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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Cisairse » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:50 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/06/30/civil-rights-activist-and-former-de-blasio-official-considering-run-for-mayor-1296499

The election isnt until next year but civil rights activist and former chair of the Civilian Complaint Review Board Maya Wiley is strongly considering a run for NYC mayor. Insiders are saying her entry would strongly upend the fact to succeed De Blasio who is term limited. In my view and that of many I know anyone would be better than him

I still want Yang in that seat
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:57 am

Cisairse wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/06/30/civil-rights-activist-and-former-de-blasio-official-considering-run-for-mayor-1296499

The election isnt until next year but civil rights activist and former chair of the Civilian Complaint Review Board Maya Wiley is strongly considering a run for NYC mayor. Insiders are saying her entry would strongly upend the fact to succeed De Blasio who is term limited. In my view and that of many I know anyone would be better than him

I still want Yang in that seat

I would like to see him run as well

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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:27 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Third parties aren't going to be a problem in 2020. As for a complacent electorate, it happens to differing degrees in different years. Though voters should never be complacent, but in 2016 we had some of that bc we fielded two highly dislikeable candidates. This year there's only one candidate of that nature, Trump. This year's potential problem is voter suppression but with these growing margins for Biden the danger is much lessened.


Never underestimate Republicans ability to engage in voter suppression and use courts to assist them in that.


Actually, from what we've seen this year, voter suppression by Republicans isn't the problem. Voter suppression by COVID-19 is a far bigger issue, and one that's led to the scenes we've seen in Kentucky, Nevada, New York, and Utah.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:30 pm

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Never underestimate Republicans ability to engage in voter suppression and use courts to assist them in that.


Actually, from what we've seen this year, voter suppression by Republicans isn't the problem. Voter suppression by COVID-19 is a far bigger issue, and one that's led to the scenes we've seen in Kentucky, Nevada, New York, and Utah.

Which the Republicans are deliberately aggravating by reducing the number of legitimate polling places.
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Postby Cisairse » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:33 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Actually, from what we've seen this year, voter suppression by Republicans isn't the problem. Voter suppression by COVID-19 is a far bigger issue, and one that's led to the scenes we've seen in Kentucky, Nevada, New York, and Utah.

Which the Republicans are deliberately aggravating by reducing the number of legitimate polling places.

I know for a fact that at least some of this isn't the GOP's fault: many, many people who are regular pollworkers are basically refusing to work now because they're scared of catching COVID.

And for good reason. Many pollworkers are retired people who are at extreme risk of dying if they contract COVID.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:33 pm

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Never underestimate Republicans ability to engage in voter suppression and use courts to assist them in that.


Actually, from what we've seen this year, voter suppression by Republicans isn't the problem. Voter suppression by COVID-19 is a far bigger issue, and one that's led to the scenes we've seen in Kentucky, Nevada, New York, and Utah.

Which is why voting by mail has to be prioritized for safe elections.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:34 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Actually, from what we've seen this year, voter suppression by Republicans isn't the problem. Voter suppression by COVID-19 is a far bigger issue, and one that's led to the scenes we've seen in Kentucky, Nevada, New York, and Utah.

Which the Republicans are deliberately aggravating by reducing the number of legitimate polling places.


Not just Republicans though. Kentucky and Nevada were both Democratic administrations. Remember, a far bigger problem is how the demographics of poll workers are so heavily skewed towards high-risk groups like seniors, and that's something that can't be blamed on party or ideology, just commonsense of not wanting to contract a deadly illness.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:47 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Actually, from what we've seen this year, voter suppression by Republicans isn't the problem. Voter suppression by COVID-19 is a far bigger issue, and one that's led to the scenes we've seen in Kentucky, Nevada, New York, and Utah.

Which is why voting by mail has to be prioritized for safe elections.

And we have to find a way to count ballots faster. A two week rule like in New York is absurd

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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:58 pm

As we wait for more vote drops from Utah, waiting whether to see if Huntsman does win(though I doubt he will) we have more measures for the Plaza, one kind of expected.

Mississippi: Now that Mississippi has gotten rid of their old flag, they need a new one. This measure is part of the law that got rid of the old one. Mississippi now has a nine-member Commission to Redesign the Mississippi State Flag, three appointed by the Speaker of the House, three by the Lieutenant Governor, and the remaining three chosen by the Governor from the various state arts, historic, and economic councils. They have to come up with a new design by September 14 that can't include the old battle jack and must include the state motto: In God We Trust. It must also, according to the law, "honour the past while embracing the promise of the future." Once they decide it it goes to the voters via this measure. If the voters reject it, then the Commission will meet again and consider a new flag design to be voted on in 2021.

Oregon: Next, we have a measure that would effectively decriminalise most drug possession. Possession of a controlled substance found anywhere on Schedule I-IV of the Controlled Substances Act would be reduced from a felony or misemeanour(depending on where the drug lies) to a Class E violation punishable by a $100 fine or a required health assessment. It would also establish and addiction treatment and recovery programme that would be funded using 20% of each quarter's marijuana tax revenues and set up a state organisation to give grants to communities and nonprofits to set up addiction treatment centres.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Which is why voting by mail has to be prioritized for safe elections.

And we have to find a way to count ballots faster. A two week rule like in New York is absurd


Sooner, to be more accurate. Oregon starts processing ballots 10 days before Election Day.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:04 pm

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And we have to find a way to count ballots faster. A two week rule like in New York is absurd


Sooner, to be more accurate. Oregon starts processing ballots 10 days before Election Day.

New York and other states ought to adopt that

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:38 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Hoping Huntsman hangs on, he's a remarkably effective and level-headed politician.


Spoke too soon, apparently he pivoted from moderate technocrat to full on Trumper prior to the election.

Whoops.

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:38 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cisairse wrote:I still want Yang in that seat

I would like to see him run as well


He'd be a good choice, or even a solid option for the gubernatorial race in 2022. We need Yang to stay in the public sphere.

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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:39 pm

Cisairse wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/06/30/civil-rights-activist-and-former-de-blasio-official-considering-run-for-mayor-1296499

The election isnt until next year but civil rights activist and former chair of the Civilian Complaint Review Board Maya Wiley is strongly considering a run for NYC mayor. Insiders are saying her entry would strongly upend the fact to succeed De Blasio who is term limited. In my view and that of many I know anyone would be better than him

I still want Yang in that seat

Yang and Gabbard are based ngl

UBI needs tweaking though
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:39 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Hoping Huntsman hangs on, he's a remarkably effective and level-headed politician.


Spoke too soon, apparently he pivoted from moderate technocrat to full on Trumper prior to the election.

Whoops.

Well then I hope Cox wins. He’s a moderate republican which is now an endangered species

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Postby No State Here » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:40 pm


Also if you consider yourself a practicing Christian, you may want to think twice before voting for probably the worst sinner in office. Twice divorced with multiple accusations and prone to gluttony and sloth
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:40 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Cisairse wrote:I still want Yang in that seat

Yang and Gabbard are based ngl

UBI needs tweaking though


There are so many different ways in which to implement UBI, both properly and improperly. It's fascinating.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:41 pm

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Also if you consider yourself a practicing Christian, you may want to think twice before voting for probably the worst sinner in office. Twice divorced with multiple accusations and prone to gluttony and sloth

The Constitution Party is another good option.
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Postby No State Here » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:45 pm

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No State Here wrote:Also if you consider yourself a practicing Christian, you may want to think twice before voting for probably the worst sinner in office. Twice divorced with multiple accusations and prone to gluttony and sloth

The Constitution Party is another good option.

They’re a fairly good choice

But can you really beat this?
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Spoke too soon, apparently he pivoted from moderate technocrat to full on Trumper prior to the election.

Whoops.

Well then I hope Cox wins. He’s a moderate republican which is now an endangered species


I don't know...We got another vote drop not too long ago, but there's still a lot of unreported votes we're still waiting on in SLC and areas further north like Ogden and Logan.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:53 pm

No State Here wrote:

Also if you consider yourself a practicing Christian, you may want to think twice before voting for probably the worst sinner in office. Twice divorced with multiple accusations and prone to gluttony and sloth

And greed, plus envy of Obama.
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Northern Davincia wrote:The Constitution Party is another good option.

They’re a fairly good choice

But can you really beat this?
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No State Here wrote:Also if you consider yourself a practicing Christian, you may want to think twice before voting for probably the worst sinner in office. Twice divorced with multiple accusations and prone to gluttony and sloth

The Constitution Party is another good option.


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Postby Cisairse » Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:18 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Cisairse wrote:I still want Yang in that seat

Yang and Gabbard are based ngl

UBI needs tweaking though

Right, that's why Yang should be NYC mayor. So he can figure it out.
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