2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Northern Davincia]

The LP certainly doesn't

At best they think Aleppo is a fancy pepper.

And Clinton dodged sniper fire.

After shouting Benghazi at Democrats for a while, would the Congressional GOP even know at this point that Benghazi is a city in Libya?

Wouldn't be surprised if they think it's a Harry Potter spell that hurts Democrats somehow.

Is Susan Rice not in the trash heap of history after taking her actions into account?

[No State Here]

The LP certainly doesn't

At best they think Aleppo is a fancy pepper.

Johnson gets mocked for a single gaffe, but looking at the two main candidates in 2020, you can’t possibly do worse than that

At best they think Aleppo is a fancy pepper.

Host: We welcome you back to Who Wants to be a Millionaire and we're featuring Gary Johnson! Next up for Mr. Johnson is on the $2,000 question. If he gets it right, he advances, if he gets it wrong, he drops down to nothing. Here's the question:
Aleppo is
A. a city
B. a soup
C. an animal
D. a video game console
Johnson: Well, hmm, I don't know.
Host: That's too bad! The correct answer is A. Unfortunately, you leave with nothing, Mr. Johnson.

C’mon you should at least try

[Zurkerx]

US Attorney who the Justice Department said was resigning, has stated that he’s not leaving and will continue his investigations

Ah so that's why Barr went to NY: he was trying to get Berman to resign. It didn't work. I'm quite surprise they would falsely announce he "resigned". It looks like Trump is trying to stall or stop the investigations into him and his subordinates. Those investigations? Cohen, Giuliani, Parnas & Fruman, and a Turkish Bank that was mentioned by Bolton in his new book. Not to mention, the person Trump tends to replace him literally has no prosecutor experience so this reeks of corruption.

[Outer Sparta]

At best they think Aleppo is a fancy pepper.

Johnson gets mocked for a single gaffe, but looking at the two main candidates in 2020, you can’t possibly do worse than that

Host: We welcome you back to Who Wants to be a Millionaire and we're featuring Gary Johnson! Next up for Mr. Johnson is on the $2,000 question. If he gets it right, he advances, if he gets it wrong, he drops down to nothing. Here's the question:
Aleppo is
A. a city
B. a soup
C. an animal
D. a video game console
Johnson: Well, hmm, I don't know.
Host: That's too bad! The correct answer is A. Unfortunately, you leave with nothing, Mr. Johnson.

C’mon you should at least try

Maybe Gary Johnson should have tried when all he needed to do was a simple geography research. Then again, Trump has asked whether Finland's a part of Russia, so I guess you can't get worse than that?

[Neutraligon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytxgEN2 ... nardFrench I wonder if this will effect things.

[Vassenor]

US Attorney who the Justice Department said was resigning, has stated that he’s not leaving and will continue his investigations

Ah so that's why Barr went to NY: he was trying to get Berman to resign. It didn't work. I'm quite surprise they would falsely announce he "resigned". It looks like Trump is trying to stall or stop the investigations into him and his subordinates. Those investigations? Cohen, Giuliani, Parnas & Fruman, and a Turkish Bank that was mentioned by Bolton in his new book. Not to mention, the person Trump tends to replace him literally has no prosecutor experience so this reeks of corruption.

Plus Trump himself once he leaves office.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytxgEN2znC0&ab_channel=LawfulMasseswithLeonardFrench I wonder if this will effect things.

Text story about same

Colorado:
Body cams required
Something about unlawful use of force
State cause of action to negate qualified immunity

[Zurkerx]

Trying to predict Biden's veep? The conventional wisdom is usually wrong.

This is an interesting article. Essentially, the picks we thought the eventual nominees would pick tend to be wrong; the only exception was Tim Kaine in 2016. So, while Harris seems to be that choice, there's a good chance we can be caught off guard by a different choice. Time will tell given that sometime in July, we should have an idea who his Top 3 choices are via leak.

[San Lumen]

Trying to predict Biden's veep? The conventional wisdom is usually wrong.

This is an interesting article. Essentially, the picks we thought the eventual nominees would pick tend to be wrong; the only exception was Tim Kaine in 2016. So, while Harris seems to be that choice, there's a good chance we can be caught off guard by a different choice. Time will tell given that sometime in July, we should have an idea who his Top 3 choices are via leak.

Very true. I remember back in 2000 every insider and pundit was saying Elizabeth Dole would be Bush’s pick and then he selects Cheney the man in charge of his veep committee

[Galloism]

California assembly votes to repeal state antidiscrimination provisions, moves question to state senate.

(Fixed me not reading. )

[San Lumen]

California legislature votes to repeal state antidiscrimination provisions, moves question to state ballot for November.

I’m confused as to why they’d want to repeal this

[Galloism]

California legislature votes to repeal state antidiscrimination provisions, moves question to state ballot for November.

I’m confused as to why they’d want to repeal this

Because they can’t discriminate in hiring or contracting based on gender, race, etc, and they want to.

[Shrillland]

California legislature votes to repeal state antidiscrimination provisions, moves question to state ballot for November.

Not quite yet, the Senate still has to pass it.

[Shrillland]

California legislature votes to repeal state antidiscrimination provisions, moves question to state ballot for November.

I’m confused as to why they’d want to repeal this

Mostly because these measures, as written, are often used to block affirmative action policies. When Prop 209 was passed in 1996, the main argument was that affirmative action was a form of reverse racism.

[Galloism]

California legislature votes to repeal state antidiscrimination provisions, moves question to state ballot for November.

Not quite yet, the Senate still has to pass it.

Sorry, yes, you’re right I’ll fix it.

[Thermodolia]

California legislature votes to repeal state antidiscrimination provisions, moves question to state senate.

(Fixed me not reading. )

I can see absolutely no way this will backfire in a major way. Not at all

[Shrillland]

California legislature votes to repeal state antidiscrimination provisions, moves question to state senate.

(Fixed me not reading. )

I can see absolutely no way this will backfire in a major way. Not at all

Well, the state's other antidiscrimination laws will remain in effect, this will primarily be used to clear the way for the state and state agencies to implement affirmative action policies, which they are currently unable to do.

[Galloism]

I can see absolutely no way this will backfire in a major way. Not at all

Well, the state's other antidiscrimination laws will remain in effect, this will primarily be used to clear the way for the state and state agencies to implement affirmative action policies, which they are currently unable to do.

(Otherwise known as racist policies)

[Thermodolia]

I can see absolutely no way this will backfire in a major way. Not at all

Well, the state's other antidiscrimination laws will remain in effect, this will primarily be used to clear the way for the state and state agencies to implement affirmative action policies, which they are currently unable to do.

Right which there is no possible way that could backfire.

[Galloism]

Well, the state's other antidiscrimination laws will remain in effect, this will primarily be used to clear the way for the state and state agencies to implement affirmative action policies, which they are currently unable to do.

Right which there is no possible way that could backfire.

I actually used to be in favor of affirmative action, correcting historical wrongs and all that.

But a few years ago there was a study comparing how affirmative action programs affect racial attitudes and perceptions of competence and capability in a college context.

It wasn’t good. Essentially, affirmative action in that context sets people of all races up for a lifetime of racial assumptions and animus, and assumptions of some races as better (Asians) and others as worse (typically African American).

It actually makes the problem worse that it was trying to improve. I wouldn’t suspect in state hiring/contracting it would be any better.

[Dorchester and Sussex]

Clinton came off as condescending, out of touch, lacks empathy, and is arrogant, which led to her approval being around what Trump had in 2016. Hell, a freaking rock can relate better than she can.

Biden is the complete opposite of most of those qualities so this time will be different for Trump. Like Clinton, Biden is well defined but unlike her, Biden is much more liked. While I do suspect this 13 point gap will close in terms of Trump's favorability and as we near the election, Biden is building a coalition that he hopes to retain in the long term, one he seems to be building more and more every day. He still needs to figure out how to excite voters overall, especially young people, progressives, and Latinos, but overall, he's in a much better position than Clinton was at this point; it pays off being the nominee earlier.

Joe Biden may not have as much of a problem among young voters as you think. Biden leads Trump by double-digit percentages among all voters under the age of 44, including leading Trump by 24.1 points among 18-29 year olds (which is better than Hillary polled among that group).
Biden leads all voters under age 49 easily, with a clear negative trend of support the older you go. However, Biden's increased levels of support among older people compared to H. Clinton may be enough to deliver him a comfortable victory on its own.

[Thermodolia]

Right which there is no possible way that could backfire.

I actually used to be in favor of affirmative action, correcting historical wrongs and all that.

But a few years ago there was a study comparing how affirmative action programs affect racial attitudes and perceptions of competence and capability in a college context.

It wasn’t good. Essentially, affirmative action in that context sets people of all races up for a lifetime of racial assumptions and animus, and assumptions of some races as better (Asians) and others as worse (typically African American).

It actually makes the problem worse that it was trying to improve. I wouldn’t suspect in state hiring/contracting it would be any better.

Don’t mistake my sarcasm for affirmation. Affirmative action is a horribly racist policy

[Crockerland]

I’m confused as to why they’d want to repeal this

Mostly because these measures, as written, are often used to block affirmative action policies. When Prop 209 was passed in 1996, the main argument was that affirmative action was a form of reverse racism.

Antidiscrimination laws are blocking discrimination? So they're doing their job.

[Galloism]

I actually used to be in favor of affirmative action, correcting historical wrongs and all that.

But a few years ago there was a study comparing how affirmative action programs affect racial attitudes and perceptions of competence and capability in a college context.

It wasn’t good. Essentially, affirmative action in that context sets people of all races up for a lifetime of racial assumptions and animus, and assumptions of some races as better (Asians) and others as worse (typically African American).

It actually makes the problem worse that it was trying to improve. I wouldn’t suspect in state hiring/contracting it would be any better.

Don’t mistake my sarcasm for affirmation. Affirmative action is a horribly racist policy

Oh I picked up on it. I’m just pointing out it has really bad effects - and explicitly on the people it was trying to help.

[San Lumen]

Joe Biden may not have as much of a problem among young voters as you think. Biden leads Trump by double-digit percentages among all voters under the age of 44, including leading Trump by 24.1 points among 18-29 year olds (which is better than Hillary polled among that group).
Biden leads all voters under age 49 easily, with a clear negative trend of support the older you go. However, Biden's increased levels of support among older people compared to H. Clinton may be enough to deliver him a comfortable victory on its own.
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hopefully it holds in November