2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[Talvezout]

Welp, Romney's communications director has said that he is open to having a floor vote.

So, Dems are back to 48 votes (47 Dems and Independents + Murkowski)

[Kowani]

Lamar Alexander is allegedly a no vote according to some tweets.

So far, Romney and Murkwoski are the two most likely no votes, with maybe Grassley. Alexander is a bit of a reach, and Collins shouldn't be trusted.

It's not gonna be easy for McConnell to thread the needle, needless to say.

Anyone hear anything on Cory Gardner?

[Dresderstan]

Lamar Alexander is allegedly a no vote according to some tweets.

So far, Romney and Murkwoski are the two most likely no votes, with maybe Grassley. Alexander is a bit of a reach, and Collins shouldn't be trusted.

It's not gonna be easy for McConnell to thread the needle, needless to say.

He's not gonna be able to do it, there's not gonna be a single Democrat to vote for it and if there is enough in the GOP to break rank that seat ain't gonna be filled until after the new year.

[Thermodolia]

McConnell says that Trump’s nominee will receive a vote.

I hope they push another justice before the election because there is a good chance that Trump will lose the election and the Republicans will lose the senate, so if another conservative is put on the court it would secure the court for at least a decade

And if they do that the democrats will pack the court. I hope you like your 6 new liberal justices.

Also the smart thing to do would be to hold off until after the election. That way Trump could make it an election issue that could favor him instead of throwing away everything and allowing the democrats to pack the courts or worse

[Kowani]

Welp, Romney's communications director has said that he is open to having a floor vote.

So, Dems are back to 48 votes (47 Dems and Independents + Murkowski)

We got a source?

[Talvezout]

Lamar Alexander is allegedly a no vote according to some tweets.

So far, Romney and Murkwoski are the two most likely no votes, with maybe Grassley. Alexander is a bit of a reach, and Collins shouldn't be trusted.

It's not gonna be easy for McConnell to thread the needle, needless to say.

He's not gonna be able to do it, there's not gonna be a single Democrat to vote for it and if there is enough in the GOP to break rank that seat ain't gonna be filled until after the new year.

Even if McConnell gets a justice confirmed, it basically means the GOP is gonna be SOL for 2020 and potentially 2022. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if enough Dems try to force Biden's hand to pack the courts and eliminate the filibuster.

Welp, Romney's communications director has said that he is open to having a floor vote.

So, Dems are back to 48 votes (47 Dems and Independents + Murkowski)

We got a source?

https://twitter.com/LJ0hnson/status/1307129082971385858

[Thermodolia]

Lamar Alexander is allegedly a no vote according to some tweets.

So far, Romney and Murkwoski are the two most likely no votes, with maybe Grassley. Alexander is a bit of a reach, and Collins shouldn't be trusted.

It's not gonna be easy for McConnell to thread the needle, needless to say.

Graham could be a wait until the election vote as well.

[Talvezout]

Actblue has raised at least 2 million dollars in the last 30 minutes. Wouldn't be surprised if they hit a new record tonight.

[Cannot think of a name]

Ah booo. Biden broke the seal. In his remarks he's talking about how they should delay nomination. He shouldn't have been the one to break the seal.

[Kexholm and Karelia]

What was that about not introducing politics?

That was the other thread, here he's a totally different person and the rules do not apply!

I will not politicize the death of RBG, but her replacement is definitely a political issue that can’t be avoided

[Kowani]

He's not gonna be able to do it, there's not gonna be a single Democrat to vote for it and if there is enough in the GOP to break rank that seat ain't gonna be filled until after the new year.

Even if McConnell gets a justice confirmed, it basically means the GOP is gonna be SOL for 2020 and potentially 2022. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if enough Dems try to force Biden's hand to pack the courts and eliminate the filibuster.

We got a source?

https://twitter.com/LJ0hnson/status/1307129082971385858

Well fuck me

[The Black Forrest]

Ah booo. Biden broke the seal. In his remarks he's talking about how they should delay nomination. He shouldn't have been the one to break the seal.

What seal? Old McC has already announced he will force through anybody Trump (meaning himself) suggests.

[Ngelmish]

Lamar Alexander is allegedly a no vote according to some tweets.

So far, Romney and Murkwoski are the two most likely no votes, with maybe Grassley. Alexander is a bit of a reach, and Collins shouldn't be trusted.

It's not gonna be easy for McConnell to thread the needle, needless to say.

Graham could be a wait until the election vote as well.

Graham will think he has more to lose from not going all in on Trump's nominee. I think that's reading the situation wrong, but he'll calculate that he can't afford to hemorrhage any of the MAGA voters. And I'm pretty certain that that will be the takeaway of every other senator in a remotely challenging race. It'll be Romney and Murkowski at best.

[Zurkerx]

Crossposting.

So that’s two. Grassley and Collins are suspected to do the same. Graham might also considering that he’s in hot water atm

It's tough to say: Republicans I think will try to ram although we always talk about Republicans: we need to keep our eyes on Manchin, the most conservative Democrat in the Senate. So, even if four Republicans said no and Manchin says yes, that's a tie-breaking vote by Pence then. Either way, this is going to be a blood bath, and my family is thrilled that Ginsburg is finally gone so they can't want to have a 6-3 court.

Welp, Romney's communications director has said that he is open to having a floor vote.

So, Dems are back to 48 votes (47 Dems and Independents + Murkowski)

That's just holding a vote on the floor: that doesn't mean he'll vote for the nominee;he's already stated he won't. But all nominees, barring any major liability to them, should at least get a hearing and vote. That didn't happen with Garland of course, but us "institutionalists" would have like to see that.

Hmm, okay, it seems he hasn't confirm or deny how he'll vote but I suspect he'll be a "no" vote.

[Talvezout]

The main worry I have is that they're gonna hold the vote in December - basically means that Collins, Gardner, etc all have the reign to vote for the nominee, even if they lose or not. Even if Murkowski and Romney vote no, with Mark Kelly being sworn in early, that's only 50 votes - Pence steps in and breaks the tie.

[Kowani]

So that’s two. Grassley and Collins are suspected to do the same. Graham might also considering that he’s in hot water atm

It's tough to say: Republicans I think will try to ram although we always talk about Republicans: we need to keep our eyes on Manchin, the most conservative Democrat in the Senate. So, even if four Republicans said no and Manchin says yes, that's a tie-breaking vote by Pence then. Either way, this is going to be a blood bath, and my family is thrilled that Ginsburg is finally gone so they can't want to have a 6-3 court.

Welp, Romney's communications director has said that he is open to having a floor vote.

So, Dems are back to 48 votes (47 Dems and Independents + Murkowski)

That's just holding a vote on the floor: that doesn't mean he'll vote for the nominee;he's already stated he won't. But all nominees, barring any major liability to them, should at least get a hearing and vote. That didn't happen with Garland of course, but us "institutionalists" would have like to see that.

Hmm, okay, it seems he hasn't confirm or deny how he'll vote but I suspect he'll be a "no" vote.

If we lose a SCOTUS seat because of Joe fucking Manchin I will actually throw a table.

[Talvezout]

It's tough to say: Republicans I think will try to ram although we always talk about Republicans: we need to keep our eyes on Manchin, the most conservative Democrat in the Senate. So, even if four Republicans said no and Manchin says yes, that's a tie-breaking vote by Pence then. Either way, this is going to be a blood bath, and my family is thrilled that Ginsburg is finally gone so they can't want to have a 6-3 court.



That's just holding a vote on the floor: that doesn't mean he'll vote for the nominee;he's already stated he won't. But all nominees, barring any major liability to them, should at least get a hearing and vote. That didn't happen with Garland of course, but us "institutionalists" would have like to see that.

Hmm, okay, it seems he hasn't confirm or deny how he'll vote but I suspect he'll be a "no" vote.

If we lose a SCOTUS seat because of Joe fucking Manchin I will actually throw a table.

I can't imagine Manchin will vote yes; he voted for Trump's impeachment, something that would actually harm him more then the SCOTUS. Plus, with his age, he probably won't be running again in 2024.

[Thermodolia]

The main worry I have is that they're gonna hold the vote in December - basically means that Collins, Gardner, etc all have the reign to vote for the nominee, even if they lose or not. Even if Murkowski and Romney vote no, with Mark Kelly being sworn in early, that's only 50 votes - Pence steps in and breaks the tie.

Depends. If Warnock wins in Georgia replacing Isakson he could be sworn in early as well giving the democrats another vote.

The DNC is reportedly telling all other democrats to drop out of that race and endorse Warnock

[Zurkerx]

It's tough to say: Republicans I think will try to ram although we always talk about Republicans: we need to keep our eyes on Manchin, the most conservative Democrat in the Senate. So, even if four Republicans said no and Manchin says yes, that's a tie-breaking vote by Pence then. Either way, this is going to be a blood bath, and my family is thrilled that Ginsburg is finally gone so they can't want to have a 6-3 court.



That's just holding a vote on the floor: that doesn't mean he'll vote for the nominee;he's already stated he won't. But all nominees, barring any major liability to them, should at least get a hearing and vote. That didn't happen with Garland of course, but us "institutionalists" would have like to see that.

Hmm, okay, it seems he hasn't confirm or deny how he'll vote but I suspect he'll be a "no" vote.

If we lose a SCOTUS seat because of Joe fucking Manchin I will actually throw a table.

Well, he was the key vote that confirmed Kavanaugh 50-48 so don't be too surprised though he may not vote for said nominee due to it being an election year. Right now though, things need to simmer down a bit so we can get an idea what will happen though I think we'll be looking at a 6-3 Court, which would set many issues Democrats hold dearly back for at least a decade.

[Talvezout]

The main worry I have is that they're gonna hold the vote in December - basically means that Collins, Gardner, etc all have the reign to vote for the nominee, even if they lose or not. Even if Murkowski and Romney vote no, with Mark Kelly being sworn in early, that's only 50 votes - Pence steps in and breaks the tie.

Depends. If Warnock wins in Georgia replacing Isakson he could be sworn in early as well giving the democrats another vote.

The DNC is reportedly telling all other democrats to drop out of that race and endorse Warnock

I'm still upset over the fact they didn't do this back in the summer when Warnock announced. If the runoff ends up being Collins/Loeffler with Lieberman, or god forbid, Collins and Loeffler, I will seriously throw a boot at the DNC.

[Sundiata]

It's tough to say: Republicans I think will try to ram although we always talk about Republicans: we need to keep our eyes on Manchin, the most conservative Democrat in the Senate. So, even if four Republicans said no and Manchin says yes, that's a tie-breaking vote by Pence then. Either way, this is going to be a blood bath, and my family is thrilled that Ginsburg is finally gone so they can't want to have a 6-3 court.



That's just holding a vote on the floor: that doesn't mean he'll vote for the nominee;he's already stated he won't. But all nominees, barring any major liability to them, should at least get a hearing and vote. That didn't happen with Garland of course, but us "institutionalists" would have like to see that.

Hmm, okay, it seems he hasn't confirm or deny how he'll vote but I suspect he'll be a "no" vote.

If we lose a SCOTUS seat because of Joe fucking Manchin I will actually throw a table.

We already lost the public option because of Joe Lieberman.

With respect to the Supreme Court seat, I imagine that President Trump will attempt to appoint a new Supreme Court Justice before the next election upon the direction of Mitch Mcconnell.

[Dresderstan]

If we lose a SCOTUS seat because of Joe fucking Manchin I will actually throw a table.

Well, he was the key vote that confirmed Kavanaugh 50-48 so don't be too surprised though he may not vote for said nominee due to it being an election year. Right now though, things need to simmer down a bit so we can get an idea what will happen though I think we'll be looking at a 6-3 Court, which would set many issues Democrats hold dearly back for at least a decade.

I don't think we'll get a nominee this year, and it'll be a 5-4 Court for the next decade or so, unless in that time another justice does pass.

[Talvezout]

I wouldn't be surprised if the whole process of finding a replacement for RBG will be the dam-burst of the Senate.

[Shrillland]

Well, he was the key vote that confirmed Kavanaugh 50-48 so don't be too surprised though he may not vote for said nominee due to it being an election year. Right now though, things need to simmer down a bit so we can get an idea what will happen though I think we'll be looking at a 6-3 Court, which would set many issues Democrats hold dearly back for at least a decade.

I don't think we'll get a nominee this year, and it'll be a 5-4 Court for the next decade or so, unless in that time another justice does pass.

Trump's already said he'll announce a nominee in the coming days.

[Dresderstan]

I don't think we'll get a nominee this year, and it'll be a 5-4 Court for the next decade or so, unless in that time another justice does pass.

Trump's already said he'll announce a nominee in the coming days.

Even if he does, the Dems and some GOP senators like Romney will not budge, I'm telling you that seat will be open till next year, watch.