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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:21 am

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And what about the rest of the platform? Sell us on that.

Abolishing the ATF

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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:26 am

According to a new poll released, a majority of Millennials and Gen Z voters in battleground states want Biden to pick Black woman as VP.

Within that poll, 60% of Millennials and Gen Z want a Biden to select a Black VP. In addition, 54% of minority women want a Black VP, as well as a plurality of women and white-college educated women.

While Biden should pick who's best qualified to be his VP, selecting a Black woman could bring excitement to the ticket though it can't be any Black woman. To me, I feel Harris would be the worst (as others have pointed out), but hopefully, Biden selects the person he thinks is best for the job regardless of race.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:33 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:“Please don’t oppress anyone”

Lol that has to be the weakest thing I’ve ever heard

I’m sure you would hate that

Not what I mean. It’s the weakest statement in the world. Just asking everyone to not be mean or oppress people has never worked in the history of the world.

The idea that if you just ask someone nicely to not oppress you they won’t is laughably silly. It’s on the same level that everyone will sing Kumbaya and hold hands if we would just stop doing x
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:41 am

Zurkerx wrote:According to a new poll released, a majority of Millennials and Gen Z voters in battleground states want Biden to pick Black woman as VP.

Within that poll, 60% of Millennials and Gen Z want a Biden to select a Black VP. In addition, 54% of minority women want a Black VP, as well as a plurality of women and white-college educated women.

While Biden should pick who's best qualified to be his VP, selecting a Black woman could bring excitement to the ticket though it can't be any Black woman. To me, I feel Harris would be the worst (as others have pointed out), but hopefully, Biden selects the person he thinks is best for the job regardless of race.

I’m not saying that Biden shouldn’t listen to the millennials and Gen zers but they don’t really vote that much. But maybe this is a way of them saying they will vote, if that’s the case then they need to show it
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:52 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:According to a new poll released, a majority of Millennials and Gen Z voters in battleground states want Biden to pick Black woman as VP.

Within that poll, 60% of Millennials and Gen Z want a Biden to select a Black VP. In addition, 54% of minority women want a Black VP, as well as a plurality of women and white-college educated women.

While Biden should pick who's best qualified to be his VP, selecting a Black woman could bring excitement to the ticket though it can't be any Black woman. To me, I feel Harris would be the worst (as others have pointed out), but hopefully, Biden selects the person he thinks is best for the job regardless of race.

I’m not saying that Biden shouldn’t listen to the millennials and Gen zers but they don’t really vote that much. But maybe this is a way of them saying they will vote, if that’s the case then they need to show it

I am not surprised Democrats and leftists want Biden to pick a Black VP.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:53 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’m not saying that Biden shouldn’t listen to the millennials and Gen zers but they don’t really vote that much. But maybe this is a way of them saying they will vote, if that’s the case then they need to show it

I am not surprised Democrats and leftists want Biden to pick a Black VP.

...I am not sure you intended that to read the way it does.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:56 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am not surprised Democrats and leftists want Biden to pick a Black VP.

...I am not sure you intended that to read the way it does.

I mean, the Black vote is a considerable part of the Democratic Party base, it would help Biden get a larger share of the Black vote than Hillary got.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:58 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:...I am not sure you intended that to read the way it does.

I mean, the Black vote is a considerable part of the Democratic Party base, it would help Biden get a larger share of the Black vote than Hillary got.

Seems I was right, you did not intend it to read the way it does.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:07 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I mean, the Black vote is a considerable part of the Democratic Party base, it would help Biden get a larger share of the Black vote than Hillary got.

Seems I was right, you did not intend it to read the way it does.

Thank you.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:09 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:According to a new poll released, a majority of Millennials and Gen Z voters in battleground states want Biden to pick Black woman as VP.

Within that poll, 60% of Millennials and Gen Z want a Biden to select a Black VP. In addition, 54% of minority women want a Black VP, as well as a plurality of women and white-college educated women.

While Biden should pick who's best qualified to be his VP, selecting a Black woman could bring excitement to the ticket though it can't be any Black woman. To me, I feel Harris would be the worst (as others have pointed out), but hopefully, Biden selects the person he thinks is best for the job regardless of race.

I’m not saying that Biden shouldn’t listen to the millennials and Gen zers but they don’t really vote that much. But maybe this is a way of them saying they will vote, if that’s the case then they need to show it

The VP pick isn't even a factor for me, my one and only requirement is and has always been adopting M4A into the platform.
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Postby Juristonia » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:14 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Juristonia wrote:I'm sure anyone with two functioning brain cells to spare would.

"Don’t oppress anyone"

Don’t insult the intelligence of people with two functioning brain cells

I like how I can never tell if your whole obtuse thing is deliberate or just a character flaw.
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:56 am

Kannap wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Same.


If the election were today, I'd vote for Hawkins/Walker

honestly Biden's VP will be a big deal for me. Bass is a 100% guarantee I vote for Biden. Harris is a 100% guarantee I vote Green.

If he picks somebody else, I'll need to look into their beliefs and policies to determine if I vote for him or not.

Same but s/Bass/Warren/g
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:59 am

Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:56 am

https://twitter.com/dscc/status/1286312 ... 44995?s=20

The DSCC clearly see an opportunity in Louisiana and and will be investing money behind Mayor Adrian Perkins. The Democrats have clearly brought back the 50 state strategy.
Perkins who is African American, mayor of the third largest city in the state, and Afghan and Iraq veteran is probably one of the best candidates they could have gotten


https://poll.qu.edu/florida/release-det ... aseID=3668

A new poll has Biden up 13 in Florida!
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:02 pm

Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:09 pm


I also like how it compared him to the black peppered moth, which only thrived because of an increase in industrial pollution.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:21 pm

New Florida Poll: Quinnipiac -Biden 51% Trump 38%
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:48 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:New Florida Poll: Quinnipiac -Biden 51% Trump 38%

If this keeps up Trump is a goner. There is no way he can win without Florida, well not a realistic way as he’d also have to do without PA and MI.
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:56 pm

Juristonia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:"Don’t oppress anyone"

Don’t insult the intelligence of people with two functioning brain cells

I like how I can never tell if your whole obtuse thing is deliberate or just a character flaw.

You’re basically implying support for oppression
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Postby Kannap » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:59 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Juristonia wrote:I like how I can never tell if your whole obtuse thing is deliberate or just a character flaw.

You’re basically implying support for oppression


I followed this accusation back to a meme and I'm left more confused than anything.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:32 pm

Well, it appears Trump's backtracked on the speech in Jacksonville, leaving the GOP convention's actual makeup once again in suspense: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cancels-republican-convention-virus-214236414.html
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Postby Slavakino » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:15 pm

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Slavakino wrote:2016 Trump was the best, his policies seemed great for the USA. Currently as president he isn't "incompetent" in a way but good lord is he idle. Trump needs to pump out his policies and promises. I heavily dislike Bidens policies, especially "hate speech" and firearm laws. I guarantee this election would be a win by 51-60%, I don't see a landslide happening any time soon


So you complain about the lack of a proper leftist party... while plugging the more unambiguously right-wing candidate as the better one. Huh.

Also Trump couldn't even get 50% in 2016, and is arguably less popular now than he was then. So not sure how you see him getting a result like that.

I only go for leaders whose policies are good for their nation and good for me.
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Postby Slavakino » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:16 pm

No State Here wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And what about the rest of the platform? Sell us on that.

Abolishing the ATF

IRS reform

Tax cuts

Freedom to do anything you want no matter what as long as it does not directly harm other’s individual liberties, which includes being able to legally own a F-35A lightning 2, and legally purchase an arsenal of weapons larger than a small countries’

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AnCap has arrived. Although the ATF is pretty retarded (Ironically makes Australian gun laws look competent) IRS and Tax cuts don't make sense when in Australia we have a progressive tax rate from 0-50%.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:New Florida Poll: Quinnipiac -Biden 51% Trump 38%

If this keeps up Trump is a goner. There is no way he can win without Florida, well not a realistic way as he’d also have to do without PA and MI.


if Biden wins Florida there is no way Trump is winning the big three.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:New Florida Poll: Quinnipiac -Biden 51% Trump 38%

If this keeps up Trump is a goner. There is no way he can win without Florida, well not a realistic way as he’d also have to do without PA and MI.


If Biden takes FL by a decisive margin the expected election night drama could fizzle out early. I think that would be awesome. I suppose it'll depend on the % of votes cast by mail-in ballots.
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