2020 US General Election Thread VI: Covid for VP!

[True Refuge]

I expect the Trump era to end more quickly than the Reagan era.

Actually this is the best outcome, please proceed.

Of course you want a balkanized country to live out your ancap fantasies.

Minarchism, not ancap, which is far more reasonable than ancap.

[Nakena]

Of course you want a balkanized country to live out your ancap fantasies.

Minarchism, not ancap, which is far more reasonable than ancap.

tfw the Mises Institute actually has an article in favor of Somalia being not so bad.

[Kowani]

Of course you want a balkanized country to live out your ancap fantasies.

Minarchism, not ancap, which is far more reasonable than ancap.

No, ND's an ancap.

I think.

[True Refuge]

Minarchism, not ancap, which is far more reasonable than ancap.

No, ND's an ancap.

I think.

Says minarchist in the sig, and I haven't seen anything that suggests otherwise. Librights of all kinds can just as belligerent towards the state as ancaps while differing in thinking that state is in some way necessary.

[Northern Davincia]

Of course you want a balkanized country to live out your ancap fantasies.

Minarchism, not ancap, which is far more reasonable than ancap.

I can settle for either.

Minarchism, not ancap, which is far more reasonable than ancap.

tfw the Mises Institute actually has an article in favor of Somalia being not so bad.

It's true, Somalia is based.

No, ND's an ancap.

I think.

Says minarchist in the sig, and I haven't seen anything that suggests otherwise. Librights of all kinds can just as belligerent towards the state as ancaps while differing in thinking that state is in some way necessary.

Indeed.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

Ahh but see they want that


(In responds to somebody in the previous thread saying why would republicans call everything socialist and make it Easter for sanders.)

[Telconi]

On the other hand, if she goes for it and whether or not Biden's guilt is proven it detroys him November in theory it would reignite attention on Trump's sexual misconduct in the unlikely event the GOP aren't shameless hypocrites and embolden women to renew their call to hold him accountable for the first time in his coddled life.

That ship sailed long ago and was lost at sea. The GOP will never hold Trump accountable for anything, ever.

So long as he toes the line well enough, there's nothing worth holding him accountable.

[Greed and Death]

Hence "unlikely".

Not just "unlikely," impossible. They won't disown him, they can't, not until the party leadership has retired or died. It'll be a generation at least before the gold paint of Trump wears off the Republican Party.

They dumped Nixon pretty quick. 2 election cycles I think you underestimate how short term the American voter sees things.

[Shrillland]

Not just "unlikely," impossible. They won't disown him, they can't, not until the party leadership has retired or died. It'll be a generation at least before the gold paint of Trump wears off the Republican Party.

They dumped Nixon pretty quick. 2 election cycles I think you underestimate how short term the American voter sees things.

Things have changed since then, however. Both parties are more fueled by hate of each other rather than any plans for the future. This is why Trump still has his stranglehold on the party even after all that's happened, for the Democrats are an existential threat that will lead to annihilation of all that the Republicans hold dear. And vice versa of course. Even the average voter is becoming more polarised, and unless things go worse for Trump, which I actually don't want because going worse means unnecessary deaths from COVID-19, the legacy of Trump and his new nationalist GOP will go on.

[Aureumterra]

Considering potential VP picks, it seems Klobuchar is the most likely, not Harris. Harris would score Biden some extra victim points, however, if that’s what he’s going for

Everyone else seems unlikely

[Kruiven]

New ABC/WaPo poll:

Strong enthusiasm for Joe Biden among his supporters—just 24%—is the lowest on record for a Democratic presidential candidate in 20 years of ABC/WaPo polls. 53% of Pres. Trump’s supporters are highly enthusiastic about supporting him.

[Cisairse]

New ABC/WaPo poll:

Strong enthusiasm for Joe Biden among his supporters—just 24%—is the lowest on record for a Democratic presidential candidate in 20 years of ABC/WaPo polls. 53% of Pres. Trump’s supporters are highly enthusiastic about supporting him.

Fun fact: 24% of Democratic primary voters are black.

[Kruiven]

"Very" enthusiastic:
Among Trump supporters 53%, Among Biden supporters 24%

"Somewhat" enthusiastic:
Trump supporters 32%, Biden supporters 49%

"Not so/Not at all" enthusiastic:
Trump supporters 14%, Biden supporters 26%

Combined "Very" and "Somewhat" enthusiastic:
Trump 86%, Biden 74%

[Kruiven]

New ABC/WaPo poll:

Strong enthusiasm for Joe Biden among his supporters—just 24%—is the lowest on record for a Democratic presidential candidate in 20 years of ABC/WaPo polls. 53% of Pres. Trump’s supporters are highly enthusiastic about supporting him.

Fun fact: 24% of Democratic primary voters are black.

lol ABC even notes: "There’s déjà vu in these results: Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton found herself in largely the same position four years ago. She, too, had a slim lead among Democrats for the nomination and ran essentially evenly with Trump among registered voters. And she lagged in enthusiasm, with a low of 32% very enthusiastic in September 2016. Biden is 8 points under that mark now."

[Kruiven]

Also of note:
80% of Sanders backers say they’ll vote for Biden against Trump; as noted, 15% say they’d back Trump. (This is familiar: Twenty percent of Sanders supporters said they’d vote for Trump in spring 2016.) For context, 15% of Sanders supporters is 6% of all leaned Democrats, and Trump won 8% of Democrats in 2016.

[Maineiacs]

Fun fact: 24% of Democratic primary voters are black.

lol ABC even notes: "There’s déjà vu in these results: Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton found herself in largely the same position four years ago. She, too, had a slim lead among Democrats for the nomination and ran essentially evenly with Trump among registered voters. And she lagged in enthusiasm, with a low of 32% very enthusiastic in September 2016. Biden is 8 points under that mark now."

Oh, crap.

[Cisairse]

This is interesting. While Trump's approval ratings have risen dramatically in the recent weeks, the betting odds show Trump with a lower-than-50% chance of winning for the first time since January.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

That ship sailed long ago and was lost at sea. The GOP will never hold Trump accountable for anything, ever.

So long as he toes the line well enough, there's nothing worth holding him accountable.

He doesent toe it well, but Fox News insures that, making a stable cyclical situation.

[Telconi]

So long as he toes the line well enough, there's nothing worth holding him accountable.

He doesent toe it well, but Fox News insures that, making a stable cyclical situation.

Well enough, given the lack of desire to see him removed within his party.

[Aclion]

This is interesting. While Trump's approval ratings have risen dramatically in the recent weeks, the betting odds show Trump with a lower-than-50% chance of winning for the first time since January.

Makes sense. Approval rating are a reflection of past performance, while betting odds are future, March is when the market crashed and an economic is one of the few things that could have threatened Trump's reelection.

[Thermodolia]

This is interesting. While Trump's approval ratings have risen dramatically in the recent weeks, the betting odds show Trump with a lower-than-50% chance of winning for the first time since January.

The thing is that Biden isn’t doing much better

[Thermodolia]

What the other Old One said.

If he does get reelected because an investigation was launched, there's pyrrhic schadenfreude that the GOP has Trump chained to them like an anchor. So that when he inevitably fucks up catastrophically like one of his ventures they won't be able to distance themselves and get off the SSDD Trumptanic before they sink with it. This of course on the condition that said catastrophic fuckup doesn't balkanize the U.S. into a third world ancap/doomsday prepper wet dream.

The US wouldn’t Balkanize but would most likely see more and more people turning towards authoritarianism of both flavors to fix the mess.

So get ready for either the People’s Federal Socialist States of American or the American Fascist State

[Albrenia]

This is interesting. While Trump's approval ratings have risen dramatically in the recent weeks, the betting odds show Trump with a lower-than-50% chance of winning for the first time since January.

The thing is that Biden isn’t doing much better

Let's hope the other Biden does better.

[Cisairse]

This is interesting. While Trump's approval ratings have risen dramatically in the recent weeks, the betting odds show Trump with a lower-than-50% chance of winning for the first time since January.

The thing is that Biden isn’t doing much better

Indeed, he's actually doing much worse.

[Ifreann]

Super cool that America is probably going to be choosing which they think is the lesser of two rapists in November.