Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

[Kyapo]

U.S. Coronavirus deaths top 100,000, reaching a grim milestone.

This is what making America great again involves? 100,000 dead Americans?

It seems so, though this is only the down payment, the full bill is yet to come.

[Rojava Free State]

This is what making America great again involves? 100,000 dead Americans?

It seems so, though this is only the down payment, the full bill is yet to come.

I don't know if we can survive another four years of Trump. 100,000 or more of us didn't survive the first four years of this bonzo the chimp looking motherfucker at the helm.

[Kyapo]

It seems so, though this is only the down payment, the full bill is yet to come.

I don't know if we can survive another four years of Trump. 100,000 or more of us didn't survive the first four years of this bonzo the chimp looking motherfucker at the helm.

It is terrifying how he is allowed to lie and cheat and isn't pulled up on it. He has made your whole nation a laughing stock and also many fear for the population, virus and beyond. His twitter spat is I hope going to blow up in his face, though I fear not.
Going to interesting how history writes him up regarding the pandemic.

[San Lumen]

It seems so, though this is only the down payment, the full bill is yet to come.

I don't know if we can survive another four years of Trump. 100,000 or more of us didn't survive the first four years of this bonzo the chimp looking motherfucker at the helm.

We can't. He must be defeated.

[The Lone Alliance]

It seems so, though this is only the down payment, the full bill is yet to come.

I don't know if we can survive another four years of Trump. 100,000 or more of us didn't survive the first four years of this bonzo the chimp looking motherfucker at the helm.

We likely would have had at least 70,000 dead no matter who was President simply because of how ass backwards our politics are, how fast this virus advanced, just how many old people we have, and the subpar state of our healthcare system.

That still adds a good 30,000+ to Trump and the constant infighting the US has because of him.

[Rojava Free State]

I don't know if we can survive another four years of Trump. 100,000 or more of us didn't survive the first four years of this bonzo the chimp looking motherfucker at the helm.

We likely would have had at least 70,000 dead no matter who was President simply because of how ass backwards our politics are, how fast this virus advanced, just how many old people we have, and the subpar state of our healthcare system.

That still adds a good 30,000+ to Trump and the constant infighting the US has because of him.

It's not even done yet either. People are still dying.

[The Lone Alliance]

We likely would have had at least 70,000 dead no matter who was President simply because of how ass backwards our politics are, how fast this virus advanced, just how many old people we have, and the subpar state of our healthcare system.

That still adds a good 30,000+ to Trump and the constant infighting the US has because of him.

It's not even done yet either. People are still dying.

Looks like the US is looking at a similar death rate to the last two major Chinese based viral outbreaks that became a Pandemic.

US lost around 100,000 to the Hong Kong Flu and around 70,000 to 116,000 to the 1958 Flu outbreak.

I guess we'll be lucky if we don't pass the latter mark.... Here's "Hoping".

[San Lumen]

It's not even done yet either. People are still dying.

Looks like the US is looking at a similar death rate to the last two major Chinese based viral outbreaks that became a Pandemic.

US lost around 100,000 to the Hong Kong Flu and around 70,000 to 116,000 to the 1958 Flu outbreak.

I’ve been wondering why nothing was shut down during those two pandemics. Woodstock was held in 1968 an event that changed music forever

[The Lone Alliance]

Looks like the US is looking at a similar death rate to the last two major Chinese based viral outbreaks that became a Pandemic.

US lost around 100,000 to the Hong Kong Flu and around 70,000 to 116,000 to the 1958 Flu outbreak.

I’ve been wondering why nothing why nothing was shut down during those two pandemics. Woodstock was held in 1968 an event that changed music forever

Because we didn't have the 24 hour news cycle and Social Media to partly make people so hysterical. Most people didn't really know about it or how bad it was.

[Fartsniffage]

The US has broken 100,000 deaths.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52775216

[Neanderthaland]

The US has broken 100,000 deaths.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52775216

We're bound to hit WWI levels. Let's try to keep it under WWII.

[Zurkerx]

It's not even done yet either. People are still dying.

Looks like the US is looking at a similar death rate to the last two major Chinese based viral outbreaks that became a Pandemic.

US lost around 100,000 to the Hong Kong Flu and around 70,000 to 116,000 to the 1958 Flu outbreak.

I guess we'll be lucky if we don't pass the latter mark.... Here's "Hoping".

The deaths accumulated between those two Pandemics range from a 1-2 years and at the conclusion of said Pandemics, the total deaths came from two to three waves; COVID-19 has killed 100,000 in under 4 months and we haven't even been hit with a second wave yet nor has the Pandemic concluded. If we were to follow what they did during those two pandemics, we would have by far more deaths, especially since we have a larger older population now then we did 50-60 years ago. Different times call for different measures and to ignore these key differences and say "hey look, the numbers are similar to these other pandemics" is honestly disingenuous.

[Vetalia]

The deaths accumulated between those two Pandemics range from a 1-2 years and at the conclusion of said Pandemics, the total deaths came from two to three waves; COVID-19 has killed 100,000 in under 4 months and we haven't even been hit with a second wave yet nor has the Pandemic concluded. If we were to follow what they did during those two pandemics, we would have by far more deaths, especially since we have a larger older population now then we did 50-60 years ago. Different times call for different measures and to ignore these key differences and say "hey look, the numbers are similar to these other pandemics" is honestly disingenuous.

Maybe then those older people need to self-isolate while this runs its course? I don't really see any logical reason why we should lock down everyone else who isn't vulnerable for their sake.

[Rojava Free State]

The US has broken 100,000 deaths.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52775216

We're bound to hit WWI levels. Let's try to keep it under WWII.

We already passed world War I.

[Neanderthaland]

The deaths accumulated between those two Pandemics range from a 1-2 years and at the conclusion of said Pandemics, the total deaths came from two to three waves; COVID-19 has killed 100,000 in under 4 months and we haven't even been hit with a second wave yet nor has the Pandemic concluded. If we were to follow what they did during those two pandemics, we would have by far more deaths, especially since we have a larger older population now then we did 50-60 years ago. Different times call for different measures and to ignore these key differences and say "hey look, the numbers are similar to these other pandemics" is honestly disingenuous.

Maybe then those older people need to self-isolate while this runs its course? I don't really see any logical reason why we should lock down everyone else who isn't vulnerable for their sake.

Most of them are. But no man is an island. If the few people they come into contact with aren't taking precautions, then their efforts may be for naught.

[Vetalia]

We already passed world War I.

116,000 Americans died from Asian flu?

[ImperialRussia]

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[Neanderthaland]

We're bound to hit WWI levels. Let's try to keep it under WWII.

We already passed world War I.

WWI is 116,000 Dead. We're at 101,000. So not yet.

But at this point, it's more or less inevitable that we will.

[Rojava Free State]

We already passed world War I.

116,000 Americans died from Asian flu?

My bad. I got Vietnam and WWI mixed up, cause I'm exhausted.

[Vetalia]

Most of them are. But no man is an island. If the few people they come into contact with aren't taking precautions, then their efforts may be for naught.

Exactly. This is what angers me so much about this whole situation...we know who is vulnerable but have consistently and repeatedly failed to take action to protect these people. Lock down nursing homes and LTC care facilities, ban visits, test employees and residents repeatedly, prioritize equipment in order to protect those people....the rest of us can weather this without any real consequences and when the storm passes lift the restrictions as the mortality rate for people under 65 is essentially negligible.

Make it abundantly clear that if you interact closely with older people and go out stay away from them until this is past. I have a higher chance of dying from a car accident than COVID but that doesn't mean I'm going to head out to the nursing home for a visit afterward.

FFS, Cuomo was flat out executing people in these nursing homes by forcing them to take infected patients.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Sadly, my mom is one of those people now who say shit like “this virus bullshit is dumb, the flu has killed more people!” and all I can do is

[Vetalia]

My bad. I got Vietnam and WWI mixed up, cause I'm exhausted.

You must be exhausted, because Vietnam was lower than WWI.

[Luminesa]

Most of them are. But no man is an island. If the few people they come into contact with aren't taking precautions, then their efforts may be for naught.

Exactly. This is what angers me so much about this whole situation...we know who is vulnerable but have consistently and repeatedly failed to take action to protect these people. Lock down nursing homes and LTC care facilities, ban visits, test employees and residents repeatedly, prioritize equipment in order to protect those people....the rest of us can weather this without any real consequences and when the storm passes lift the restrictions as the mortality rate for people under 65 is essentially negligible.

Make it abundantly clear that if you interact closely with older people and go out stay away from them until this is past. I have a higher chance of dying from a car accident than COVID but that doesn't mean I'm going to head out to the nursing home for a visit afterward.

FFS, Cuomo was flat out executing people in these nursing homes by forcing them to take infected patients.

It's so disgusting. It's like...they've seen that the disaster has started, and has been perpetuated, in nursing homes...but they refuse to do anything about it.

[Zurkerx]

The deaths accumulated between those two Pandemics range from a 1-2 years and at the conclusion of said Pandemics, the total deaths came from two to three waves; COVID-19 has killed 100,000 in under 4 months and we haven't even been hit with a second wave yet nor has the Pandemic concluded. If we were to follow what they did during those two pandemics, we would have by far more deaths, especially since we have a larger older population now then we did 50-60 years ago. Different times call for different measures and to ignore these key differences and say "hey look, the numbers are similar to these other pandemics" is honestly disingenuous.

Maybe then those older people need to self-isolate while this runs its course? I don't really see any logical reason why we should lock down everyone else who isn't vulnerable for their sake.

Because as someone has pointed out, that self-isolation becomes naught when someone infected comes near them. Look, I know younger people are far less likely to die from this, but they can carry it and still spread it: and some of those people don't show symptoms. What we should have done (and still haven't) is do what Germany and South Korea have done: test everyone. Test people with mild symptoms and test people with no symptoms and Christ, test people that have come into contact with infected people. If positive, we then isolate them to ensure they don't infect others. That's the blueprint to minimizing death and infected, and to ensure we can open up safely. But until we can fully achieve that, some places need to be locked down harder than others and open up more slowly. Otherwise, we're taking a massive gamble, one that will likely be lethal to those most vulnerable in society.

[Valrifell]

The US has broken 100,000 deaths.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52775216

We're bound to hit WWI levels. Let's try to keep it under WWII.

We're already above combat deaths for WW1.