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Have you or anyone in your vincinity been affected by COVID-19?

I don't know anyone who has been diagnosed with COVID-19
288
44%
I know someone was diagnosed with COVID-19
152
23%
Someone very close to me was diagnosed with COVID-19
39
6%
I know someone who was hospitalized with COVID-19
59
9%
Someone very close to me was hospitalized with COVID-19
27
4%
I was diagnosed with COVID-19
22
3%
I was hospitalized with COVID-19
8
1%
I don't know/unsure/other
55
8%
 
Total votes : 650

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Postby San Lumen » Sun May 03, 2020 5:52 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Albrenia wrote:It's unfortunate that the lifting of protective measures is likely to make those places in a rush to 'get back to work as a nation' those who will have the longest lasting and most economically damaging effects. Not to mention the massive body count, although a disturbing number of people don't seem to even consider that in the calculations.

People rushing in droves to the stores for Jordans proves to me we just need more restrictions for people to actually remain safe. Some people are too stupid with their freedoms and need them restricted.

What sort of restrictions?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun May 03, 2020 5:53 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
In maintaining Rt, how many are getting sick versus how many are getting well? Yes. All states in green are maintaining good curves here.

Some parishes have seen rises in cases, in Louisiana, but it seems our latest spike of 700 cases in one day was due to positive cases being released from a backlog of several weeks. I imagine state-testing is to blame.


Back logs don’t help, yes.
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Postby Luminesa » Sun May 03, 2020 5:54 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Luminesa wrote:People rushing in droves to the stores for Jordans proves to me we just need more restrictions for people to actually remain safe. Some people are too stupid with their freedoms and need them restricted.


But-but- Lumi, “muh haircut”!

I've never seen crowds that big at a Jimmy Jazz, even on a normal day. Not even Black Friday. Retail therapy has only so many benefits, until it becomes risking your life for flipping overpriced sneakers.
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Postby Luminesa » Sun May 03, 2020 5:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Luminesa wrote:People rushing in droves to the stores for Jordans proves to me we just need more restrictions for people to actually remain safe. Some people are too stupid with their freedoms and need them restricted.

What sort of restrictions?

Allowing only certain numbers of people in the store, forbidding anyone to enter without a mask, and shorter hours.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun May 03, 2020 5:56 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
But-but- Lumi, “muh haircut”!

I've never seen crowds that big at a Jimmy Jazz, even on a normal day. Not even Black Friday. Retail therapy has only so many benefits, until it becomes risking your life for flipping overpriced sneakers.


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Postby Luminesa » Sun May 03, 2020 6:01 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I've never seen crowds that big at a Jimmy Jazz, even on a normal day. Not even Black Friday. Retail therapy has only so many benefits, until it becomes risking your life for flipping overpriced sneakers.


Just sit here with me and Darwin. Let’s watch this play out. We have pop corn.
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I bought a whole bag of packs of Skinny Popcorn with Amazon Pantry, don't worry. But if ya'll got the good stuff with the caramel please feel free to share! :lol:
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Postby San Lumen » Sun May 03, 2020 6:02 pm

Luminesa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:What sort of restrictions?

Allowing only certain numbers of people in the store, forbidding anyone to enter without a mask, and shorter hours.

Yeah let’s cut into their profits and put them out of business. Wearing a mask should not be mandatory. There is conflicting evidence they do anything

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Postby Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 6:04 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Allowing only certain numbers of people in the store, forbidding anyone to enter without a mask, and shorter hours.

Yeah let’s cut into their profits and put them out of business. Wearing a mask should not be mandatory. There is conflicting evidence they do anything


People over profits, mate.
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Postby Galloism » Sun May 03, 2020 6:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Allowing only certain numbers of people in the store, forbidding anyone to enter without a mask, and shorter hours.

Yeah let’s cut into their profits and put them out of business. Wearing a mask should not be mandatory. There is conflicting evidence they do anything

The cdc advice is quite clear.
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Postby Luminesa » Sun May 03, 2020 6:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Allowing only certain numbers of people in the store, forbidding anyone to enter without a mask, and shorter hours.

Yeah let’s cut into their profits and put them out of business. Wearing a mask should not be mandatory. There is conflicting evidence they do anything

It won't cut profits for them to shorten hours, not with the kinda money they're making on Air Jordans. Wearing a mask does help to some extent. It does prevent you from breathing on other people and transmitting the virus. When I had pneumonia in November, I had to wear a mask to go out. Not because I could catch things from other people, but because I could get others ill. (Though I very well could have caught something.)
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 03, 2020 6:07 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Allowing only certain numbers of people in the store, forbidding anyone to enter without a mask, and shorter hours.

Yeah let’s cut into their profits and put them out of business. Wearing a mask should not be mandatory. There is conflicting evidence they do anything

Since you so desperately want to Broadway open and things like that, shouldn't you support any measures that would limit the spread of disease, the better to allow that?

Like, if every business was open as normal, but people had to wear some kind of facemask, would you be screaming that this will surely destroy the economy and make Ben Franklin's ghost shit his ghost pants?
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Postby -SARS- » Sun May 03, 2020 6:13 pm

Albrenia wrote:Hopefully even if the vaccinations only last four months or so for immunity a massive, free and mandatory (except for those who are unable to, obviously) roll-out of vaccinations might be able to eradicate the virus in a way similar to smallpox.

That might be asking a bit much though.


Smallpox took years to eradicate.

I think it's also worth noting that containing a viral outbreak is not the same as eradicating the virus. Smallpox is extinct in the wild as far as anyone knows. When people talk about SARS being "gone," that doesn't mean it's extinct. I'm still here, just have been spending some quality time with my cats.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun May 03, 2020 6:25 pm

-SARS- wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Hopefully even if the vaccinations only last four months or so for immunity a massive, free and mandatory (except for those who are unable to, obviously) roll-out of vaccinations might be able to eradicate the virus in a way similar to smallpox.

That might be asking a bit much though.


Smallpox took years to eradicate.

I think it's also worth noting that containing a viral outbreak is not the same as eradicating the virus. Smallpox is extinct in the wild as far as anyone knows. When people talk about SARS being "gone," that doesn't mean it's extinct. I'm still here, just have been spending some quality time with my cats.


It took just shy of two centuries from creation of the first vaccine to eradication.
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Postby Diahon » Sun May 03, 2020 6:54 pm

Aureumterra wrote:So Trevor Noah basically called the paycheck to paycheck workers who are at risk of losing their jobs and want things to reopen "dumb rednecks"


it's less their fault at this point in time and more a fault of the american system

i mean, swallowing republican lies about this contagion and the response to it is no good look on them, and so is their revulsion against slightly anything leftist or civic-minded as well as their disdain for collective responsibility as a counterpart for rights in general, the logical conclusion of a libertarianism that does not care about the corruption of all spheres of human activity other than the individual, so long as the individual is free to do as he wishes -- but really, when your welfare state is so threadbare to begin with, and what aid your government has agreed to dole out is so minuscule and/or tied up in vagueness, is there any wonder people are out protesting?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun May 03, 2020 7:08 pm

Diahon wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:So Trevor Noah basically called the paycheck to paycheck workers who are at risk of losing their jobs and want things to reopen "dumb rednecks"


it's less their fault at this point in time and more a fault of the american system

i mean, swallowing republican lies about this contagion and the response to it is no good look on them, and so is their revulsion against slightly anything leftist or civic-minded as well as their disdain for collective responsibility as a counterpart for rights in general, the logical conclusion of a libertarianism that does not care about the corruption of all spheres of human activity other than the individual, so long as the individual is free to do as he wishes -- but really, when your welfare state is so threadbare to begin with, and what aid your government has agreed to dole out is so minuscule and/or tied up in vagueness, is there any wonder people are out protesting?

We Republicans and Pro Trumpers have a different view than the Democrats on Trump for obvious political reasons, just like the Democrats and anti Trumpers have a different view on Trump for their own obvious political reasons. I think most of the Protestors are Republicans and Pro Trump.
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Postby Albrenia » Sun May 03, 2020 7:11 pm

I think most of the protesters are Pro-Trump too. Which is odd, for a protest group to be decidedly pro-government.

Also the whole lack of understanding of how counter-productive massing in crowds to stop a pandemic quarantine is also points to that too.

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Postby Luminesa » Sun May 03, 2020 7:12 pm

Albrenia wrote:I think most of the protesters are Pro-Trump too. Which is odd, for a protest group to be decidedly pro-government.

Also the whole lack of understanding of how counter-productive massing in crowds to stop a pandemic quarantine is also points to that too.

Well the problem is these protests are more on a state level. None of these people care about getting sick. They don't care about anyone else but themselves.
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Postby Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 7:15 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Albrenia wrote:I think most of the protesters are Pro-Trump too. Which is odd, for a protest group to be decidedly pro-government.

Also the whole lack of understanding of how counter-productive massing in crowds to stop a pandemic quarantine is also points to that too.

Well the problem is these protests are more on a state level. None of these people care about getting sick. They don't care about anyone else but themselves.


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Postby Luminesa » Sun May 03, 2020 7:16 pm

Kannap wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Well the problem is these protests are more on a state level. None of these people care about getting sick. They don't care about anyone else but themselves.


Applebees just doesn't taste right if thousands more people aren't dying for Applebees to be allowed to open its doors.

Applebee's doesn't taste right anyway, overrated and disgusting.
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Postby Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 7:17 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Applebees just doesn't taste right if thousands more people aren't dying for Applebees to be allowed to open its doors.

Applebee's doesn't taste right anyway, overrated and disgusting.


You're preaching to the choir.
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Postby Luminesa » Sun May 03, 2020 7:20 pm

Kannap wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Applebee's doesn't taste right anyway, overrated and disgusting.


You're preaching to the choir.

Good to know! Over-salted burgers and disgusting chicken wings! Blergh! :lol:
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun May 03, 2020 7:20 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Albrenia wrote:I think most of the protesters are Pro-Trump too. Which is odd, for a protest group to be decidedly pro-government.

Also the whole lack of understanding of how counter-productive massing in crowds to stop a pandemic quarantine is also points to that too.

Well the problem is these protests are more on a state level. None of these people care about getting sick. They don't care about anyone else but themselves.

I think they do care, but they also care about their financial needs, this is the problem, we are damned if we do and damned if we don't and vice versa. Their financial needs and social distancing, wearing masks and washing hands are also necessary and I think are still part of the virus recovery laws of the Governors gradually trying to open their states economies.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 03, 2020 7:21 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Applebees just doesn't taste right if thousands more people aren't dying for Applebees to be allowed to open its doors.

Applebee's doesn't taste right anyway, overrated and disgusting.

Hey! I like that place. Longhorns and Texas Roadhouse are better though
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Postby Kannap » Sun May 03, 2020 7:21 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Kannap wrote:
You're preaching to the choir.

Good to know! Over-salted burgers and disgusting chicken wings! Blergh! :lol:


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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 03, 2020 7:22 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Kannap wrote:
You're preaching to the choir.

Good to know! Over-salted burgers and disgusting chicken wings! Blergh! :lol:

Ah that explains it I’ve never ordered burgers or chicken wings from them, nor will I ever
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