote against their interest all the time.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:33 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Telconi wrote:
My wife is significantly further right than I am.


Tbf some people tend to vote against their interest all the time.


Nobody I've ever met.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:34 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Telconi wrote:
My wife is significantly further right than I am.


Tbf some people tend to vote against their interest all the time.


Alternatively, people have different interests.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:35 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Tbf some people tend to vote against their interest all the time.


Alternatively, people have different interests.


Imagine being so naive as to consider that people might actually have beliefs and opinions different from your own.
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-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
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-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby Asle Leopolka » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:36 pm

Telconi wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Yeah. Not even any of the new movies are any good tbh. What a year.


Maybe Dune will save us.

Spice must flow, after all.
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