2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Shrillland]

Polls are now closed in Colorado. Another call to be made:

Dem OK-1(Tulsa Central): Kojo Asamoa-Caesar

[Zurkerx]

Joe Biden gave his first press conference since March and he looked pretty sharp.

During the beginning stages of the primary, I often alluded to Biden being "a bit out of touch with lucidity," and I feel I should apologize for that and retract it. He's still got it. No 77 year old is going to be as razor-sharp as their 40 year old self, but he's doing well.

Plus, his strategy of "let your enemy shoot himself in the foot" is low-key, but savvy.

Biden tends to do well when scripted: it helps keep him focused. The big question is whether he can maintain his composure when he doesn't have a teleprompter. That'll be a the big test come the debates and more interviews. I have yet to watch it but I did hear good things as well as Biden contrasting himself to Trump.

Polls are now closed in Colorado. Another call to be made:

Dem OK-1(Tulsa Central): Kojo Asamoa-Caesar

It should be interesting to see if Hickenlooper wins or not though he'll likely be the nominee.

[Major-Tom]

During the beginning stages of the primary, I often alluded to Biden being "a bit out of touch with lucidity," and I feel I should apologize for that and retract it. He's still got it. No 77 year old is going to be as razor-sharp as their 40 year old self, but he's doing well.

Plus, his strategy of "let your enemy shoot himself in the foot" is low-key, but savvy.

Biden tends to do well when scripted: it helps keep him focused. The big question is whether he can maintain his composure when he doesn't have a teleprompter. That'll be a the big test come the debates and more interviews. I have yet to watch it but I did hear good things as well as Biden contrasting himself to Trump.

Polls are now closed in Colorado. Another call to be made:

Dem OK-1(Tulsa Central): Kojo Asamoa-Caesar

It should be interesting to see if Hickenlooper wins or not though he'll likely be the nominee.

Had the accusations against Hickenlooper really stuck earlier in the campaign, Romanoff would've had a chance. But, really, suburban Denverites in Jefferson, Araphoe and Adams counties hold a ton of weight, and they're gonna vote Hickenlooper.

[Zurkerx]

Biden tends to do well when scripted: it helps keep him focused. The big question is whether he can maintain his composure when he doesn't have a teleprompter. That'll be a the big test come the debates and more interviews. I have yet to watch it but I did hear good things as well as Biden contrasting himself to Trump.



It should be interesting to see if Hickenlooper wins or not though he'll likely be the nominee.

Had the accusations against Hickenlooper really stuck earlier in the campaign, Romanoff would've had a chance. But, really, suburban Denverites in Jefferson, Araphoe and Adams counties hold a ton of weight, and they're gonna vote Hickenlooper.

Well, you aren't wrong based on what I'm seeing on the NYT Map. Medicaid Expansion in Oklahoma is leading with a Yes, 54.8% to 45.2% No.

[Major-Tom]

Had the accusations against Hickenlooper really stuck earlier in the campaign, Romanoff would've had a chance. But, really, suburban Denverites in Jefferson, Araphoe and Adams counties hold a ton of weight, and they're gonna vote Hickenlooper.

Well, you aren't wrong based on what I'm seeing on the NYT Map. Medicaid Expansion in Oklahoma is leading with a Yes, 54.8% to 45.2% No.

Fingers crossed it passes - state level Medicaid expansion is incremental progress in terms of healthcare reform, but it's a tangible progress nonetheless, especially in red states where it gets put to referendum.

[Shrillland]

A couple more calls to make:

Dem CO-Senate: John Hickenlooper
Dem CO-3(Pueblo-Grand Junction): Diane Mitsch Bush
GOP OK-5(Oklahoma City Central): NOM-Terry Neese and Stephanie Bice go on to August 25 runoff

[Shrillland]

Well, you aren't wrong based on what I'm seeing on the NYT Map. Medicaid Expansion in Oklahoma is leading with a Yes, 54.8% to 45.2% No.

Fingers crossed it passes - state level Medicaid expansion is incremental progress in terms of healthcare reform, but it's a tangible progress nonetheless, especially in red states where it gets put to referendum.

I've already called is as passing, even though the lead for Yes narrows, Oklahoma City's still got a lot of votes waiting.

Meanwhile, in Colorado, it looks like Scott Tipton may be losing is primary to Lauren Boebert, but I'm waiting for more votes first. Boebert owns a restaurant where everyone on staff is required to open carry, and she's a QAnon supporter according to NYT.

[Cisairse]

SQ 802(Oklahoma): Approved

Woah

[Zurkerx]

Fingers crossed it passes - state level Medicaid expansion is incremental progress in terms of healthcare reform, but it's a tangible progress nonetheless, especially in red states where it gets put to referendum.

I've already called is as passing, even though the lead for Yes narrows, Oklahoma City's still got a lot of votes waiting.

Meanwhile, in Colorado, it looks like Scott Tipton may be losing is primary to Lauren Boebert, but I'm waiting for more votes first. Boebert owns a restaurant where everyone on staff is required to open carry, and she's a QAnon supporter according to NYT.

Hmm, looks like a district that goes back and forth. Quite interesting the GOP in that area would be fond of her. Is that District that red? And this person I'm assuming is going to beat Tipton for the GOP Nomination?

[Shrillland]

One more call to make:

GOP CO-3(Pueblo-Grand Junction): Lauren Boebert

Incumbent Scott Tipton has lost his primary.

[Shrillland]

I've already called is as passing, even though the lead for Yes narrows, Oklahoma City's still got a lot of votes waiting.

Meanwhile, in Colorado, it looks like Scott Tipton may be losing is primary to Lauren Boebert, but I'm waiting for more votes first. Boebert owns a restaurant where everyone on staff is required to open carry, and she's a QAnon supporter according to NYT.

Hmm, looks like a district that goes back and forth. Quite interesting the GOP in that area would be fond of her. Is that District that red? And this person I'm assuming is going to beat Tipton for the GOP Nomination?

She has beat him, yes. Pueblo-Grand Junction is divided between ultra-small-government ranchers and hunters on one corner, standard western archconservatives in another, and ultra-wealthy liberals in all the ski resort towns, which actually make enough of the population to change things on occasion.

[Zurkerx]

Hmm, looks like a district that goes back and forth. Quite interesting the GOP in that area would be fond of her. Is that District that red? And this person I'm assuming is going to beat Tipton for the GOP Nomination?

She has beat him, yes. Pueblo-Grand Junction is divided between ultra-small-government ranchers and hunters on one corner, standard western archconservatives in another, and ultra-wealthy liberals in all the ski resort towns, which actually make enough of the population to change things on occasion.

So, three different nations in one? Interesting. That has to be quite an area to live in then, and quite drastic change of scenery when one goes to another part. So, I take it this race will be a toss-up then despite Boebart's QAnon views?

[Shrillland]

She has beat him, yes. Pueblo-Grand Junction is divided between ultra-small-government ranchers and hunters on one corner, standard western archconservatives in another, and ultra-wealthy liberals in all the ski resort towns, which actually make enough of the population to change things on occasion.

So, three different nations in one? Interesting. That has to be quite an area to live in then, and quite drastic change of scenery when one goes to another part. So, I take it this race will be a toss-up then despite Boebart's QAnon views?

Because of them, not despite them. If Tipton had won tonight, he'd have won an albeit close general matchup against Bush. As it is, Boebert's main draw has been on gun legislation and how Tipton hasn't been vocal enough against Colorado's increased gun control measures as the state's turned ever bluer. Now, it's completely up in the air.

[San Lumen]

One more call to make:

GOP CO-3(Pueblo-Grand Junction): Lauren Boebert

Incumbent Scott Tipton has lost his primary.

If this is official this would be the second time a trump endorsed candidate lost

[Shrillland]

One more call to make:

GOP CO-3(Pueblo-Grand Junction): Lauren Boebert

Incumbent Scott Tipton has lost his primary.

If this is official this would be the second time a trump endorsed candidate lost

And the third time a QAnon follower goes one and goes all.

[San Lumen]

If this is official this would be the second time a trump endorsed candidate lost

And the third time a QAnon follower goes one and goes all.

She’s got a chance of winning through. We won’t know about Greene in Georgia until August

[Shrillland]

Polls are now closed in Utah.

SQ 802 in Oklahoma is back in the uncalled category as the count is within 9,000 votes and getting tighter at 83%.

[Zurkerx]

So, three different nations in one? Interesting. That has to be quite an area to live in then, and quite drastic change of scenery when one goes to another part. So, I take it this race will be a toss-up then despite Boebart's QAnon views?

Because of them, not despite them. If Tipton had won tonight, he'd have won an albeit close general matchup against Bush. As it is, Boebert's main draw has been on gun legislation and how Tipton hasn't been vocal enough against Colorado's increased gun control measures as the state's turned ever bluer. Now, it's completely up in the air.

Then we shall see how this will turnout given Colorado mostly votes by mail. I don't know the exact population for each of those three areas, but I think given her views, I'm going to say Bush has the slight advantage as of now. Of course, I don't know the area so take my opinion with a grain of salt but I can't picture someone these kind of views winning unless it's a really, really dark red area.

[Shrillland]

Because of them, not despite them. If Tipton had won tonight, he'd have won an albeit close general matchup against Bush. As it is, Boebert's main draw has been on gun legislation and how Tipton hasn't been vocal enough against Colorado's increased gun control measures as the state's turned ever bluer. Now, it's completely up in the air.

Then we shall see how this will turnout given Colorado mostly votes by mail. I don't know the exact population for each of those three areas, but I think given her views, I'm going to say Bush has the slight advantage as of now. Of course, I don't know the area so take my opinion with a grain of salt but I can't picture someone these kind of views winning unless it's a really, really dark red area.

According to NYT, she also temporarily lost her food licence because she's one of those who decided to open her restaurant before they were allowed to open back up because freedom.

[South Odreria 2]

The left constantly runs scared of the notion of “electability” and takes for granted that it’s a weakness in primaries. We need to embrace the concept because leftwing candidates genuinely are more electable in a lot of places.

[Shrillland]

Apparently, we won't be getting anything out of Utah until after midnight EDT.

[Cisairse]

The left constantly runs scared of the notion of “electability” and takes for granted that it’s a weakness in primaries. We need to embrace the concept because leftwing candidates genuinely are more electable in a lot of places.

Yeah almost all of my right-wing friends who hate the Democrats have recently told me that they would have happily cast a vote for Yang, Sanders, or Warren against Trump, but are now planning on voting for Jo.

[Outer Sparta]

The left constantly runs scared of the notion of “electability” and takes for granted that it’s a weakness in primaries. We need to embrace the concept because leftwing candidates genuinely are more electable in a lot of places.

It's all about running the best candidate for each district. A unique progressive candidate could run in swing districts if they have a certain appeal, but those are rare to find.

[San Lumen]

Apparently, we won't be getting anything out of Utah until after midnight EDT.

A recently passed law does not allow returns to be released for two hours after polls closed. Why I do not know.

[Shrillland]

Apparently, we won't be getting anything out of Utah until after midnight EDT.

A recently passed law does not allow returns to be released for two hours after polls closed. Why I do not know.

Most likely to make sure that at least a significant part of each county has been counted before folks like us make predictions and get them wrong. As it is, there's only one race there most of us are watching.