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Women's football poll! What are your thoughts on the future and growth of women's football?

Women's football is on the right track and as people take a greater interest in the sport and attendance rises, so do sponsorships and women's pay.
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I think it has a lot of potential, but we must not get ahead of ourselves and think that it's going to explode in popularity in just one or two years.
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I don't envision women's football climbing much higher, and if it does, it's only baby steps as women's football struggle to gain traction and attention.
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:13 am

BOLGANO wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:In more real terms, I wonder how much leeway the EPL will get with regards to European players after Brexit and the work permit system. Will it be more lenient than for non-EU players, or the same level, in which case we'll have to rely more on home grown talent?

Premier League only with local players? teams with more international players will level down (Liverpool, Chelsea, etc.) while those with more English will not have much change, believe me a long time ago I thought what would happen if all players must play to their country of origin.

Existing players will be fine, they already have the work permits.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:36 am

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I imagine they're quite useful for balancing when you're moving quickly, for gaining a bit of leverage in aerial battles bad suchlike. In many countries there might also be legal issues with putting that clause into the contracts.


No worries, once the ECHR jurisdiction does not contain the UK anymore, EPL clubs can do this to their players :)

Britain needs to leave the Council of Europe for that.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:37 am

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No worries, once the ECHR jurisdiction does not contain the UK anymore, EPL clubs can do this to their players :)

Britain needs to leave the Council of Europe for that.


Yes, I know, give it time.
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Postby Stellonia » Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:22 pm

BOLGANO wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:In more real terms, I wonder how much leeway the EPL will get with regards to European players after Brexit and the work permit system. Will it be more lenient than for non-EU players, or the same level, in which case we'll have to rely more on home grown talent?

Premier League only with local players? teams with more international players will level down (Liverpool, Chelsea, etc.) while those with more English will not have much change, believe me a long time ago I thought what would happen if all players must play to their country of origin.

If there were any rigid restrictions on foreign players in UEFA, they should at least be universal. For example, in the Asian Champions League, only four players in each squad can be foreign, and only three from outside of Asia, regardless of domestic foreign player restrictions.

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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:06 am

Stellonia wrote:
BOLGANO wrote:Premier League only with local players? teams with more international players will level down (Liverpool, Chelsea, etc.) while those with more English will not have much change, believe me a long time ago I thought what would happen if all players must play to their country of origin.

If there were any rigid restrictions on foreign players in UEFA, they should at least be universal. For example, in the Asian Champions League, only four players in each squad can be foreign, and only three from outside of Asia, regardless of domestic foreign player restrictions.

UEFA comps and them Prem to do operate homegrown talent rules which are universal.
The thing about work permit rules differentiating between EU and non-EU citizens means that it's really easy to fill your squad with EU players one you're above the homegrown rule. If you start applying the work permit rules, which require the foreign player to either be an international player or really expensive, to EU players, you start locking the poorer teams out of buying the EU players who would've qualified.

For example, under work permit rules, Leicester would not have been able to sign N'golo Kanté. Which, let's be honest, would have stopped them from getting the PL title.
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Postby Minoa » Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:27 pm

I think the UK will stay in the Council of Europe: even Russia is in (they recently got their voting rights back), but that’s for another thread.

I think foreign players are here to stay in the Premier League, because there is a lot to lose from restricting foreign players: their presence contributes to the fact that the Premier League is the most-watched sports league in the world.
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Postby Minoa » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:56 pm

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51155753

I doubt that Pep Guardiola would have left the club, mainly because the situation at Manchester City is nothing like what is going on at Highbury. Arsenal is only 7 points above the relegation zone, and they have to start winning matches again to allay fears of relegation.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:35 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/spor ... e-ban.html

Manchester City, the reigning Premier League champion, has been barred from the Champions League for the next two seasons for “serious breaches” of European soccer’s financial regulations. The club has also been fined 30 million euros ($32.5 million).

Manchester City had sought to short circuit the investigation by financial regulators at UEFA — and preserve its place in the Champions League, European soccer’s richest competition and the trophy the club covets most — by appealing to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. But in November the court rejected the appeal, in which City had tried to end the investigation on procedural grounds, by ruling that it could not hear the case until the club had exhausted the disciplinary process at UEFA.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:42 pm

Farnhamia wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/sports/soccer/manchester-city-champions-league-ban.html

Manchester City, the reigning Premier League champion, has been barred from the Champions League for the next two seasons for “serious breaches” of European soccer’s financial regulations. The club has also been fined 30 million euros ($32.5 million).

Manchester City had sought to short circuit the investigation by financial regulators at UEFA — and preserve its place in the Champions League, European soccer’s richest competition and the trophy the club covets most — by appealing to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. But in November the court rejected the appeal, in which City had tried to end the investigation on procedural grounds, by ruling that it could not hear the case until the club had exhausted the disciplinary process at UEFA.


Couldn't have happened to a more deserving club.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:31 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/sports/soccer/manchester-city-champions-league-ban.html



Couldn't have happened to a more deserving club.

They used to be everybody's team when they beat United for their first title but now they've become hated.
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Postby Minoa » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:22 pm

I just learned of this while checking on Liverpool. A Premier League points deduction against Man City may be game, set and match for the Reds, and Jurgen Klopp can stop being so cautious.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:23 pm

Minoa wrote:I just learned of this while checking on Liverpool. A Premier League points deduction against Man City may be game, set and match for the Reds, and Jurgen Klopp can stop being so cautious.

Damn make it happen already!!!
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Postby Omerica » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:43 pm

Minoa wrote:I just learned of this while checking on Liverpool. A Premier League points deduction against Man City may be game, set and match for the Reds, and Jurgen Klopp can stop being so cautious.

Leicester would still technically be in the title race and it’s not really over until it’s mathematically impossible for anyone else to catch up.

But yeah, that would basically seal the league for Liverpool.
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:20 am

Tottenham's been playing well lately.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:53 am

City's ban will increase the chances Man United get into the Champions League. Wonder if Ole will still be at the wheel for that...
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:56 am

Outer Sparta wrote:City's ban will increase the chances Man United get into the Champions League. Wonder if Ole will still be at the wheel for that...


Tottenham, too. Sonny will lead the team to a higher rank as well.
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:19 am

It is not over until certain titles are stripped from City for cheating and they are relegated as was Juventus in early 00s.
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:24 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:Tottenham's been playing well lately.

by their 2019 league standard yes
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:26 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:Tottenham's been playing well lately.

by their 2019 league standard yes


Mourinho's not a good fit in the team, I think.
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:27 am

you think there is another manager who can do better job?
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:28 am

actually, allegri or ancelotti, but i think that mourinho had some general agreement with levy some weeks before he was actually hired, possibly before ancelotti left napoli, possibly even in summer.
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:29 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:you think there is another manager who can do better job?


Should'e kept Pochettino.
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ok... why
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:29 am

Questarian New Yorkshire wrote:ok... why


Because he's a better fit for Tottenham. The team went to Champions' Cup finals because of him.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:32 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:City's ban will increase the chances Man United get into the Champions League. Wonder if Ole will still be at the wheel for that...


Tottenham, too. Sonny will lead the team to a higher rank as well.

Currently Sheff United is in the 5th place spot. Imagine the scene if they get in.

On the other hand, United's only three points behind the Europa League spot!
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