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by Shrillland » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:54 am
by Glorious Hong Kong » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:25 am
Bombadil wrote:Glorious Hong Kong wrote:(Yes, I know it's Al Jazeera but please bear with me.)
Hong Kong eyes significant overhaul of public broadcaster RTHK
RTHK's director has just been ousted months ahead of schedule. The Deputy Secretary for Home Affairs replaces him. I'm currently pondering whether to uninstall RTHK on my phone and tablet for security reasons. I might have to boycott the entire service if it devolves into just another mouthpiece of the CCP. It would pain me to do so because I grew up with it. Why don't they just ban RTHK, Apple Daily, and Hong Kong Free Press and get this shit over with instead of continuing with this sickening charade?
Hong Kong tightens leash on mobile phone use, registration
I was afraid to bring my laptop to HK just to visit. Now I'm afraid to even bring my phone. I can't take any more of this. Public consultation my flying fuck.
I see Tuthina has CTE'd. I hope she's alright. Maybe I'm just being paranoid but she was an active participant in the 2019 protests.
They've opened restaurants to 10pm as long as you register your name, address etc., ideally, for them, on an app called LeaveHomeSafe but you have the option of writing in details. So most people are writing in details rather than use the app or simply buy a cheap second phone with PAYG SIM for nothing other than going to restaurants.
So of course they want to register PAYG, it's honestly just a game, the government makes some move, everyone finds a way to avoid it and then they come up with some reason for doing something that is clearly a lie.
Next up, people shunning the China vaccine, and we'll see what punishment will be laid down at those who do, I imagine many gifts will be bestowed on those who take the vaccine.. and everyone else's movements are highly restricted.
Frankly the government has welcomed this pandemic, it's allowed for control.
by Bombadil » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:13 pm
by Galloism » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:14 pm
Bombadil wrote:Last year they cancelled the elections, ostensibly due to the pandemic so they said. Clearly it was moved so they could arrest near all of the opposition and then change the rules to the point that there is no opposition allowed anymore.
Since that time, the Beijing and Hong Kong governments have introduced numerous new impediments to opposition candidates winning, or even running in the elections. Last week, they announced rules requiring all politicians and candidates pledge an oath of loyalty to the rule of the Chinese Communist party and swear not to act against the government, or face disqualification.
Officials said the new laws would ensure that only “patriots” could govern Hong Kong, with one spelling out that patriotism meant loyalty to the Communist party.
Though just in case..
Nearly every main voice of dissent in Hong Kong is now in jail or exile, after Hong Kong police charged 47 pro-democracy campaigners and politicians with conspiracy to commit subversion. All face life in prison if convicted.
The group comprises most of the 55 people arrested last month, over primary polls held last year, in a dawn raid that marked the single biggest operation conducted under the controversial and draconian national security law.
Link
by Ethel mermania » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:20 pm
Galloism wrote:Bombadil wrote:Last year they cancelled the elections, ostensibly due to the pandemic so they said. Clearly it was moved so they could arrest near all of the opposition and then change the rules to the point that there is no opposition allowed anymore.
Since that time, the Beijing and Hong Kong governments have introduced numerous new impediments to opposition candidates winning, or even running in the elections. Last week, they announced rules requiring all politicians and candidates pledge an oath of loyalty to the rule of the Chinese Communist party and swear not to act against the government, or face disqualification.
Officials said the new laws would ensure that only “patriots” could govern Hong Kong, with one spelling out that patriotism meant loyalty to the Communist party.
Though just in case..
Nearly every main voice of dissent in Hong Kong is now in jail or exile, after Hong Kong police charged 47 pro-democracy campaigners and politicians with conspiracy to commit subversion. All face life in prison if convicted.
The group comprises most of the 55 people arrested last month, over primary polls held last year, in a dawn raid that marked the single biggest operation conducted under the controversial and draconian national security law.
Link
If you haven’t left for greener pastures friend, you should do so post haste.
The grip is tightening.
by Bombadil » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:21 pm
Galloism wrote:Bombadil wrote:Last year they cancelled the elections, ostensibly due to the pandemic so they said. Clearly it was moved so they could arrest near all of the opposition and then change the rules to the point that there is no opposition allowed anymore.
Since that time, the Beijing and Hong Kong governments have introduced numerous new impediments to opposition candidates winning, or even running in the elections. Last week, they announced rules requiring all politicians and candidates pledge an oath of loyalty to the rule of the Chinese Communist party and swear not to act against the government, or face disqualification.
Officials said the new laws would ensure that only “patriots” could govern Hong Kong, with one spelling out that patriotism meant loyalty to the Communist party.
Though just in case..
Nearly every main voice of dissent in Hong Kong is now in jail or exile, after Hong Kong police charged 47 pro-democracy campaigners and politicians with conspiracy to commit subversion. All face life in prison if convicted.
The group comprises most of the 55 people arrested last month, over primary polls held last year, in a dawn raid that marked the single biggest operation conducted under the controversial and draconian national security law.
Link
If you haven’t left for greener pastures friend, you should do so post haste.
The grip is tightening.
by Galloism » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:24 pm
Bombadil wrote:Galloism wrote:If you haven’t left for greener pastures friend, you should do so post haste.
The grip is tightening.
The question on people's lips is.. 'where?'.
Even putting aside the pandemic it's a question, I'm lucky in that I can move with my job but it's still a huge decision to uproot my life and start over again.
It's odd that the Chinese government cares about BNO passports, you'd think they'd be more than happy for every Cantonese speaker to leave so they can make HK just another China city as soon as possible.
Anyway, it's certainly a question on most people's minds.. to go or not to go.
by Ethel mermania » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:25 pm
Bombadil wrote:Galloism wrote:If you haven’t left for greener pastures friend, you should do so post haste.
The grip is tightening.
The question on people's lips is.. 'where?'.
Even putting aside the pandemic it's a question, I'm lucky in that I can move with my job but it's still a huge decision to uproot my life and start over again.
It's odd that the Chinese government cares about BNO passports, you'd think they'd be more than happy for every Cantonese speaker to leave so they can make HK just another China city as soon as possible.
Anyway, it's certainly a question on most people's minds.. to go or not to go.
by Bombadil » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:56 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Bombadil wrote:
The question on people's lips is.. 'where?'.
Even putting aside the pandemic it's a question, I'm lucky in that I can move with my job but it's still a huge decision to uproot my life and start over again.
It's odd that the Chinese government cares about BNO passports, you'd think they'd be more than happy for every Cantonese speaker to leave so they can make HK just another China city as soon as possible.
Anyway, it's certainly a question on most people's minds.. to go or not to go.
Your in a better position to judge where than we are. Where is your family, friends, social life, best food, Nicest beaches? Where does your passport make it easier to settle?
by The New California Republic » Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:59 am
China announced at its biggest political meeting that it will overhaul Hong Kong's electoral system to ensure "patriots" are in charge, a sign that the government will no longer tolerate dissent in the city.
Local media reported that the 70-member LegCo would see an increase in seats, and these additional members would be chosen by the electoral committee. This would effectively dilute the proportion of LegCo members who are directly elected by the public.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-56264117
by Picairn » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:18 am
The New California Republic wrote:China announced at its biggest political meeting that it will overhaul Hong Kong's electoral system to ensure "patriots" are in charge, a sign that the government will no longer tolerate dissent in the city.
Local media reported that the 70-member LegCo would see an increase in seats, and these additional members would be chosen by the electoral committee. This would effectively dilute the proportion of LegCo members who are directly elected by the public.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-56264117
by Kowani » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:46 pm
by The Reformed American Republic » Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:11 pm
by Glorious Hong Kong » Sat Mar 06, 2021 2:35 am
Picairn wrote:The New California Republic wrote:China announced at its biggest political meeting that it will overhaul Hong Kong's electoral system to ensure "patriots" are in charge, a sign that the government will no longer tolerate dissent in the city.
Local media reported that the 70-member LegCo would see an increase in seats, and these additional members would be chosen by the electoral committee. This would effectively dilute the proportion of LegCo members who are directly elected by the public.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-56264117
I expect full annexation of Hong Kong by the end of this year.
The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Something tells me that every opposition candidate will be vetoed.
by Kowani » Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:40 am
by The New California Republic » Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:50 am
by Tinhampton » Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:52 am
by Bombadil » Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:23 pm
Tinhampton wrote:The Heritage Foundation has decided to indefinitely stop tracking Hong Kong (and Macau) from their annual Index of Economic Freedom - but not Taiwan, interestingly enough. Quoted verbatim from Page 3:"No doubt both Hong Kong and Macau, as Special Administrative Regions, enjoy economic policies that in many respects offer their citizens more economic freedom than is available to the average citizen of China, but developments in recent years have demonstrated unambiguously that those policies are ultimately controlled from Beijing."
Hong Kong finished second in the 2020 Index, first in the 2019 Index, and has never scored less than 88/100.
by Glorious Hong Kong » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:17 am
by Kowani » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:46 am
China’s national legislature has approved a resolution to drastically overhaul Hong Kong’s electoral system to ensure only “patriots” can rule the city, in a sweeping move critics fear will further quash opposition voices.
The National People’s Congress (NPC) passed the resolution on Thursday afternoon by a near-unanimous vote, paving the way for the biggest shake-up to the city’s electoral system since its return to China in 1997.
Delegates voted 2,895 in favour of the proposal, which will authorise its standing committee to finalise the details of the electoral reform process. They applauded for the longest period after the Hong Kong electoral proposal was passed. Under the new electoral system, members of the NPC and the Chinese People‘s Political Consultative Conference – the country’s top political advisory body – will be part of the Election Committee selecting the city’s leader next year.
The Election Committee will be expanded to add these 300 Beijing loyalists, who will become a fifth sector of the expanded 1,500 member body. The other four groupings – business, professional, social and political, will continue to have 300 members each. The Legislative Council will also be expanded to 90 seats from 70, and will be elected through the committee, functional constituencies and through direct elections. A vetting committee will be established to review potential candidates for the committee and Legco, effectively barring opposition candidates not deemed sufficiently “patriotic”.
To implement the decision, the NPC Standing Committee will also amend Annex I and Annex II of Hong Kong‘s basic law, the city’s mini-constitution. At the same time, 117 seats on the Election Committee elected by the city’s district councillors – dominated by the opposition after the 2019 polls – are expected to be scrapped, further diluting the opposition’s influence.
by Glorious Hong Kong » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:50 am
What are the changes, and what do they mean for Hong Kong?
State news outlet Xinhua has reported a list of reforms which, among other things, impact the way Hong Kong's parliamentary Legislative Council is formed, effectively making it easier to bar politicians deemed critical of Beijing.
The number of directly elected LegCo members falls from 35 to 20, while LegCo's size is increased from 70 to 90 seats - thus diluting the influence of democratically elected politicians.
All prospective LegCo candidates will now have to go through two rounds of vetting before they can run, by the powerful pro-Beijing Election Committee as well as by a new screening committee. Carrie Lam said that will include background checks by the police and national security department.
The changes come months after several opposition lawmakers were disqualified, which led to the entire opposition in LegCo resigning.
If a future veto keeps critics out of LegCo, such public embarrassments would be much less likely.
The legal amendments will take effect on Wednesday, and Hong Kong will change its local laws to reflect them in coming weeks. Several local elections are coming up in 2021.
by Violent Mike » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:56 pm
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:Beijing's sweeping electoral "reforms" have now been officially enacted.What are the changes, and what do they mean for Hong Kong?
State news outlet Xinhua has reported a list of reforms which, among other things, impact the way Hong Kong's parliamentary Legislative Council is formed, effectively making it easier to bar politicians deemed critical of Beijing.
The number of directly elected LegCo members falls from 35 to 20, while LegCo's size is increased from 70 to 90 seats - thus diluting the influence of democratically elected politicians.
All prospective LegCo candidates will now have to go through two rounds of vetting before they can run, by the powerful pro-Beijing Election Committee as well as by a new screening committee. Carrie Lam said that will include background checks by the police and national security department.
The changes come months after several opposition lawmakers were disqualified, which led to the entire opposition in LegCo resigning.
If a future veto keeps critics out of LegCo, such public embarrassments would be much less likely.
The legal amendments will take effect on Wednesday, and Hong Kong will change its local laws to reflect them in coming weeks. Several local elections are coming up in 2021.
At this point, there really is no point at all in voting or running for office. Hong Kong's electoral system has morphed completely into an Iranian-style charade. Everyone should just boycott the vote, engage in civil disobedience and TAKE TO THE STREETS once again. The Hong Kong government has lost ALL of its remaining legitimacy and should be outright overthrown in an insurrection.
Why bother with these fake "elections" when they might as well formally abolish Hong Kong's SAR status, its borders, its legal autonomy, its passport, driving on the left, speaking Cantonese, etc.
Why even bother with this charade at all? I always thought Singapore was bad, but Singapore is being run waaaay better than Hong Kong and at least there is a growing chance to actually topple the ruling PAP in a general election especially after LKY's death in 2015 and LHL's pending retirement a few years from now.
by Glorious Hong Kong » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:05 pm
Violent Mike wrote:Glorious Hong Kong wrote:Beijing's sweeping electoral "reforms" have now been officially enacted.
At this point, there really is no point at all in voting or running for office. Hong Kong's electoral system has morphed completely into an Iranian-style charade. Everyone should just boycott the vote, engage in civil disobedience and TAKE TO THE STREETS once again. The Hong Kong government has lost ALL of its remaining legitimacy and should be outright overthrown in an insurrection.
Why bother with these fake "elections" when they might as well formally abolish Hong Kong's SAR status, its borders, its legal autonomy, its passport, driving on the left, speaking Cantonese, etc.
Why even bother with this charade at all? I always thought Singapore was bad, but Singapore is being run waaaay better than Hong Kong and at least there is a growing chance to actually topple the ruling PAP in a general election especially after LKY's death in 2015 and LHL's pending retirement a few years from now.
Are you open to uncivil disobedience?
by Bombadil » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:56 pm
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:Beijing's sweeping electoral "reforms" have now been officially enacted.What are the changes, and what do they mean for Hong Kong?
State news outlet Xinhua has reported a list of reforms which, among other things, impact the way Hong Kong's parliamentary Legislative Council is formed, effectively making it easier to bar politicians deemed critical of Beijing.
The number of directly elected LegCo members falls from 35 to 20, while LegCo's size is increased from 70 to 90 seats - thus diluting the influence of democratically elected politicians.
All prospective LegCo candidates will now have to go through two rounds of vetting before they can run, by the powerful pro-Beijing Election Committee as well as by a new screening committee. Carrie Lam said that will include background checks by the police and national security department.
The changes come months after several opposition lawmakers were disqualified, which led to the entire opposition in LegCo resigning.
If a future veto keeps critics out of LegCo, such public embarrassments would be much less likely.
The legal amendments will take effect on Wednesday, and Hong Kong will change its local laws to reflect them in coming weeks. Several local elections are coming up in 2021.
At this point, there really is no point at all in voting or running for office. Hong Kong's electoral system has morphed completely into an Iranian-style charade. Everyone should just boycott the vote, engage in civil disobedience and TAKE TO THE STREETS once again. The Hong Kong government has lost ALL of its remaining legitimacy and should be outright overthrown in an insurrection.
Why bother with these fake "elections" when they might as well formally abolish Hong Kong's SAR status, its borders, its legal autonomy, its passport, driving on the left, speaking Cantonese, etc.
Why even bother with this charade at all? I always thought Singapore was bad, but Singapore is being run waaaay better than Hong Kong and at least there is a growing chance to actually topple the ruling PAP in a general election especially after LKY's death in 2015 and LHL's pending retirement a few years from now.
by Sungoldy-China » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:27 am
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