2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Alcala-Cordel]

All communism is stateless, that's what it is.

Which is why it will never happen

I'd restate my examples of it working but is it really worth the effort?

[Thermodolia]

What?

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/20 ... jr-shoots/

Jesus.

Also the poll back in May had Trump leading by 3 points. https://utahpolicy.com/index.php/featur ... ts-in-utah

[Alcala-Cordel]

All communism is stateless, that's what it is.

All stateless communism requires a massive state apparatus to indoctrinate people that communism is good, else they automatically turn into a chaotic and violent warlord system where people realize they will be better off securing power as a strongman and hoard resources. Human civilization collapsed into anarchic violence and looting and drugs/weapons industries skyrocketed and everything burns. But this is getting off topic.

None of that is true.

[Thermodolia]

Which is why it will never happen

I'd restate my examples of it working but is it really worth the effort?

Literally all of them failed and where crushed by authoritarian powers.
Socialism works great but communism will never happen due to the fact that it’s a utopia

[Cekoviu]

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/20 ... jr-shoots/

Jesus.

Also the poll back in May had Trump leading by 3 points. https://utahpolicy.com/index.php/featur ... ts-in-utah

i may have been looking at a different pollster
either way this is actually even better for my point

[United States of Devonta]

Freshman Rep. Steve Watkins (R)and future felon, who's charged with voter fraud, starts out as the underdog in the KS-02 GOP primary. He's trailing state treasurer Jake LaTurner (R) 47%-28% in the very early going

LaTurner is the favorite. Steve Watkins has been marred in controversy for months now. I would say KS-02 is a Toss-up come November. It was decided by less then 1% in 2018.

[Shrillland]

Freshman Rep. Steve Watkins (R)and future felon, who's charged with voter fraud, starts out as the underdog in the KS-02 GOP primary. He's trailing state treasurer Jake LaTurner (R) 47%-28% in the very early going

LaTurner is the favorite. Steve Watkins has been marred in controversy for months now. I would say KS-02 is a Toss-up come November. It was decided by less then 1% in 2018.

Only if Watkins somehow wins. I think a LaTurner victory tonight means De La Isla won't have a chance in November.

[Alcala-Cordel]

I'd restate my examples of it working but is it really worth the effort?

Literally all of them failed and where crushed by authoritarian powers.
Socialism works great but communism will never happen due to the fact that it’s a utopia

You're wrong but I'm tired of repeatedly having this argument so I'm just gonna mention the EZLN and move to a different thrrad for a bit.

[Zurkerx]

Elsewhere....this is going to look really bad for Bass: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/karen-bass-eulogized-communist-party-usa-leader-391455

Ohh, that's a problem: that will not go over well with moderate voters. Yeah, as much as I thought she would get it, that is now out the window. That increases Harris' chances though to be clear, I suspect it won't be Harris: it usually isn't the ones you suspect. That said, my Top Five choices for Biden remaining have now been reshuffled to as follows (in no order):

1. Duckworth
2. Warren
3. Rice
4. Harris
5. Grisham

[Thermodolia]

Elsewhere....this is going to look really bad for Bass: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/karen-bass-eulogized-communist-party-usa-leader-391455

Ohh, that's a problem: that will not go over well with moderate voters. Yeah, as much as I thought she would get it, that is now out the window. That increases Harris' chances though to be clear, I suspect it won't be Harris: it usually isn't the ones you suspect. That said, my Top Five choices for Biden remaining have now been reshuffled to as follows (in no order):

1. Duckworth
2. Warren
3. Rice
4. Harris
5. Grisham

Ya know it might be Grisham

[United States of Devonta]

Freshman Rep. Steve Watkins (R)and future felon, who's charged with voter fraud, starts out as the underdog in the KS-02 GOP primary. He's trailing state treasurer Jake LaTurner (R) 47%-28% in the very early going

LaTurner is the favorite. Steve Watkins has been marred in controversy for months now. I would say KS-02 is a Toss-up come November. It was decided by less then 1% in 2018.

Only if Watkins somehow wins. I think a LaTurner victory tonight means De La Isla won't have a chance in November.

KS-02 is competitive either way. If Dems run up the numbers in urban areas like Topeka and Lawrence, while keeping rural area somewhat respectable they can win. Lawrence is the most Democratic part of Kansas - okay maybe KC as of 2018 - and a college town.

[Solvokina]

I'd restate my examples of it working but is it really worth the effort?

Literally all of them failed and where crushed by authoritarian powers.
Socialism works great but communism will never happen due to the fact that it’s a utopia

No point of changing the mind of an AnCom. They'll never get rid of their Utopia idea

[Shrillland]

Polls are now closed in Arizona, MDT Kansas, and CDT Michigan. And with that, a slew of calls:

Dem KS-Senate: Barbara Bollier
Dem MI-1(Peninsulas): Dana Ferguson
GOP MI-3(Grand Rapids): Peter Meijer
GOP MI-5(Flint-Saginaw): Tim Kelly
GOP MI-6(Kalamazoo): Fred Upton
GOP MI-9(Warren): Charles Langworthy
Dem MI-12(Ann Arbor-Dearborn): Debbie DIngell
GOP MI-14(Detroit-Farmington Hills): Robert Patrick
Dem MI-14(Detroit-Farmington Hills): Brenda Lawrence
GOP MO-4(Columbia-Sedalia): Vicky Hartzler
Dem MO-5(Kansas City Central): Emanuel Cleaver
GOP MO-6(Kansas City-St. Joseph-Kirksville): Sam Graves

[Blargoblarg]

Literally all of them failed and where crushed by authoritarian powers.
Socialism works great but communism will never happen due to the fact that it’s a utopia

You're wrong but I'm tired of repeatedly having this argument so I'm just gonna mention the EZLN and move to a different thrrad for a bit.

I suspect some people don't know what EZLN is. The portion of Chiapas they control has been going strong since the mid-90s, by the way.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

You're wrong but I'm tired of repeatedly having this argument so I'm just gonna mention the EZLN and move to a different thrrad for a bit.

I suspect some people don't know what EZLN is. The portion of Chiapas they control has been going strong since the mid-90s, by the way.

These days they’re literally just there to collect “tolls” for traveling on certain roads in Southern Mexico, not much of a communist success story

[United States of Devonta]

Polls are now closed in Arizona, MDT Kansas, and CDT Michigan. And with that, a slew of calls:

Dem KS-Senate: Barbara Bollier
Dem MI-1(Peninsulas): Dana Ferguson
GOP MI-3(Grand Rapids): Peter Meijer
GOP MI-5(Flint-Saginaw): Tim Kelly
GOP MI-6(Kalamazoo): Fred Upton
GOP MI-9(Warren): Charles Langworthy
Dem MI-12(Ann Arbor-Dearborn): Debbie DIngell
GOP MI-14(Detroit-Farmington Hills): Robert Patrick
Dem MI-14(Detroit-Farmington Hills): Brenda Lawrence
GOP MO-4(Columbia-Sedalia): Vicky Hartzler
Dem MO-5(Kansas City Central): Emanuel Cleaver
GOP MO-6(Kansas City-St. Joseph-Kirksville): Sam Graves

Can't wait for the Kansas senate race in November !!

[United States of Devonta]

Missouri voters are currently voting in favor of expanding medicaid in huge numbers. Dems have pushed this for along time, amidst strong Republican opposition.

[Shrillland]

They are indeed, but I'm not ready to call it yet. I am ready to call:

Dem KS-2(Topeka): Michelle De La Isla
GOP KS-3(Kansas City-Overland Park): Amanda Adkins
Dem MO-3(Jefferson City- St. Charles): Megan Rezabek
GOP MO-7(Springfield): Billy Long

[Zurkerx]

Ohh, that's a problem: that will not go over well with moderate voters. Yeah, as much as I thought she would get it, that is now out the window. That increases Harris' chances though to be clear, I suspect it won't be Harris: it usually isn't the ones you suspect. That said, my Top Five choices for Biden remaining have now been reshuffled to as follows (in no order):

1. Duckworth
2. Warren
3. Rice
4. Harris
5. Grisham

Ya know it might be Grisham

Grisham wouldn't be a bad pick: she's a Latina with both executive (Governor and NM's former Health Secretary and a local Commissioner) and was a member of the House who chaired the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. Of course, it wouldn't fit the mantra of him picking a Black woman but it's ultimately up to Biden. The only thing holding her back is the fact she's a Governor. And why? Because they need to devote their attention to the pandemic and it would be difficult I would think to campaign and do her job.

[Dresderstan]

Looks like Marshall has a solid lead against Kobach and it is steadily increasing and stable.

[Shrillland]

A few more calls:

GOP KS-1(Salina-Dodge City): Tracey Mann'
Dem KS-1(Salina-Dodge City): Kali Barnett

[United States of Devonta]

Kobach has lost to Dr. Roger Marshall in the Republican Kansas Senate primary. Damnit!

[Shrillland]

Yes, I must agree:

GOP KS-Senate: Roger Marshall
GOP KS-2(Topeka): Jake LaTurner
Dem MI-4(Midland-Mount Pleasant): Jerry Hilliard
Dem MO-6(Kansas City-St. Joseph-Kirksville): Gena Ross

As for Amendment 2...still can't call it yet, it's getting pretty close indeed.

[Shrillland]

Oh, and since 90% of all voted in Arizona were early or by mail, we should have everything there wrapped up within the hour.

[Dresderstan]

Oh, and since 90% of all voted in Arizona were early or by mail, we should have everything there wrapped up within the hour.

Explains the lack of any results then, but not totally unexpected either.