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Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

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Have you or anyone in your vincinity been affected by COVID-19?

I don't know anyone who has been diagnosed with COVID-19
300
44%
I know someone was diagnosed with COVID-19
159
23%
Someone very close to me was diagnosed with COVID-19
42
6%
I know someone who was hospitalized with COVID-19
62
9%
Someone very close to me was hospitalized with COVID-19
30
4%
I was diagnosed with COVID-19
23
3%
I was hospitalized with COVID-19
9
1%
I don't know/unsure/other
57
8%
 
Total votes : 682

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Postby The South Falls » Sat May 09, 2020 5:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://abc7ny.com/6159762/?ex_cid=TA_WABC_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

Moderna’s vaccine has gone ahead with phase two of trials. Experts say it showed impressive results

Here's to hoping we'll have a vaccine by fall.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat May 09, 2020 5:03 pm

The South Falls wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://abc7ny.com/6159762/?ex_cid=TA_WABC_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

Moderna’s vaccine has gone ahead with phase two of trials. Experts say it showed impressive results

Here's to hoping we'll have a vaccine by fall.

I hope we do as well. That would amazing

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Postby -SARS- » Sat May 09, 2020 5:03 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yes
Those were different. We also had a pandemic response team that Obama set up that Trump dismantled. Plus Ebola is not airborne so there would have been no reason to take such measures.


Naive thinking that response team would have made any serious impact considering Chinas actions and the who to fuck over information.


China's actions do not explain why the US is doing so much worse than somewhere like South Korea. Countries that had some sort of pandemic response plan ready to go have been able to slow the spread a lot more effectively, even if they still have a few cases here or there.
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Postby -SARS- » Sat May 09, 2020 5:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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I am airborne.

Also, the first COVID cases appeared in the US before people had a clear picture of just how contagious and how deadly it was.

Dismantling the pandemic response team was dumb, but if you were president, you could have fixed that. Then you would not need to be closing the borders every time someone gets a weird infection.

Yes true. I would have never dismantled it but closing the borders in January would have likely prevented much of this


Hindsight is 20/20.
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Postby Kannap » Sat May 09, 2020 5:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Here's to hoping we'll have a vaccine by fall.

I hope we do as well. That would amazing


"Fauci has cautioned that even if everything goes perfectly, 12 to 18 months to develop a vaccine would set a speed record."


by the autumn of 2021 maybe
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Postby San Lumen » Sat May 09, 2020 5:22 pm

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I hope we do as well. That would amazing


"Fauci has cautioned that even if everything goes perfectly, 12 to 18 months to develop a vaccine would set a speed record."


by the autumn of 2021 maybe

maybe they can get it done even faster.

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Sat May 09, 2020 5:24 pm

Probably somewhere around a year and a half from when the virus started
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Postby Albrenia » Sat May 09, 2020 5:27 pm

Dr. Fauci has usurped the title of My Favourite Person Who Works (or Worked) In the Trump White House from Sean Spicer.

Dude's a legend.

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Postby -SARS- » Sat May 09, 2020 5:31 pm

Albrenia wrote:Dr. Fauci has usurped the title of My Favourite Person Who Works (or Worked) In the Trump White House from Sean Spicer.

Dude's a legend.


He's probably a lot of people's favorite person in the Trump White House right now.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat May 09, 2020 5:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kannap wrote:
"Fauci has cautioned that even if everything goes perfectly, 12 to 18 months to develop a vaccine would set a speed record."


by the autumn of 2021 maybe

maybe they can get it done even faster.

Do you want things to go wrong? Because this is how you get things to go wrong.
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Postby Bombadil » Sat May 09, 2020 5:32 pm

Albrenia wrote:Dr. Fauci has usurped the title of My Favourite Person Who Works (or Worked) In the Trump White House from Sean Spicer.

Dude's a legend.


One word.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat May 09, 2020 5:33 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Dr. Fauci has usurped the title of My Favourite Person Who Works (or Worked) In the Trump White House from Sean Spicer.

Dude's a legend.


One word.

Scaramucci.

Meh I'm not into mere scums of the Earth.
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Postby Albrenia » Sat May 09, 2020 5:34 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Dr. Fauci has usurped the title of My Favourite Person Who Works (or Worked) In the Trump White House from Sean Spicer.

Dude's a legend.


One word.

Scaramucci.


He was funny enough, but I liked good ol' Spicey better. Dr. Fauci kicks 'em both to the curb though.

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Postby Bombadil » Sat May 09, 2020 5:36 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
One word.

Scaramucci.

Meh I'm not into mere scums of the Earth.


Well.. I look back fondly on his 10 days of farce as opposed to now when that farce has turned to real tragedy.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat May 09, 2020 5:54 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
San Lumen wrote:maybe they can get it done even faster.

Do you want things to go wrong? Because this is how you get things to go wrong.

I never said that

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Postby Kannap » Sat May 09, 2020 5:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kannap wrote:
"Fauci has cautioned that even if everything goes perfectly, 12 to 18 months to develop a vaccine would set a speed record."


by the autumn of 2021 maybe

maybe they can get it done even faster.


Maybe they can get it done even slower, maybe aliens from a galaxy far, far away deliver the vaccine to us tomorrow.

You can say anything and justify it with a "maybe," I gave you a quote - from your own article - of what the expert you specified praised the vaccine progress the article reported said himself.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sat May 09, 2020 6:18 pm

We can’t live like this, sooner or later, people are going to have to learn to live with the virus. And no, that one edgy teen, just because you’re an introvert with no friends doesn’t mean everyone is, many people have social circles and lives to get back to
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Postby Nazeroth » Sat May 09, 2020 6:20 pm

Aureumterra wrote:We can’t live like this, sooner or later, people are going to have to learn to live with the virus. And no, that one edgy teen, just because you’re an introvert with no friends doesn’t mean everyone is, many people have social circles and lives to get back to


“ the new norm”

Sounds like whatever there doing is supposed to be permanent
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Postby San Lumen » Sat May 09, 2020 6:21 pm

Aureumterra wrote:We can’t live like this, sooner or later, people are going to have to learn to live with the virus. And no, that one edgy teen, just because you’re an introvert with no friends doesn’t mean everyone is, many people have social circles and lives to get back to

Yes this is true and no amount of wishing it so is going to change that

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Postby Blakk Metal » Sat May 09, 2020 6:21 pm

-SARS- wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Naive thinking that response team would have made any serious impact considering Chinas actions and the who to fuck over information.


China's actions do not explain why the US is doing so much worse than somewhere like South Korea. Countries that had some sort of pandemic response plan ready to go have been able to slow the spread a lot more effectively, even if they still have a few cases here or there.

Why is everyone comparing the US to South Korea, and not to a more mediocre country?
Albrenia wrote:Dr. Fauci has usurped the title of My Favourite Person Who Works (or Worked) In the Trump White House from Sean Spicer.

Dude's a legend.

You mean the guy who said young people should go on cruises in early March?

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Postby San Lumen » Sat May 09, 2020 6:22 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
-SARS- wrote:
China's actions do not explain why the US is doing so much worse than somewhere like South Korea. Countries that had some sort of pandemic response plan ready to go have been able to slow the spread a lot more effectively, even if they still have a few cases here or there.

Why is everyone comparing the US to South Korea, and not to a more mediocre country?
Albrenia wrote:Dr. Fauci has usurped the title of My Favourite Person Who Works (or Worked) In the Trump White House from Sean Spicer.

Dude's a legend.

You mean the guy who said young people should go on cruises in early March?

He said that?

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Postby Nakena » Sat May 09, 2020 6:24 pm

Aureumterra wrote:We can’t live like this, sooner or later, people are going to have to learn to live with the virus. And no, that one edgy teen, just because you’re an introvert with no friends doesn’t mean everyone is, many people have social circles and lives to get back to


Iceland should be soon pretty free from it eitherway.

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Postby Bombadil » Sat May 09, 2020 6:46 pm

Imagine an alternative universe where Trump lost in 2016 and was reduced to raging about the China 5G virus hoax and how he'd never have let 1300 Americans die.
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Postby Nakena » Sat May 09, 2020 6:49 pm

Bombadil wrote:Imagine an alternative universe where Trump lost in 2016 and was reduced to raging about the China 5G virus hoax and how he'd never have let 1300 Americans die.


Corona would have hit hard anyways. Maybe not as much but there be other problems including a lot of GOP governors openly defying a democratic presidency and a lot more militias and tea partyiers would be whining big time right now.

Would it change much? There would likely be still 10.000 of deaths...

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat May 09, 2020 6:51 pm

Aureumterra wrote:We can’t live like this, sooner or later, people are going to have to learn to live with the virus. And no, that one edgy teen, just because you’re an introvert with no friends doesn’t mean everyone is, many people have social circles and lives to get back to


Yeah I get annoyed with those people who are like "man I hope this goes on forever cause I hate people." Cool, why don't you fuck off to a desert island then and let the rest of us eventually come out of house arrest. You hate people? Well frankly people despise you.
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