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2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:22 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Has the Democratic Party renamed itself to the "We Don't Like Trump Party"?

The Democrats are drifting further right as a party because "at least they don't like Trump". I was almost convinced I might have to bend the knee to Biden after Trump started having protestors kidnapped, but then he starts talking about shooting them in the knees and arresting anarchists for their ideology... no thank you.


“Yeah, I mean trump is a fucking fascist who threatens the fabric of the country, but the harm reduction candidate has made some unsavory gaffes and is kinda centrist, so fuck that option I guess.”

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:25 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

Because he hates Trump.

Has the Democratic Party renamed itself to the "We Don't Like Trump Party"?

Yes they have, and many of its supporters feel that way.
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Postby Cordel One » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:26 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Good news for President Trump, the nation and the economy, 1,800,000 jobs were added to the economy in July 2020, reducing the unemployment rate to 10.20 %, the third decrease in a row, since the international virus crisis and the lock downs by Republican and Democrat governors due to the virus crisis.

Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 1.8 million in July, and the unemployment rate fell to 10.2 percent. These improvements in the labor market reflected the continued resumption of economic activity that had been curtailed due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

https://www.bls.gov/

The U.S. has the most cases in the world now by a very large margin, largely due to Trump's incompetence and unwillingness to do anything productive about preventing the virus. People are dying and it's only getting worse, but yay the imaginary line went up even though we're still falling behind because we're failing horribly to contain the virus!

Major-Tom wrote:
Cordel One wrote:The Democrats are drifting further right as a party because "at least they don't like Trump". I was almost convinced I might have to bend the knee to Biden after Trump started having protestors kidnapped, but then he starts talking about shooting them in the knees and arresting anarchists for their ideology... no thank you.


“Yeah, I mean trump is a fucking fascist who threatens the fabric of the country, but the harm reduction candidate has made some unsavory gaffes and is kinda centrist, so fuck that option I guess.”

Just about everything in that sentence starting at "harm reduction" is complete crap that downplays Biden's awful record as a politician.
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Postby Myrensis » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:29 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Good news for President Trump, the nation and the economy, 1,800,000 jobs were added to the economy in July 2020, reducing the unemployment rate to 10.20 %, the third decrease in a row, since the international virus crisis and the lock downs by Republican and Democrat governors due to the virus crisis.

Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 1.8 million in July, and the unemployment rate fell to 10.2 percent. These improvements in the labor market reflected the continued resumption of economic activity that had been curtailed due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

https://www.bls.gov/

The U.S. has the most cases in the world now by a very large margin, largely due to Trump's incompetence and unwillingness to do anything productive about preventing the virus. People are dying and it's only getting worse, but yay the imaginary line went up even though we're still falling behind because we're failing horribly to contain the virus!


Only because we insist on "testing" for it. If we just stopped the tests, the number of reported deaths and infections from COVID would plummet overnight!

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:32 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Good news for President Trump, the nation and the economy, 1,800,000 jobs were added to the economy in July 2020, reducing the unemployment rate to 10.20 %, the third decrease in a row, since the international virus crisis and the lock downs by Republican and Democrat governors due to the virus crisis.

Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 1.8 million in July, and the unemployment rate fell to 10.2 percent. These improvements in the labor market reflected the continued resumption of economic activity that had been curtailed due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

https://www.bls.gov/

The U.S. has the most cases in the world now by a very large margin, largely due to Trump's incompetence and unwillingness to do anything productive about preventing the virus. People are dying and it's only getting worse, but yay the imaginary line went up even though we're still falling behind because we're failing horribly to contain the virus!

This post is based on the unemployment rate falling for the third consecutive time in a row to 10.20 % from the virus crisis, and the lockdowns by Republican and Democrat Governors.

I know you strongly dislike President Trump, and many here hate him, and think he cant do no right. President Trump did hold news conferences on the virus telling people to wear the masks and social distance, I saw it on TV, you saw it on TV, and we all saw it on TV.

We need to open up the economy as safely as possible, following the health guidelines, of wearing masks and social distancing at work and in public as much as possible, this is what we have been doing, are doing and is the only thing we can do.

No one is going to do any different.
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Postby Cordel One » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:32 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Cordel One wrote:The U.S. has the most cases in the world now by a very large margin, largely due to Trump's incompetence and unwillingness to do anything productive about preventing the virus. People are dying and it's only getting worse, but yay the imaginary line went up even though we're still falling behind because we're failing horribly to contain the virus!


Only because we insist on "testing" for it. If we just stopped the tests, the number of reported deaths and infections from COVID would plummet overnight!

Only that's not true and we really are the worst nation!

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Cordel One wrote:The U.S. has the most cases in the world now by a very large margin, largely due to Trump's incompetence and unwillingness to do anything productive about preventing the virus. People are dying and it's only getting worse, but yay the imaginary line went up even though we're still falling behind because we're failing horribly to contain the virus!

This post is based on the unemployment rate falling for the third consecutive time in a row to 10.20 % from the virus crisis, and the lockdowns by Republican and Democrat Governors.

I know you strongly dislike President Trump, and think he cant do no right. President Trump did hold news conferences on the virus telling people to wear the masks and social distance, I saw it on TV, you saw it on TV, and we all saw it on TV.

We need to open up the economy as safely as possible, following the health guidelines, of wearing masks and social distancing at work and in publicas much as possible, this is what we have been doing, are doing and is the only thing we can do.

No one is going to do any different.


One day Trump will say we need to be safe, and the next he'll downplay it or talk about immediately reopening. We need to put human lives before the economy and keep sending money to those who need it, but we're not doing that,
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:43 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Only because we insist on "testing" for it. If we just stopped the tests, the number of reported deaths and infections from COVID would plummet overnight!

Only that's not true and we really are the worst nation!

Greater Miami Shores wrote:This post is based on the unemployment rate falling for the third consecutive time in a row to 10.20 % from the virus crisis, and the lockdowns by Republican and Democrat Governors.

I know you strongly dislike President Trump, and think he cant do no right. President Trump did hold news conferences on the virus telling people to wear the masks and social distance, I saw it on TV, you saw it on TV, and we all saw it on TV.

We need to open up the economy as safely as possible, following the health guidelines, of wearing masks and social distancing at work and in publicas much as possible, this is what we have been doing, are doing and is the only thing we can do.

No one is going to do any different.


One day Trump will say we need to be safe, and the next he'll downplay it or talk about immediately reopening. We need to put human lives before the economy and keep sending money to those who need it, but we're not doing that,

I suggested, we keep wearing the masks and social distancing as much as possible at work and in public. You suggest we lock down the economy even further. So by your logic lets shut down all businesses, the grocery stores, the merchandise stores, the gas stations, and all businesses, so I wont get infected, you wont get infected, and we wont get infected. But I say, lets open up the economy as safely as possible, following the health guidelines, of wearing the masks and social distancing at work and in public, what we have been doing, are doing and its the only we can do, no one is going to do it differently.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:43 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Only because we insist on "testing" for it. If we just stopped the tests, the number of reported deaths and infections from COVID would plummet overnight!

Only that's not true and we really are the worst nation!

Greater Miami Shores wrote:This post is based on the unemployment rate falling for the third consecutive time in a row to 10.20 % from the virus crisis, and the lockdowns by Republican and Democrat Governors.

I know you strongly dislike President Trump, and think he cant do no right. President Trump did hold news conferences on the virus telling people to wear the masks and social distance, I saw it on TV, you saw it on TV, and we all saw it on TV.

We need to open up the economy as safely as possible, following the health guidelines, of wearing masks and social distancing at work and in publicas much as possible, this is what we have been doing, are doing and is the only thing we can do.

No one is going to do any different.


One day Trump will say we need to be safe, and the next he'll downplay it or talk about immediately reopening. We need to put human lives before the economy and keep sending money to those who need it, but we're not doing that,

At some point you have to lift restrictions or the entire economy will go under and that will be worse than any pandemic

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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:44 pm

Whitmer traveled to Delaware to meet in-person with Biden last weekend. Looks like she's eyeing the job and knows how to impress Biden: get a strong relationship working.

In addition, Susan Rice Sold Netflix Shares, Days Before Joe Biden Chooses Running Mate.

This comes as Warren and Hillary Clinton are slated to speak on August 19th, the same night that Biden's VP will speak.

I'm not so Warren is the choice but damn, these moves would indicate one of them being VP. We'll have to see.
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Postby Aureumterra » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:03 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Cisairse wrote:...no, she was lambasted for being a puppet of the right and probably also funded by the russians

Please don’t tell me you actually believe that

She has huge approval among liberals and conservatives, we need more people like her now more than ever.

Or are you one of those people who prefers ideological victory over national unity and security?

That’s a really dumb belief, putting ideology and party over country. I’ve said many times but I’d rather have leftist nationalists in power over right wing globalists
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:06 pm

Meanwhile, down in Arizona, Joe Arpaio officially lost his primary for Maricopa County Sheriff today, by 5,280 votes: https://www.yahoo.com/news/americas-toughest-sheriff-narrowly-defeated-015859145.html
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:15 pm

Shrillland wrote:Meanwhile, down in Arizona, Joe Arpaio officially lost his primary for Maricopa County Sheriff today, by 5,280 votes: https://www.yahoo.com/news/americas-toughest-sheriff-narrowly-defeated-015859145.html

Lol Joe Arpaio trying to be the sheriff yet again.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:18 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Meanwhile, down in Arizona, Joe Arpaio officially lost his primary for Maricopa County Sheriff today, by 5,280 votes: https://www.yahoo.com/news/americas-toughest-sheriff-narrowly-defeated-015859145.html

Lol Joe Arpaio trying to be the sheriff yet again.

Too bad he lost.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:20 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Lol Joe Arpaio trying to be the sheriff yet again.

Too bad he lost.

Why? Joe Arpaio is a convicted criminal.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:24 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Too bad he lost.

Why? Joe Arpaio is a convicted criminal.

A pardoned convicted criminal. Try to pay attention.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:25 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Why? Joe Arpaio is a convicted criminal.

A pardoned convicted criminal. Try to pay attention.

Yes, a pardoned convicted criminal, so not a criminal.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:27 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Has the Democratic Party renamed itself to the "We Don't Like Trump Party"?

The Democrats are drifting further right as a party because "at least they don't like Trump". I was almost convinced I might have to bend the knee to Biden after Trump started having protestors kidnapped, but then he starts talking about shooting them in the knees and arresting anarchists for their ideology... no thank you.


He did WHAT
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:27 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Cordel One wrote:The Democrats are drifting further right as a party because "at least they don't like Trump". I was almost convinced I might have to bend the knee to Biden after Trump started having protestors kidnapped, but then he starts talking about shooting them in the knees and arresting anarchists for their ideology... no thank you.


He did WHAT

Yeah this is a very strange post.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:28 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Why? Joe Arpaio is a convicted criminal.

A pardoned convicted criminal. Try to pay attention.

*shrug* Eh, I could pardon a turd for being a turd but it’d still be a turd.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:A pardoned convicted criminal. Try to pay attention.

Yes, a pardoned convicted criminal, so not a criminal.

Pardoned of the consequences of his crimes, he still did the crimes.
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Postby Myrensis » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:29 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Cordel One wrote:The Democrats are drifting further right as a party because "at least they don't like Trump". I was almost convinced I might have to bend the knee to Biden after Trump started having protestors kidnapped, but then he starts talking about shooting them in the knees and arresting anarchists for their ideology... no thank you.


He did WHAT


Shortly after George Floyd's death when discussing police violence Biden suggested that they should try to shoot people in the knees rather than killing them. Then later when talking about violence and property destruction in Portland he said that 'arsonists and anarchists should be arrested'.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:34 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
He did WHAT


Shortly after George Floyd's death when discussing police violence Biden suggested that they should try to shoot people in the knees rather than killing them. Then later when talking about violence and property destruction in Portland he said that 'arsonists and anarchists should be arrested'.

Well, at least arsonists should be arrested, and if the anarchists broke a law they should be arrested too.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:36 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
He did WHAT


Shortly after George Floyd's death when discussing police violence Biden suggested that they should try to shoot people in the knees rather than killing them. Then later when talking about violence and property destruction in Portland he said that 'arsonists and anarchists should be arrested'.


So Biden thinks that instead of killing people for running from cops, we should permanently cripple them instead.

Told you all hes a radical centrist. One guy said we should try to use non lethal force to apprehend suspects and another said we should shoot them in the back, and Biden said "let's compromise. We shoot them in the knees."
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Postby Aureumterra » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:38 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
He did WHAT


Shortly after George Floyd's death when discussing police violence Biden suggested that they should try to shoot people in the knees rather than killing them. Then later when talking about violence and property destruction in Portland he said that 'arsonists and anarchists should be arrested'.

I don’t see what’s wrong with shooting people trying to destroy your property to endanger you, self defense 101
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:40 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Shortly after George Floyd's death when discussing police violence Biden suggested that they should try to shoot people in the knees rather than killing them. Then later when talking about violence and property destruction in Portland he said that 'arsonists and anarchists should be arrested'.

I don’t see what’s wrong with shooting people trying to destroy your property to endanger you, self defense 101


I think he was talking about anyone suspected of a crime. Not just rioters.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:44 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Shortly after George Floyd's death when discussing police violence Biden suggested that they should try to shoot people in the knees rather than killing them. Then later when talking about violence and property destruction in Portland he said that 'arsonists and anarchists should be arrested'.


So Biden thinks that instead of killing people for running from cops, we should permanently cripple them instead.

Told you all hes a radical centrist. One guy said we should try to use non lethal force to apprehend suspects and another said we should shoot them in the back, and Biden said "let's compromise. We shoot them in the knees."

Don't let him fool you.
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