2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[San Lumen]

It would be a hell of a change of he does. He's been in the House as long as I've been in this world, 32 years. It takes a huge shift in public opinion to remove someone who's been in that long.

And really I don't think any of his primary challengers are gonna beat him, and never will the Bronx vote a Republican.

There isn't even a Republican on the ballot. A member of the Conservative party will be the sole challanger

[Cisairse]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/trump-campaign-rallies/index.html

Trump has announced he will restart campaign rallies in two weeks. I am not certain if there is anything governors or mayors can legally do to stop him.

Oh there absolutely is. Large gatherings are still 100% banned in many states.

[San Lumen]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/trump-campaign-rallies/index.html

Trump has announced he will restart campaign rallies in two weeks. I am not certain if there is anything governors or mayors can legally do to stop him.

Oh there absolutely is. Large gatherings are still 100% banned in many states.

and they can legally stop him how?

[Shrillland]

It would be a hell of a change of he does. He's been in the House as long as I've been in this world, 32 years. It takes a huge shift in public opinion to remove someone who's been in that long.

And really I don't think any of his primary challengers are gonna beat him, and never will the Bronx vote a Republican.

None of Joseph Crowley's primary challengers could beat him, either, until one of them did. Bowman's now got an engorged war chest, support from Progressive organisations, and although no polling has yet been done in the area, signs are that Engel's numbers have dropped precipitously.

[Major-Tom]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/trump-campaign-rallies/index.html

Trump has announced he will restart campaign rallies in two weeks. I am not certain if there is anything governors or mayors can legally do to stop him.

Oh there absolutely is. Large gatherings are still 100% banned in many states.

And in the states where they're not, well...COVID will spread like wildfire within the rallies and their friends/family should isolate themselves from those people accordingly.

[Shrillland]

Oh there absolutely is. Large gatherings are still 100% banned in many states.

and they can legally stop him how?

They can't, for the same reason that they didn't launch tear gas and rubber bullets on the anti-lockdown crowds. They know that these folks are armed and will fight back.

[Cisairse]

Oh there absolutely is. Large gatherings are still 100% banned in many states.

and they can legally stop him how?

They can send in the police to shut down the gathering. Or, otherwise, they can just slap Trump with a massive fine.

[San Lumen]

and they can legally stop him how?

They can send in the police to shut down the gathering. Or, otherwise, they can just slap Trump with a massive fine.

Why didnt they stop the anti lockdown protests or all current protests? Those constitute large gatherings. Trump can refuse to pay said fine

[Jerzylvania]

Oh there absolutely is. Large gatherings are still 100% banned in many states.

And in the states where they're not, well...COVID will spread like wildfire within the rallies and their friends/family should isolate themselves from those people accordingly.

Pity the governor that tries to enforce a ban on one of these rallies.

And your dead right MT, COVID will do just that and it'll be Hell to pay when the local finger pointing starts.

[San Lumen]

And in the states where they're not, well...COVID will spread like wildfire within the rallies and their friends/family should isolate themselves from those people accordingly.

Pity the governor that tries to enforce a ban on one of these rallies.

And your dead right MT, COVID will do just that and it'll be Hell to pay when the local finger pointing starts.

Its not going to go over very well

[Cisairse]

They can send in the police to shut down the gathering. Or, otherwise, they can just slap Trump with a massive fine.

Why didnt they stop the anti lockdown protests or all current protests? Those constitute large gatherings. Trump can refuse to pay said fine

In my state, the anti-lockdown protest was stopped.

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/04/ ... rings.html

[San Lumen]

Why didnt they stop the anti lockdown protests or all current protests? Those constitute large gatherings. Trump can refuse to pay said fine

In my state, the anti-lockdown protest was stopped.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... arged-with

New Jersey isnt going to be in play and in my view that is violation of the first amendment and completely hypocritical

[Cisairse]

In my state, the anti-lockdown protest was stopped.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... arged-with

New Jersey isnt going to be in play and in my view that is violation of the first amendment.

Trump has rallied here before: NJ-2 and NJ-3 are going to be among the most contested House seats this cycle (they were both Democratic flips in '18; NJ-3 had been a GOP hold since 2010 and they only lost it due to mail-in ballots. NJ-2's Democratic usurper has since switched to the GOP, where he faces an uphill battle for re-election).

[San Lumen]

New Jersey isnt going to be in play and in my view that is violation of the first amendment.

Trump has rallied here before: NJ-2 and NJ-3 are going to be among the most contested House seats this cycle (they were both Democratic flips in '18; NJ-3 had been a GOP hold since 2010 and they only lost it due to mail-in ballots. NJ-2's Democratic usurper has since switched to the GOP, where he faces an uphill battle for re-election).

Trump is not going to win New Jersey

Murphy is a hypocrite for allowing the police brutality protests but not anti lockdown ones. The first amendment protects all assembly and protest not just ones you agree with

[Zurkerx]

They can send in the police to shut down the gathering. Or, otherwise, they can just slap Trump with a massive fine.

Why didnt they stop the anti lockdown protests or all current protests? Those constitute large gatherings. Trump can refuse to pay said fine

It wouldn't be the first time he didn't pay: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... /85297274/

[Valrifell]

Trump has rallied here before: NJ-2 and NJ-3 are going to be among the most contested House seats this cycle (they were both Democratic flips in '18; NJ-3 had been a GOP hold since 2010 and they only lost it due to mail-in ballots. NJ-2's Democratic usurper has since switched to the GOP, where he faces an uphill battle for re-election).

Trump is not going to win New Jersey

Trump going to New Jersey is not about him winning the state. It's about him joining in the campaign for other Republicans like in the NJ-3 and NJ-2 to try and give them a better chance at the polls. Even in reachier districts like the NJ-5 (which last went red in 2014, where 2016 was a rare and narrow house flip for the Dems, ending a 30 year streak) his presence could help.

Not everything is about the presidential race, Lumen.

[Alt-Right Death Squads]

[spoiler="Illinois"]Illinois is voting to amend its constitution to allow for a graduated progressive income tax as opposed to the current requirements for a flat income tax. Polls show it passing with an average of 67%, and we require 60%+1 or an absolute majority of all voters. The tax rates were determined last year and will only go into effect once the amendment passes[/spoiler]

I genuinely hope this fails.

[Shrillland]

[spoiler="Illinois"]Illinois is voting to amend its constitution to allow for a graduated progressive income tax as opposed to the current requirements for a flat income tax. Polls show it passing with an average of 67%, and we require 60%+1 or an absolute majority of all voters. The tax rates were determined last year and will only go into effect once the amendment passes[/spoiler]

I genuinely hope this fails.

I don't. We need to fix the pension crisis, and the best ways to do that are income tax reform, expanded gambling, property tax reform to encourage more people to live here, and pension reform itself. The last one's the hardest because that also requires a constitutional amendment, and the last one didn't get enough votes.

[Northern Davincia]

I genuinely hope this fails.

I don't. We need to fix the pension crisis, and the best ways to do that are income tax reform, expanded gambling, property tax reform to encourage more people to live here, and pension reform itself. The last one's the hardest because that also requires a constitutional amendment, and the last one didn't get enough votes.

The only desirable pension reform is to abolish pensions.

[San Lumen]

https://www.baltimoresun.com

In Baltimore while results are still not official City Council President Brandon Scott now leads former Mayor Shelia Dixon by 1385 votes. Whomever wins the Democratic primary will almost certainly be the next mayor

Nonprofit Executive and former Pastor Shannon Wright in the current leader in the Republican primary

[Alt-Right Death Squads]

Donald Trump's approval rating is now 41.4%, the lowest it has been since November 20.

Notably, an approval rating of 41.4% and a disapproval rating of 54.3% is very close to (within MOE) that CNN poll this morning that showed Biden as 14 points above Trump. This suggestions that, unlike Hillary Clinton, Biden is successfully capturing virtually all of the non-Trump votes.

We still have a LONG time till November, let us not forget Trump polled clown number early in the race. If he's STILL coming up short after ripping into Biden, then I'll worry.

[Alt-Right Death Squads]

I genuinely hope this fails.

I don't. We need to fix the pension crisis, and the best ways to do that are income tax reform, expanded gambling, property tax reform to encourage more people to live here, and pension reform itself. The last one's the hardest because that also requires a constitutional amendment, and the last one didn't get enough votes.

Expect 15 new tax brackets and triple dipping as both local and county skim you for everything you got. If this passes, I might honestly abandon the state.

[Bear Stearns]

"I'm willing to forgive unjustified wars, regional destabilization, and countless civilian deaths because I don't like Trump"

You're getting straw on the carpet.

What else could you have possibly meant by "#butiraq"?

[Cisairse]

https://www.baltimoresun.com

In Baltimore while results are still not official City Council President Brandon Scott now leads former Mayor Shelia Dixon by 1385 votes. Whomever wins the Democratic primary will almost certainly be the next mayor

Nonprofit Executive and former Pastor Shannon Wright in the current leader in the Republican primary

Nice.

Donald Trump's approval rating is now 41.4%, the lowest it has been since November 20.

Notably, an approval rating of 41.4% and a disapproval rating of 54.3% is very close to (within MOE) that CNN poll this morning that showed Biden as 14 points above Trump. This suggestions that, unlike Hillary Clinton, Biden is successfully capturing virtually all of the non-Trump votes.

We still have a LONG time till November, let us not forget Trump polled clown number early in the race. If he's STILL coming up short after ripping into Biden, then I'll worry.

Biden is polling substantially higher than Clinton at this point. In fact, he's polling substantially higher than Kerry did in '04, too. Supposedly no presidential challenger in history (going as far back as polls allow, which is the '40 race) who has led in every May poll has gone on to lose the election - Biden qualified.

[Cisairse]

I don't. We need to fix the pension crisis, and the best ways to do that are income tax reform, expanded gambling, property tax reform to encourage more people to live here, and pension reform itself. The last one's the hardest because that also requires a constitutional amendment, and the last one didn't get enough votes.

Expect 15 new tax brackets and triple dipping as both local and county skim you for everything you got. If this passes, I might honestly abandon the state.

Why exactly are tax brackets a bad thing?

Regressive taxes are bad, mmkay.