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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:44 pm

Tombradyonia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:63% of those between 18-34 view BLM favorably.

Unless you have other verifiable information.


Nice that it is actually that high, looks like right wing billionaires have a lot more astroturfing to do amongst younger people.

Is that the new boogeyman?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:57 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:They workshoped a lot of terrible names before they settled on Gen X. We were latchkey kids for a while. It's one of those things that's more useful than its detractors would suggest and not as useful as is sometimes implied.

The baby boomers having such an easy event that defines their generation and being self absorbed exaggerated the generational thing. People have always 'kids these days' but even the Beat Generation was seen as a novelty and not The Blanket Term that Defines Everyone too young for WWII, too old for Korea. But since society began and ended with Boomers, now we have to parse all this shit.


Well I didn't. I don't really go in for group think or mob rule, labels and stuff. More to the point, re-litigating all this is futile. What matters is now and the future. What I perceive to have become true is basically this... now bear with me... you've seen these studied in the US about happiness and income level, right? They show the amount of income over $75,000 a person earns does not necessarily make them any more happy, but tends to decrease happiness. Well, paralleling that there's a certain amount of technology that makes human beings happy also. And similarly to income, an excessive of it does not increase happiness, but rather decreases it. I think we have reached that excess point. Now don't be calling me a Luddite bc that's old terminology. You need a new label for this. :lol:

It's a little glib and not at all what's being discussed by referring to it as 'group think' but that's neither here nor there. Congratulations on being the only free thinker on the internet, I guess.

Kind of think that term was specifically designed for people who have an arbitrary cut off for technology that sits somewhere between the plow and transhumanism, but you do you.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:59 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Tombradyonia wrote:
Nice that it is actually that high, looks like right wing billionaires have a lot more astroturfing to do amongst younger people.

Is that the new boogeyman?

You know, when the leader of the Republican party is creating new ones daily in front of cameras this kind of dismissiveness really rings hollow.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:33 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Well I didn't. I don't really go in for group think or mob rule, labels and stuff. More to the point, re-litigating all this is futile. What matters is now and the future. What I perceive to have become true is basically this... now bear with me... you've seen these studied in the US about happiness and income level, right? They show the amount of income over $75,000 a person earns does not necessarily make them any more happy, but tends to decrease happiness. Well, paralleling that there's a certain amount of technology that makes human beings happy also. And similarly to income, an excessive of it does not increase happiness, but rather decreases it. I think we have reached that excess point. Now don't be calling me a Luddite bc that's old terminology. You need a new label for this. :lol:

It's a little glib and not at all what's being discussed by referring to it as 'group think' but that's neither here nor there. Congratulations on being the only free thinker on the internet, I guess.

Kind of think that term was specifically designed for people who have an arbitrary cut off for technology that sits somewhere between the plow and transhumanism, but you do you.


Sounds like you might hate the idea of limitations... but i kinda expected that. Well, whatever gets y'all home safe at night, Adam. Players today gotta catch them all, even if it means they catch nothing irl. Me being me again. :eek:
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:35 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:Lol this reminds me of when Fortnite put up a Black Lives Matter screen, and everyone was throwing tomatoes at it, Pewdiepie even encouraged that

Doesn’t help that Fortnite put a tomato vending machine right next to it

It’s almost like they put it there for the sole purpose of trolling, Tim Sweeney is a chad

Surprised the right are out here supporting China-owned Fortnite.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:35 pm

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Aureumterra wrote:Doesn’t help that Fortnite put a tomato vending machine right next to it

It’s almost like they put it there for the sole purpose of trolling, Tim Sweeney is a chad

Surprised the right are out here supporting China-owned Fortnite.

Since when did I become representative of "The right?"
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:37 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Surprised the right are out here supporting China-owned Fortnite.

Since when did I become representative of "The right?"

When you actually made a right-wing argument and defended it, unlike certain others who just repeat the same talking points on loop.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:38 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Surprised the right are out here supporting China-owned Fortnite.

Since when did I become representative of "The right?"

I wasn't referring to you alone.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:39 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Since when did I become representative of "The right?"

When you actually made a right-wing argument and defended it, unlike certain others who just repeat the same talking points on loop.

I am right wing, but others on the right would be disgusted at my views, basically "the right" is a very stupid term that doesn’t mean anything except a broad generalization… similar to "the left"
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:40 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:When you actually made a right-wing argument and defended it, unlike certain others who just repeat the same talking points on loop.

I am right wing, but others on the right would be disgusted at my views, basically "the right" is a very stupid term that doesn’t mean anything except a broad generalization… similar to "the left"

Yeah, it's up there with everyone posting 8Values like it's anything beyond answering a bunch of hot takes with your opinion, selected from a number of preexisting ones, and then being given a result that supposedly means something based off of that.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:07 pm

:blush:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:It's a little glib and not at all what's being discussed by referring to it as 'group think' but that's neither here nor there. Congratulations on being the only free thinker on the internet, I guess.

Kind of think that term was specifically designed for people who have an arbitrary cut off for technology that sits somewhere between the plow and transhumanism, but you do you.


Sounds like you might hate the idea of limitations... but i kinda expected that. Well, whatever gets y'all home safe at night, Adam. Players today gotta catch them all, even if it means they catch nothing irl. Me being me again. :eek:

Drunk?
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:08 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:When you actually made a right-wing argument and defended it, unlike certain others who just repeat the same talking points on loop.

I am right wing, but others on the right would be disgusted at my views, basically "the right" is a very stupid term that doesn’t mean anything except a broad generalization… similar to "the left"


You make a good point. There's no validity in these sorts of labels.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:12 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote::blush:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Sounds like you might hate the idea of limitations... but i kinda expected that. Well, whatever gets y'all home safe at night, Adam. Players today gotta catch them all, even if it means they catch nothing irl. Me being me again. :eek:

Drunk?

Swiss Miss. Maybe some Bailey's got snuck in there. ;)
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:13 pm

I'm voting for President Stuart and Vice President Montrose, with their cabinet to be composed of Grant, MacKenzie, MacKay, MacDonald, Cameron, MacIntosh, MacGregor, MacPherson, MacLaughlin, MacLean, MacDougal, MacNeil, Gordon, Fraser, and Graham.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:14 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:I'm voting for President Stuart and Vice President Montrose, with their cabinet to be composed of Grant, MacKenzie, MacKay, MacDonald, Cameron, MacIntosh, MacGregor, MacPherson, MacLaughlin, MacLean, MacDougal, MacNeil, Gordon, Fraser, and Graham.

The last three were unexpected
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:15 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:I'm voting for President Stuart and Vice President Montrose, with their cabinet to be composed of Grant, MacKenzie, MacKay, MacDonald, Cameron, MacIntosh, MacGregor, MacPherson, MacLaughlin, MacLean, MacDougal, MacNeil, Gordon, Fraser, and Graham.

The last three were unexpected


Why? Did I get my Jacobite clans mixed up?
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Postby Loben III » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:24 pm

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Aureumterra wrote:The last three were unexpected


Why? Did I get my Jacobite clans mixed up?


JACOBITES!?

and probably.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:30 pm

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Why? Did I get my Jacobite clans mixed up?


JACOBITES!?

and probably.


"Stuart" and "Montrose" should have given that away.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:47 pm

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Loben III wrote:
JACOBITES!?

and probably.


"Stuart" and "Montrose" should have given that away.


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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:50 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
"Stuart" and "Montrose" should have given that away.


They are Americans. History like geography is unknown to them.

Hey! We know history! We know the only history that matters: 'Murican history!
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Polls are now closed in Massachusetts.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:00 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
"Stuart" and "Montrose" should have given that away.


They are Americans. History like geography is unknown to them.

Who?
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Postby Cordel One » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:02 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
"Stuart" and "Montrose" should have given that away.


They are Americans. History like geography is unknown to them.

I'm almost postitive that's why so many people are so patriotic about this place

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:03 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
"Stuart" and "Montrose" should have given that away.


They are Americans. History like geography is unknown to them.


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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:19 pm

Shrillland wrote:Polls are now closed in Massachusetts.


Kennedy and Markey will be the big one to watch for. Markey will probably win due to a recent surge in support. Currently Markey leads Kennedy 51.3% to 48.7%
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