Why the us should cut useless courses from college degrees.

[Katganistan]

Why dont we give the Engineers a play room instead? That way they wont get as mad and have time to unwind with the boys discussing engineer things, like which is the tool to use against the suddenly reanimated dead?

A bat studded with nails, clearly.
Doesn't need to be powered, so in the zombie apocalypse, it will be more useful and easier to maintain.

[Zambique]

[Rojava Free State]

and what if they don't even wanna try?

Don't you think it would be better if advanced stuff like that was aimed at kids who could learn it and who would put the effort in?

Being interested in something prior to learning about it should not be the barrier one must surpass to be allowed to learn.

What if you put them in it and they still absolutely suck at the course you're trying to teach?

When I'm in an English class and some guy is too high on weed to even concentrate or keep himself from disrupting the class every five seconds to make some stupid ass remark, it's clear we're not doing something right

[Neu California]

Anecdotes are not evidence of anything

If kids like this exist in large numbers, I would say it means something. Clearly you can't make everyone a mathematician

If they exist in large numbers then there should be data you can cite saying as much

[Ifreann]

Do you even hear yourself? I say that I think that people can benefit from breadth in learning, not just depth, and that people can learn new things, even if some people learn in different ways than others. And your response to this is like "Oh yeah? Well prove that you personally can teach literally any person to achieve my personal ideal of proper citizenship". When did I ever say anything about well-rounded members of society or forcing anyone to take any classes? You act like you are some kind of intellectual superior to people who deal drugs, but you aren't even comprehending the posts you're responding to. It's kinda bullshit. How about this, how about you prove that the shit you say about some people just being unable to understand "higher ideas" is true. Provide evidence to support that claim. Not just anecdotes about your time in school, solid and incontrovertible proof that the human species can be divided by intellectual ability. Until you provide that, I reject your assertions, because what you can assert to be true without evidence, I can reject as false without evidence.


I'm sure that's true. I have no doubt that I am frequently wrong and also that there are people who think that I am always wrong, even when I'm right.

You know as well that I do that "Uh, it's a joke, gawd" is an after the fact excuse to try and shut down criticism. Jokes aren't just some noise you make that doesn't mean anything. So jokes can be criticised. Jokes can be taken seriously to make a point. Jokes have intention behind them. When a person makes a joke, that joke says something about that person.

So if I make a joke about rape, I'm a rapist?

If you make a joke about rape, that says something about you as a person. Not necessarily that you are a rapist. But something.

[Rojava Free State]

So if I make a joke about rape, I'm a rapist?

It would demonstrate your attitude towards the subject, especially that you find it funny.

I want you to imagine someone who says things as dumb as the stuff trump says, ok? Now imagine putting a guy like that in an algebra class. do you really think that's a good idea? Seriously?

Judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree...

Ifreann literally started an argument over a joke, and the worst thing is the argument had nothing to do with the joke I made. He just saw an opportunity to try and portray me as some immature idiot and he took it. from now on we can't make any jokes or it means we're dumb

If the joke is dumb...jokes contain a premise. If it's a joke about someone trying to get 'hung' like a horse it contains the premise that such an outcome is desirable. The punchline often is the twist that either critiques the reality or affirms it. So if in the course of a discussion someone makes a joke about that subject you can extrapolate from that.

I made a joke about the link between engineering school and Islamic extremism and ifreann's response was basically "wow hey everyone look at the so called genius making a joke about terrorism. you're totally not an immature idiot just like the people you criticize!" The criticism wasn't even of the joke itself.

also the fish trying to climb a tree is akin to teaching algebra to someone who has no interest in higher education. They ought to be directed toward vocational training

[Katganistan]

If you think that all there is to gender is your genitals then maybe you'd benefit from a gender studies class.

Genitals? I thought they were talking about pockets!

Definitely should be more pockets in women's clothes. Not just flaps sewn on to simulate pockets, or short pockets you can't even fit a wallet or phone in.

[Saiwania]

Don't you think it would be better if advanced stuff like that was aimed at kids who could learn it and who would put the effort in?

Algebra isn't too advanced. You're usually not allowed to take certain courses anyways, unless you passed the prerequisites for it.

Generally speaking though, anyone can be taught any level of math if they really work at it and take the time to understand each problem and its solving, if they have a capable mind. It only really requires average IQ at best. It is a different matter if someone retains it however. But generally speaking, you'll always be able to learn a higher form of math if you passed the prerequisite recently and its familiar to you. Just more annoying steps to solve more complex problems.

A higher form of math just builds on top of the lower level of math before it.

[Cannot think of a name]

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Well, Tom Schulman's thoughts that he wrote for the character John Keating to have...

[Rojava Free State]

If kids like this exist in large numbers, I would say it means something. Clearly you can't make everyone a mathematician

If they exist in large numbers then there should be data you can cite saying as much

https://www.iq-brain.com/low-iq/

There actually is, considering that according to this, 26% of people have an IQ below 90 and 10% below 80. That's a fairly large number

[Ifreann]

It would demonstrate your attitude towards the subject, especially that you find it funny.
Judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree...

If the joke is dumb...jokes contain a premise. If it's a joke about someone trying to get 'hung' like a horse it contains the premise that such an outcome is desirable. The punchline often is the twist that either critiques the reality or affirms it. So if in the course of a discussion someone makes a joke about that subject you can extrapolate from that.

I made a joke about the link between engineering school and Islamic extremism and ifreann's response was basically "wow hey everyone look at the so called genius making a joke about terrorism. you're totally not an immature idiot just like the people you criticize!" The criticism wasn't even of the joke itself.

also the fish trying to climb a tree is akin to teaching algebra to someone who has no interest in higher education. They ought to be directed toward vocational training

wah, he said bad because joke, wah

[Rojava Free State]

I made a joke about the link between engineering school and Islamic extremism and ifreann's response was basically "wow hey everyone look at the so called genius making a joke about terrorism. you're totally not an immature idiot just like the people you criticize!" The criticism wasn't even of the joke itself.

also the fish trying to climb a tree is akin to teaching algebra to someone who has no interest in higher education. They ought to be directed toward vocational training

wah, he said bad because joke, wah

There you go again. Not even denying it. Kinda funny how I never scrolled through a thread and responded to anything you ever said with a totally unrelated topic. yeah, I do have an issue with what you did there, because I was just messing around with someone else regarding the link between two things, and you decided to start ripping on me without provocation

[Cannot think of a name]

It would demonstrate your attitude towards the subject, especially that you find it funny.
Judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree...

If the joke is dumb...jokes contain a premise. If it's a joke about someone trying to get 'hung' like a horse it contains the premise that such an outcome is desirable. The punchline often is the twist that either critiques the reality or affirms it. So if in the course of a discussion someone makes a joke about that subject you can extrapolate from that.

I made a joke about the link between engineering school and Islamic extremism and ifreann's response was basically "wow hey everyone look at the so called genius making a joke about terrorism. you're totally not an immature idiot just like the people you criticize!" The criticism wasn't even of the joke itself.

I'm not here to referee your fight.

also the fish trying to climb a tree is akin to teaching algebra to someone who has no interest in higher education. They ought to be directed toward vocational training

Algebra is not higher education.

[Treadwellia]

But. . . I teach English and Humanities. . . .

[Rojava Free State]

I made a joke about the link between engineering school and Islamic extremism and ifreann's response was basically "wow hey everyone look at the so called genius making a joke about terrorism. you're totally not an immature idiot just like the people you criticize!" The criticism wasn't even of the joke itself.

I'm not here to referee your fight.

also the fish trying to climb a tree is akin to teaching algebra to someone who has no interest in higher education. They ought to be directed toward vocational training

Algebra is not higher education.

It's too high for certain folks.

[Ifreann]

If they exist in large numbers then there should be data you can cite saying as much

https://www.iq-brain.com/low-iq/

There actually is, considering that according to this, 26% of people have an IQ below 90 and 10% below 80. That's a fairly large number

IQ doesn't show anything except one's ability to take IQ tests.

[Saiwania]

It's too high for certain folks

Its too high for me right now. But if I had the time and luxury of learning it- sure, I could pick up such knowledge. I did pass Intermediate Algebra. I technically qualify for College Algebra if I were to relearn it all. Its just a matter of practicing enough problems on paper correctly and really learning each step of the solving processes.

[Cannot think of a name]

Genitals? I thought they were talking about pockets!

Definitely should be more pockets in women's clothes. Not just flaps sewn on to simulate pockets, or short pockets you can't even fit a wallet or phone in.

My micro aggression towards women is to search my many voluminous pockets for things I've lost in front of them.

For some reason of all the things that women have to put up with in society the pocket thing offends me to no end. Pay gaps, undervaluing contributions, artificially steering them away from fields that aren't considered for women...sure...but you don't give them fucking pockets? Pockets are life, man. I generally don't leave the house with less than eight pockets. Pockets are the fucking best. Where's the march for pockets?

[Cannot think of a name]

I'm not here to referee your fight.

Algebra is not higher education.

It's too high for certain folks.

Also, and brace for this, not required for all higher education majors.

[Ifreann]

wah, he said bad because joke, wah

There you go again. Not even denying it. Kinda funny how I never scrolled through a thread and responded to anything you ever said with a totally unrelated topic. yeah, I do have an issue with what you did there, because I was just messing around with someone else regarding the link between two things, and you decided to start ripping on me without provocation

This isn't your safe space. If you don't like being criticised for saying shit on NSG then stop posting on NSG.

[Rojava Free State]

There you go again. Not even denying it. Kinda funny how I never scrolled through a thread and responded to anything you ever said with a totally unrelated topic. yeah, I do have an issue with what you did there, because I was just messing around with someone else regarding the link between two things, and you decided to start ripping on me without provocation

This isn't your safe space. If you don't like being criticised for saying shit on NSG then stop posting on NSG.

Or idk, maybe don't start an argument with someone that isn't even related to whatever they just said. I mean you could try doing that but knowing you, I know that's never gonna happen.

As I've said countless times before, clearly I cannot say anything humorous around you without you going "SEE SEE THIS GUYS A TOTAL DUMBASS!" I get paid to deal with people like you all the time, I don't need a safe space

[Katganistan]

I kind of agree. I could have had my degree in two years instead of four if I didn't have to take bullshit like 12th century poetry. If I have to take those, then the English Literature majors should have to take some calculus or physics classes.

I took:
Biology
Geology
Physics
Economics
Computers and Probability
Abnormal Psychology 1 and 2
Personality
and Philosophy
Art Appreciation
Music Appreciation

as part of the studies I needed to take as an English major before I even took any of my own coursework.
So maybe you're not as educated as you THINK about what English Majors had to take?
So, maybe you're not as educated about the requirements of

[Cannot think of a name]

It's too high for certain folks

Its too high for me right now. But if I had the time and luxury of learning it- sure, I could pick up such knowledge. I did pass Intermediate Algebra. I technically qualify for College Algebra if I were to relearn it all. Its just a matter of practicing enough problems on paper correctly and really learning each step of the solving processes.

The lady way back in community college that marveled at my grasp of whatever rudimentary math me and everyone else who couldn't remember what epsilon meant in the math placement test took and said her eight year old understood it but she didn't eventually figured it out. She was surprised when I took the statistics math requirement out for people whose majors had nothing to do with math when she went on to higher math. So the lady that was marveling at my ability to divide fractions now can do more complicated math than I can. I still don't really even understand what calculus and trigonometry actually do (I think one is for figuring out the volume of curves? I don't know...) and I have a graduate degree.

[Cekoviu]

If they exist in large numbers then there should be data you can cite saying as much

https://www.iq-brain.com/low-iq/

There actually is, considering that according to this, 26% of people have an IQ below 90 and 10% below 80. That's a fairly large number

Intelligence is not fixed. IQ is not fixed. Can I stress this more?

[Rojava Free State]

https://www.iq-brain.com/low-iq/

There actually is, considering that according to this, 26% of people have an IQ below 90 and 10% below 80. That's a fairly large number

Intelligence is not fixed. IQ is not fixed. Can I stress this more?

by the time you're almost grown, it's very hard to change. You need to have the right environment around children when they're young, because by age 17 it's too late to change them