2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[Shrillland]

If Trumps nominee is confirmed they should.

Am I hearing 11 justices? How about 13? 15 going, 17, let's see 19, 21 justices! The skies the limit!

Like I said, we only need to see two rounds of packing to get constitutional changes to set hard limits on both the number of justices and the length of their tenures.

[Kannap]

2020 has all the feeling that 2016 did (for good or ill).

It’s officially the worst year ever

I can easily think of many years in history that were worse, but go off.

[The Black Forrest]

Is this thread having another one of those days?

Has there been a thread which hasn’t?

[Kannap]

Am I hearing 11 justices? How about 13? 15 going, 17, let's see 19, 21 justices! The skies the limit!

Write the Judiciary Act to expand the Court and then write a Constitutional amendment locking the door at 11 and set term limits of 15-20 years.

12 years, max. Even that feels too long.

But we've not even term limited Congress yet, so I'm not getting my hopes up.

[No State Here]

Since Biden helped get conservative justices Scalia and Thomas onto the Supreme Court back when he was a senator, I still see no reason to believe any future SC picks he might make if he wins would be good.

Both of Trumps picks so far have been good, why would a third one suddenly be bad?

I actually agree, for how shitty and undemocratic his actions are, his Supreme Court picks have actually been pretty good

Still I doubt any justice can get worse than Ginsburg, who has spent a good amount of her career trying her hardest to deny Americans the right to bear arms

[Kannap]

And then the GOP will expand it to 23 and undo everything you did. What then?

23 justices? Thats unlikely to ever happen.

If the Dems don't expand the court, sure, it's unlikely. If Dems do pack the court, expect Republicans to do it more viciously.

[Heloin]

Is this thread having another one of those days?

[Thermodolia]

Write the Judiciary Act to expand the Court and then write a Constitutional amendment locking the door at 11 and set term limits of 15-20 years.

12 years, max. Even that feels too long.

But we've not even term limited Congress yet, so I'm not getting my hopes up.

I quite like the every American citizens is a justice idea.

Would really make the Bush V Gore case interesting

[Heloin]

In theory we could

Just make all 300 million Americans Supreme Court justices.

We can pass a law so that at birth, you're an American citizen and a Supreme Court justice.

Every man a king, every child a Supreme Court Justice.

[No State Here]

I never understood why it’s taboo to criticize people just because they died, Ginsburg was easily one of the worst justices of all time, she had no respect for the constitutionally sanctioned right to bear arms, and tried time and time again to undermine the fundamental rights of all Americans to own guns

The one track mind strikes again.

Without the 2A none of the other amendments are enforceable. Remember, the constitution is a document giving the people the power to enforce their rights on the state, not the other way around

[The Black Forrest]

12 years, max. Even that feels too long.

But we've not even term limited Congress yet, so I'm not getting my hopes up.

I quite like the every American citizens is a justice idea.

Would really make the Bush V Gore case interesting

Oh god no. Just listening to people talk about politics and what this country needs makes me think democracy is a bad idea.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

12 years, max. Even that feels too long.

But we've not even term limited Congress yet, so I'm not getting my hopes up.

I quite like the every American citizens is a justice idea.

Would really make the Bush V Gore case interesting

Give everyone a "justice pad" tablet to vote "yea" or "nay" and boom, justice is served.

[Thermodolia]

I quite like the every American citizens is a justice idea.

Would really make the Bush V Gore case interesting

Oh god no. Just listening to people talk about politics and what this country needs makes me think democracy is a bad idea.

Hey you’d never have to worry about the court making a decision that the majority of Americans are against

[No State Here]

Oh god no. Just listening to people talk about politics and what this country needs makes me think democracy is a bad idea.

Hey you’d never have to worry about the court making a decision that the majority of Americans are against

The reason the court exists is to prevent that. Tyranny of the majority is very much a thing

If 51% of the country wanted to genocide the other 49% of the country, they would have have the power to do so

[The Black Forrest]

Oh god no. Just listening to people talk about politics and what this country needs makes me think democracy is a bad idea.

Hey you’d never have to worry about the court making a decision that the majority of Americans are against

I KNEW IT! You are secretly an ancap!

[Bienenhalde]

The one track mind strikes again.

Without the 2A none of the other amendments are enforceable. Remember, the constitution is a document giving the people the power to enforce their rights on the state, not the other way around

If the 2nd Amendment is so great, then why are democracies in Europe and East Asia that don't have it more stable and functional than ours?

[Shrillland]

Without the 2A none of the other amendments are enforceable. Remember, the constitution is a document giving the people the power to enforce their rights on the state, not the other way around

If the 2nd Amendment is so great, then why are democracies in Europe and East Asia that don't have it more stable and functional than ours?

It's a cultural thing. They don't have the same emphasis in hyper-individualism as we have, the same root cause of us not having a proper welfare state. Also, because our constitution was the first, it doesn't have a lot of the safeguards against any potential flaws that most of theirs have. No other major democracy has a concept of executive privilege to the extent we do, for example.

[Telconi]

Am I hearing 11 justices? How about 13? 15 going, 17, let's see 19, 21 justices! The skies the limit!

Like I said, we only need to see two rounds of packing to get constitutional changes to set hard limits on both the number of justices and the length of their tenures.

We'll never get it, there's no reason for a party to ratify a locking amendment when the court just got packed by their enemies.

[Telconi]

Without the 2A none of the other amendments are enforceable. Remember, the constitution is a document giving the people the power to enforce their rights on the state, not the other way around

If the 2nd Amendment is so great, then why are democracies in Europe and East Asia that don't have it more stable and functional than ours?

If freedom of religion is so great, then why are theocratic dictatorships in the middle east more stable and functional than our countries?

[Shrillland]

Like I said, we only need to see two rounds of packing to get constitutional changes to set hard limits on both the number of justices and the length of their tenures.

We'll never get it, there's no reason for a party to ratify a locking amendment when the court just got packed by their enemies.

No, but when both sides experience the pain and see a problem, then the opportunity for a solution arises. It's the same thing that led to most of the 20th century's amendments being ratified.

[Telconi]

We'll never get it, there's no reason for a party to ratify a locking amendment when the court just got packed by their enemies.

No, but when both sides experience the pain and see a problem, then the opportunity for a solution arises. It's the same thing that led to most of the 20th century's amendments being ratified.

But why implement the solution when you're behind?

[Thermodolia]

Like I said, we only need to see two rounds of packing to get constitutional changes to set hard limits on both the number of justices and the length of their tenures.

We'll never get it, there's no reason for a party to ratify a locking amendment when the court just got packed by their enemies.

That’s why you pack the court and then ratify the amendment. That way your party remains in constitutional control

[No State Here]

Without the 2A none of the other amendments are enforceable. Remember, the constitution is a document giving the people the power to enforce their rights on the state, not the other way around

If the 2nd Amendment is so great, then why are democracies in Europe and East Asia that don't have it more stable and functional than ours?

If freedom of speech is so great, then why is China more stable and fucntional than us?

Checkmate guntards!

[Kannap]

Like I said, we only need to see two rounds of packing to get constitutional changes to set hard limits on both the number of justices and the length of their tenures.

We'll never get it, there's no reason for a party to ratify a locking amendment when the court just got packed by their enemies.

Unless the losing party sees the potential for more harm. Following FDR's four wins, Republicans proposed the amendment that limited presidents to two terms. While it was intended to be a mockery of FDR's legacy, Democrats overwhelmingly supported the amendment because they were afraid of a Republican president serving for 12 or more years.

[Telconi]

We'll never get it, there's no reason for a party to ratify a locking amendment when the court just got packed by their enemies.

That’s why you pack the court and then ratify the amendment. That way your party remains in constitutional control

Luckily no party has close to the control necessary to ratify an amendment. If that ever happens we're finished.