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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:55 pm

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Neither of which is going to happen. Have you read his statements? He's explained clearly what his view is and why he made his decision in 2016 and why he's making his decision now. While I may not agree with what he believes, he's got this logically figured out and by what he's said - in 2016 and 2020 - he doesn't appear to be hypocritical.

Then again, if he is - are you surprised?


Which android is on your flag?


Pardon me?
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Yes, it will be the Republicans turn to pack the court, and then the voters will realise what a mess this all is and demand a constitutional amendment for structural court reform that both sides will readily agree to to deny given the other too much power including hard limits on how many justices there are, term limits, and mandatory retirement ages.

Id be ok with that. It needs reform


You'll have to be patient, this is a 10-year plan realistically.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:56 pm

Shrillland wrote:Trump's now saying his nominee will most likely be a woman and be announced next week: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/09/19/us/live-rbg-death-supreme-court/trump-says-he-expects-to-nominate-a-replacement-for-ginsburg-most-likely-a-woman-next-week

All who bet on Amy Barrett may come up and receive their winnings.


She would pull the court far to the right. I worry about LGBT rights, women's rights and the environment if she gets on the court.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:56 pm

Shrillland wrote:Trump's now saying his nominee will most likely be a woman and be announced next week: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/09/19/us/live-rbg-death-supreme-court/trump-says-he-expects-to-nominate-a-replacement-for-ginsburg-most-likely-a-woman-next-week

All who bet on Amy Barrett may come up and receive their winnings.


Interesting. I read earlier that Trumps 2018 meeting with Barrett didn't go well, there must be serious party pressure to make her the nominee.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:56 pm

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And if they don't, they can quit or get fired when they refuse to work.


and he'd have no staff.


I'm sure there's a pool of people waiting for a spot to open to get their seat working for the Senate Majority Leader. Rest assured he won't go staffless

Not to mention that you're still disillusioned thinking his staff will quit or stop working, the majority of them - if not all of them - probably support him on this.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:57 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
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Eh?


Do you live in Washington?


No
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:57 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Trump's now saying his nominee will most likely be a woman and be announced next week: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/09/19/us/live-rbg-death-supreme-court/trump-says-he-expects-to-nominate-a-replacement-for-ginsburg-most-likely-a-woman-next-week

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Interesting. I read earlier that Trumps 2018 meeting with Barrett didn't go well, there must be serious party pressure to make her the nominee.


she would not be popular with moderate Republicans thought I don't trust Collins to not cave

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:58 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Trump's now saying his nominee will most likely be a woman and be announced next week: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/09/19/us/live-rbg-death-supreme-court/trump-says-he-expects-to-nominate-a-replacement-for-ginsburg-most-likely-a-woman-next-week

All who bet on Amy Barrett may come up and receive their winnings.


Interesting. I read earlier that Trumps 2018 meeting with Barrett didn't go well, there must be serious party pressure to make her the nominee.


Well, they know that they're in bad shape and if they get her on the court quickly enough, their decades-long long game ends in victory even if they're crushed at the polls.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Interesting. I read earlier that Trumps 2018 meeting with Barrett didn't go well, there must be serious party pressure to make her the nominee.


she would not be popular with moderate Republicans thought I don't trust Collins to not cave


Quite the opposite she has immense support among pretty much every right leaning community I know of online. She offers enough to appeal to pretty much every faction.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:58 pm

Shrillland wrote:Trump's now saying his nominee will most likely be a woman and be announced next week: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/09/19/us/live-rbg-death-supreme-court/trump-says-he-expects-to-nominate-a-replacement-for-ginsburg-most-likely-a-woman-next-week

All who bet on Amy Barrett may come up and receive their winnings.


Imagine if its Jeanine Pirro lol
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:59 pm

Shrillland wrote:Trump's now saying his nominee will most likely be a woman and be announced next week: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/09/19/us/live-rbg-death-supreme-court/trump-says-he-expects-to-nominate-a-replacement-for-ginsburg-most-likely-a-woman-next-week

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Did Ginsburg belong to a party?

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:59 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
she would not be popular with moderate Republicans thought I don't trust Collins to not cave


Quite the opposite she has immense support among pretty much every right leaning community I know of online. She offers enough to appeal to pretty much every faction.


and when she overturns LGBT rights and abortion she would be so loved.

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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Trump's now saying his nominee will most likely be a woman and be announced next week: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/09/19/us/live-rbg-death-supreme-court/trump-says-he-expects-to-nominate-a-replacement-for-ginsburg-most-likely-a-woman-next-week

All who bet on Amy Barrett may come up and receive their winnings.


She would pull the court far to the right. I worry about LGBT rights, women's rights and the environment if she gets on the court.


Don't worry, the environment wasn't particularly safest in Ginsburg's hands anyway.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Quite the opposite she has immense support among pretty much every right leaning community I know of online. She offers enough to appeal to pretty much every faction.


and when she overturns LGBT rights and abortion she would be so loved.


I mean, yeah, if she overturned Roe she'd be a hero to probably a hundred million people.
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Postby Loben III » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Trump's now saying his nominee will most likely be a woman and be announced next week: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/09/19/us/live-rbg-death-supreme-court/trump-says-he-expects-to-nominate-a-replacement-for-ginsburg-most-likely-a-woman-next-week

All who bet on Amy Barrett may come up and receive their winnings.


She would pull the court far to the right. I worry about LGBT rights, women's rights and the environment if she gets on the court.


A woman against woman’s rights?
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Saint Sche Batose
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:01 pm

If Trump saved people from a plane crash in the ocean, Democrats would blame him for starving the sharks.

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Saint Sche Batose
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:02 pm

Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
She would pull the court far to the right. I worry about LGBT rights, women's rights and the environment if she gets on the court.


A woman against woman’s rights?


Just because she's Republican.

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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:02 pm

Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
She would pull the court far to the right. I worry about LGBT rights, women's rights and the environment if she gets on the court.


A woman against woman’s rights?


"Women can't be against reproductive rights!"

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:03 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
and when she overturns LGBT rights and abortion she would be so loved.


I mean, yeah, if she overturned Roe she'd be a hero to probably a hundred million people.


Doubtful. Roe has majority support as does LGBT rights. It would be very dangerous for a court to so widely out of state with public opinion.

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Postby Post War America » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Quite the opposite she has immense support among pretty much every right leaning community I know of online. She offers enough to appeal to pretty much every faction.


and when she overturns LGBT rights and abortion she would be so loved.


She would be the people relevant to her.

This is why the Democratic strategy of caving to the right has always been a bad idea. They will never care about you, they hate the fact that people like you exist. Bending over and compromising with them only hurts you.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:03 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:If Trump saved people from a plane crash in the ocean, Democrats would blame him for starving the sharks.


Probably not, but if he didn't save everybody they'd attack him for falling short or not responding effectively enough.

Come on, if you're going to criticize the Democrats, do it right. You're embarrassing the rest of us who criticize the Democrats.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:03 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:If Trump saved people from a plane crash in the ocean, Democrats would blame him for starving the sharks.


If Trump had locked down the country, we wouldn't have had to blame him for nearly 200,000 dead people.

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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:03 pm

Kannap wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:If Trump saved people from a plane crash in the ocean, Democrats would blame him for starving the sharks.


Probably not, but if he didn't save everybody they'd attack him for falling short or not responding effectively enough.

Come on, if you're going to criticize the Democrats, do it right. You're embarrassing the rest of us who criticize the Democrats.


It's the TPUSA narrative of "If ridiculous, baloney non-sequitur, then liberals must support/hate (X)!"

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Postby Post War America » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I mean, yeah, if she overturned Roe she'd be a hero to probably a hundred million people.


Doubtful. Roe has majority support as does LGBT rights. It would be very dangerous for a court to so widely out of state with public opinion.


Public opinion is irrelevant to SCOTUS rulings.
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Postby Heloin » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:04 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:If Trump saved people from a plane crash in the ocean, Democrats would blame him for starving the sharks.

The people on that plane had it coming.

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