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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:16 pm

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Asle Leopolka wrote:Joe Biden's team brings official campaign signs to 'Animal Crossing'



Interesting strategy. I doubt they'll pull in many new voters with this, as it looks like most players are not eligible to vote or are already on team D, but it's definitely a novel approach.

This kinda feels like the 2020 version of Hillary's "Pokemon Go to the polls" to me.


Except New Horizons has more cultural relevance than Pokemon Go could ever dream of.

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:17 pm

Now for the next call:

Dem MA-8(Boston Central-Quincy-Brockton): Stephen Lynch
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Kiu Ghesik wrote:He, along with Khrushchev, helped push it to the brink both of those two times.

Khrushchev was a clown, and a hilariously incompetent one at that. People praise him solely for not being Stalin, but looking at him alone, from an objective perspective, he was a terrible leader.

Kennedy on the other hand managed to keep communism contained, as well as allow West Berlin to survive, even though Reagan delivered the knockout punch to communism, Kennedy stopped it before it got out of hand, once it spread to China, it may as well have continued onwards to the rest of Asia and Africa


Reagan didn't deliver the KO punch to the Soviets, the Soviets did that.
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Kiu Ghesik wrote:He, along with Khrushchev, helped push it to the brink both of those two times.

Khrushchev was a clown, and a hilariously incompetent one at that. People praise him solely for not being Stalin, but looking at him alone, from an objective perspective, he was a terrible leader.

Kennedy on the other hand managed to keep communism contained, as well as allow West Berlin to survive, even though Reagan delivered the knockout punch to communism, Kennedy stopped it before it got out of hand, once it spread to China, it may as well have continued onwards to the rest of Asia and Africa

I would argue that the good ol' S.U. gave itself the knockout punch, but the stated figures certainly helped. However, IMO the policy of containment in its existing form was worthless. The only nations that were actually showing signs of gravitating towards the Communists were poor, underdeveloped, and largely agrarian. Take North Vietnam as an example of that. A better policy of containment would have been to establish good relations with those countries and prevent them from deciding the communists were a viable alternative, if it was so important a thing to do.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:22 pm

Ooof... the Markey vs Kennedy primary results are not getting any closer.
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Postby Post War America » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:24 pm

Liriena wrote:Ooof... the Markey vs Kennedy primary results are not getting any closer.


Something tells me we've gone through most of the Kennedy friendly districts.
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Isn’t this race just progressive AOC type person vs. progressive AOC type person with the name "Kennedy?"
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:25 pm

Post War America wrote:
Liriena wrote:Ooof... the Markey vs Kennedy primary results are not getting any closer.


Something tells me we've gone through most of the Kennedy friendly districts.


Its over at this point. Markey won

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:25 pm

Post War America wrote:
Liriena wrote:Ooof... the Markey vs Kennedy primary results are not getting any closer.


Something tells me we've gone through most of the Kennedy friendly districts.


I'm not sure of that. His own district's barely reported, neither have Suffolk nor Norfolk Counties.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:26 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Isn’t this race just progressive AOC type person vs. progressive AOC type person with the name "Kennedy?"


Not quite. Kennedy's not as far left as Markey and is sceptical of the GND whilst Markey's the one who drafted the Senate version of the GND.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:27 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Isn’t this race just progressive AOC type person vs. progressive AOC type person with the name "Kennedy?"

Considering that Kennedy had Pelosi's endorsement, while Markey had AOC's... nope.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:28 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Isn’t this race just progressive AOC type person vs. progressive AOC type person with the name "Kennedy?"


Not quite. Kennedy's not as far left as Markey and is sceptical of the GND whilst Markey's the one who drafted the Senate version of the GND.


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Postby Post War America » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:28 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Isn’t this race just progressive AOC type person vs. progressive AOC type person with the name "Kennedy?"


Kind of, its more a race of a progressive AOC person, and a politically malleable person who happens to see that progressive politics are more favored in Massachusetts, who happens to have the name Kennedy.
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Postby Post War America » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Post War America wrote:
Something tells me we've gone through most of the Kennedy friendly districts.


Its over at this point. Markey won


You won't hear me complain about that.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:30 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Isn’t this race just progressive AOC type person vs. progressive AOC type person with the name "Kennedy?"

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:30 pm

Another call to make:

Dem MA-1(Springfield-Berkshires): Richard Neal
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:32 pm

Shrillland wrote:Another call to make:

Dem MA-1(Springfield-Berkshires): Richard Neal


Doesn't that district include the Berkshires? Beautiful area. I used to go on a religious retreat there when i was in elementary and middle school

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Postby Post War America » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:34 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Another call to make:

Dem MA-1(Springfield-Berkshires): Richard Neal


Doesn't that district include the Berkshires? Beautiful area. I used to go on a religious retreat there when i was in elementary and middle school


It includes some of them yes, the northern Berkshires are part of the 2nd District.
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Doesn't that district include the Berkshires? Beautiful area. I used to go on a religious retreat there when i was in elementary and middle school


It includes some of them yes, the northern Berkshires are part of the 2nd District.

The camp was in Great Barrington so its likely in first district

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Post War America wrote:
It includes some of them yes, the northern Berkshires are part of the 2nd District.

The camp was in Great Barrington so its likely in first district


Yeah, its not a straight slash across the Western part of the state, on account of needing to dilute conservative votes in North Central Mass with votes from the Valley. So I'm almost certain GB is in the 1st.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:41 pm

Post War America wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The camp was in Great Barrington so its likely in first district


Yeah, its not a straight slash across the Western part of the state, on account of needing to dilute conservative votes in North Central Mass with votes from the Valley. So I'm almost certain GB is in the 1st.

Its fairly close to the border with Connecticut so I will second that.

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:41 pm

Post War America wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The camp was in Great Barrington so its likely in first district


Yeah, its not a straight slash across the Western part of the state, on account of needing to dilute conservative votes in North Central Mass with votes from the Valley. So I'm almost certain GB is in the 1st.


Yep. So saith Govtrack.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:44 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Post War America wrote:
Yeah, its not a straight slash across the Western part of the state, on account of needing to dilute conservative votes in North Central Mass with votes from the Valley. So I'm almost certain GB is in the 1st.


Yep. So saith Govtrack.

though I just looked at the map and it appears the entire Berkshire range is the in the district. I could be wrong though.

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a Kennedy lost?

another tragedy to add to the list.


At least this Kennedy isn't a drunk or a rapist. He's just an entitled brat.
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a Kennedy lost?

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