Should the CPUSA Be Outlawed and Forcefully Disbanded?

[Greed and Death]

Just as I say with the fascist the secret to beating the commies is ignoring them.
If you take to the streets and get in fist fights with them like Antifa you just employer them.

Nah man, George Soros employs them.

If they are employed taking care of Soros's bladder movements that just makes it easier to ignore them.

[Greed and Death]

The Communist Party of the United States of America is a very old Communist Party that originated in 1919 when it split from the Socialist Party of America following diverging views on the Russian Revolution. While in it's early history it can boast having played a role in opposing racism & segregation and supporting the labor movement in America, these noble actions soon fell out of interest around the 1930s when the party becoming increasingly closer to the Soviet Union culminating in direct funding from Moscow, communication and cooperation with the KGB/NKVD, and outright acts of espionage with the intent to undermine the efforts of the United States to curb the imperialistic influence of the repressive and tyrannical Soviet Union. It's ties to Moscow ended in 1989 with it's opposition to Perestroika and Glasnost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist ... _espionage

It is no secret that I am a fervent Anti-Communist and I trust by now many of you on NSG will know that plainly. That being said, as an American I uphold the tenants of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Association as virtues of deep cultural importance to my country and will gladly defend the right's of my fellow Americans to speak their mind and associate freely without fear of persecution by the government. However, a line must be drawn when it comes to outright subversion against the United States by Fifth Column elements at the behest of foreign powers; something that CPUSA has proven to have been involved in. 1989 was only 30 years ago, so I don't believe this is coming too little too late at all. I believe it was criminally negligent that it was not addressed sooner. In a time when Chinese and Russian interference in American internal politics is becoming increasingly more common, it is only fair we address foreign interference in the past that went largely ignored by the government.

As long as it still exists the CPUSA - in my opinion - is a threat to the integrity of the United States as it has already proven it is willing to blindly follow and serve a foreign power for over 50 years by any means including financial aid to our allies, war time efforts, foreign policy, and even the development of more advanced weapons. It is no secret the CPUSA played a vital role in Soviet infiltration of the Manhattan Project allowing for one of the most despotic and oppressive countries in recent history to attain weapons of mass destruction that then enabled it to hold the world hostage as it spread it's sickening influence across the globe, setting up more genocidal, totalitarian dictatorships in the process that proceeded to bring their respective countries to ruin until their Communist Parties were overthrown. Some of which were not so lucky to escape the binds of Marxism, and continue to toil under increasingly Orwellian regimes such as the illegitimate states of North Korea and the so-called "People's Republic" of China; the latter of which is quite literally the only country on Earth that can accurately be compared to the Third Reich.

It is evident, then that the CPUSA (from my point of view) represents a danger to America's political integrity as, unlike any other Communist or Socialist Party in the United States, it has explicitly supported a former enemy of the USA through covert actions in the past and there is nothing to suggest it will not in the future. We're not talking Moscow's indirect support for Mitch McConnell via the NRA, no, we're talking direct funding from Moscow to the CPUSA and actions taken by the CPUSA to undermine the U.S. and aid Soviet ambitions and intelligence. Thus, I propose that the CPUSA be outlawed and forcefully disbanded on the grounds that it cannot be trusted to participate in the governance of any town, city, county, state, or even the entire country at large.

What say ye, NSG?

The government hasn't shut down the fascist organizations despite their far worse crimes, so why should they outlaw the commies?

I don't know of the last 2 times we had a president shot one time he was a commie, the other time he was trying to impress Jodi Foster.

[Ethel mermania]

The government hasn't shut down the fascist organizations despite their far worse crimes, so why should they outlaw the commies?

I don't know of the last 2 times we had a president shot one time he was a commie, the other time he was trying to impress Jodi Foster.

Tbf, Jodi is an academy award winner.

[Katganistan]

We should outlaw all communist parties tbh

Only if all political parties are also eligible for this treatment.

[Gormwood]

We should outlaw all communist parties tbh

Only if all political parties are also eligible for this treatment.

Yeah, we all remember what happens when communist parties win elections in the U.S.

[Genivaria]

If it can be demonstrated that the CPUSA is actively receiving funding from China to subvert the USA then yes, but otherwise no.

[Gormwood]

If it can be demonstrated that the CPUSA is actively receiving funding from China to subvert the USA then yes, but otherwise no.

If they are they suck at it or they're scamming China.

[Arthenius]

The seeds of left infiltration of the West from which growth is still active today.

[Gormwood]

The seeds of left infiltration of the West from which growth is still active today.

I've seen dead grass with more growth.

[Genivaria]

The seeds of left infiltration of the West from which growth is still active today.

Prove it.

[GlobalControl]

I stand with freedom of speech and expression on principle.
No, it shouldn't.

Let it be roundly crushed by mockery and vigorous debate. Bad ideas die, good ones rise.

[Reznoviya]

Once again the McCarthyists are showing their hate boners over a enemy no longer considered a threat to their freedoms. Guess that army incident didn't disillusion them from media brainwashing them to hate Hammers and Sickles either.

[Greed and Death]

Once again the McCarthyists are showing their hate boners over a enemy no longer considered a threat to their freedoms. Guess that army incident didn't disillusion them from media brainwashing them to hate Hammers and Sickles either.

How will we know unless the army rounds up every last one of them in camps.

[Telconi]

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

But they came for plenty of people before the communists.
Shoot just the other day the cops came for the dude who lives a few doors down across the road.
And I did not speak out.
Because I was not a spousal abuser.

[Rojava Free State]

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

But they came for plenty of people before the communists.
Shoot just the other day the cops came for the dude who lives a few doors down across the road.
And I did not speak out.
Because I was not a spousal abuser.

It's not about them coming for people. It's about them coming for people based on their ideas or race, and not any actual crime

[Black Moon Archmagocracy]

I’ve been in the Party for Socialism and Liberation and then the International Marxist Tendency. Socialists don’t consider the CPUSA a real socialist party, and I don’t know why you would either. They’re just a front for Democrats.

[Telconi]

But they came for plenty of people before the communists.
Shoot just the other day the cops came for the dude who lives a few doors down across the road.
And I did not speak out.
Because I was not a spousal abuser.

It's not about them coming for people. It's about them coming for people based on their ideas or race, and not any actual crime

They came for that dude based upon his idea that it was okay to smack your wife around if they argued too much.

Also, notably, if we outlawed membership in the CPUSA, membership would be an actual crime.

[Rojava Free State]

Once again the McCarthyists are showing their hate boners over a enemy no longer considered a threat to their freedoms. Guess that army incident didn't disillusion them from media brainwashing them to hate Hammers and Sickles either.

The supposed enemy these days is both communists and fascists and to a lesser extent islamists. People wanna give the government more power to fight these supposed threats but forget that the threats are overhyped, the labels are applied to people who don't actually believe any of these ideologies and the government is a greater danger than some racist nazi, loathsome communist or Bin Laden following islamist. If I tried to print a list of people murdered by the US government, my printer would run out of ink. And that's just america. If I tried to print a list of people killed by the CCP, the computer would say "error, unreasonable numerical value" and detonate on the table

[Rojava Free State]

It's not about them coming for people. It's about them coming for people based on their ideas or race, and not any actual crime

They came for that dude based upon his idea that it was okay to smack your wife around if they argued too much.

No, they came for him because he's a woman beating piece of shit, whereas communists in America are ignorant ideologues who think they just need to try it one more time to get it right. As long as the communist party stays peaceful, no legal action is needed. If you think beating women is ok but don't do it, then we can't arrest you for that either

[Confederate American SU]

Imagine living in a time warp in the fifties.

OP is a complete boomer. The CPUSA is literally a FBI hangout. They probably shared the reports of the CIA raising a pedophile cult a fortnight ago at the CPUSA headquarters.

Seriously guys, you think the US government is going to remove the FBI's favorite hangout spot?

[Telconi]

They came for that dude based upon his idea that it was okay to smack your wife around if they argued too much.

No, they came for him because he's a woman beating piece of shit, whereas communists in America are ignorant ideologues who think they just need to try it one more time to get it right. As long as the communist party stays peaceful, no legal action is needed. If you think beating women is ok but don't do it, then we can't arrest you for that either

Well nobody is going to arrest you for thinking it's okay to belong to a communist party if you don't actually do it either.

[Black Moon Archmagocracy]

The supposed enemy these days is both communists and fascists and to a lesser extent islamists.

If you want to fight Communism then you should allow the CPUSA to operate.

[GlobalControl]

The disbanding of the party would be in my eyes, a bit of an overstep for one, even from the standpoint of 'It's a commie party, and commies are bad'.
The party is small, not very powerful overall now, and generally, I don't believe it has much power anyway as I've not heard basically anything relating to it beyond sparse instances such as Rageaholics video on Hollywood and how it was always red.

It is as well I say, unconstitutional.
I stand by the idea that the free market of ideas crushes bad ones and takes on the good ones, via the use of debate and often, mockery.
You cannot use the justification of party or group affiliation to curb someone's rights. As much as I might not like it, (I'd love to see pro-pedophilia groups be disbanded and outlawed) On the simple fact that everyone should and is under the constitution allowed to speak their mind and express their opinions without fear of government reprisal, I stand on Principle and say that without a doubt: They Should Not Be Disbanded and Outlawed.

Rather I think that their ideas are best allowed to be mocked and torn apart by public discourse. I believe it in the end, a better alternative to the use of force and government power, which has already been greatly overextended as is I think. If we allow for them to silence parties, we could see it be used as a political weapon by potential despots and such. As one might say, it's a slippery slope.

[Rojava Free State]

The supposed enemy these days is both communists and fascists and to a lesser extent islamists.

If you want to fight Communism then you should allow the CPUSA to operate.

I am totally for allowing Nazis to goosestep through the streets, communists to drop the communist manifesto on doorsteps and black nationalists to rail against white people. I support all these things at once because the alternative is a slippery slope of restricting speech, widespread violence and a police state in america. Once you give the government the power to arrest people for ideas, they're gonna exploit that and go after whoever they want under the guise of "security"

[Rojava Free State]

No, they came for him because he's a woman beating piece of shit, whereas communists in America are ignorant ideologues who think they just need to try it one more time to get it right. As long as the communist party stays peaceful, no legal action is needed. If you think beating women is ok but don't do it, then we can't arrest you for that either

Well nobody is going to arrest you for thinking it's okay to belong to a communist party if you don't actually do it either.

If the communist party is not committing violent acts, there's no reason to disband them

You understand that once we allow commie hunting, the government under the blessing of its rich corporate sponsors is probably gonna just label anti globalist protesters, native land rights demonstrators and anti wall street politicians as "communists" so they'll be arrested. I'm not down with that