Latin America General : Corona Carnaval

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

No, I would say they're actually quite different. Petro, unlike Chavez, is pretty opposed to the oil sector and would begin weaning the country off of fossil fuels. Though, he has stated that he will re-open ties with the Venezuelan government and Maduro, and he has voiced support for PSUV in the past. Nonetheless, he is a way better candidate than Hernandez who was entirely unfit to rule the country and he will work to help solve income inequality and social justice issues. He was a very popular mayor of Bogota for a while and many of his policies in that city helped alleviate poverty and help regenerate the environment.

As long as Colombia doesn’t become the next Venezuela that sounds nice.

Colombia is in danger of becoming another Venezuela, another Nicaragua and another Cuba.

[Umeria]

Colombia is in danger of becoming another Venezuela, another Nicaragua and another Cuba.

Decades of right wing policies haven't put an end to the vicious drug war in Colombia; don't you think it's a good idea for them to try a different approach?

[Vassenor]

As long as Colombia doesn’t become the next Venezuela that sounds nice.

Colombia is in danger of becoming another Venezuela, another Nicaragua and another Cuba.

How so?

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Colombia is in danger of becoming another Venezuela, another Nicaragua and another Cuba.

Decades of right wing policies haven't put an end to the vicious drug war in Colombia; don't you think it's a good idea for them to try a different approach?

Maduro in Venezuela, Fidel and Cuba are involved in drugs. Not like Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba.

[Umeria]

Decades of right wing policies haven't put an end to the vicious drug war in Colombia; don't you think it's a good idea for them to try a different approach?

Maduro in Venezuela, Fidel and Cuba are involved in drugs. Not like Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba.

That doesn't mean Petro is. And this might seem counterintuitive, but even being "involved in drugs" doesn't fuel the drug war nearly as much as trying to create a police state against it.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Maduro in Venezuela, Fidel and Cuba are involved in drugs. Not like Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba.

That doesn't mean Petro is. And this might seem counterintuitive, but even being "involved in drugs" doesn't fuel the drug war nearly as much as trying to create a police state against it.

The danger of Colombia under Gustavo Petro, is another Police state like Cuba. Gustavo Petro has made many Pro Castro, Pro Cuba comments. Gustavo Petro Twitter Tweet - July 12 2021:

In Cuba, as in Colombia, social dialogue is imposed. Living societies are those that move and achieve transformations from their dialogue and not from their self-destruction.
https://twitter.com/petrogustavo/status ... 16?lang=en

This comment was in reference to the anti Cuban government regime protests in Cuba on July 11, 2021, instead of condemning the Cuban dictatorship regime, he states that in Cuba as in Colombia social discontent is solved trough dialogue, which is a lie.

He refused to condemn the Cuban regime, when asked too.

Juan David Vélez: 'Gustavo Petro is the perfect reflection of Hugo Chávez and Fidel Castro'

The congressman of the Democratic Center party of Colombia Juan David Vélez unmasks Gustavo Petro, the far-left candidate of the Sao Paulo Forum for the presidential elections that are held in the country next May.

After the ex-terrorist's visit to Spain, where he has met with separatists and communists as well as with the Prime Minister, Pedro Sánchez, for Vélez it has become clear what the true face of the Chavista candidate is and who his allies are. "It is the perfect reflection of Chavez and Castro," he says.

What do you think about the tour of the Chavista candidate Gustavo Petro through Spain?

Gustavo Petro can meet with any political leader in the world, but what he showed in his visit to Spain is who his allies really are; how he communicates perfectly with the general secretary of the PCE, who is also a defender of the FARC, with separatists and with the head of the government. That shows the political ideology of Petro, who is on the side of the separatists and the communists who have done so much damage to the people. Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are.

Why is Petro a threat to Colombia and to the Iberosphere?

He is a threat not only because of his past, but because of his allies. He was the most outstanding student that Fidel Castro had. He does not hide his friendship with separatist and communist leaders and has publicly stated that he wants to go against the private property of Colombian citizens. He is a great populist, with a charming speech that deceives the people. Gustavo Petro is the perfect reflection of Hugo Chávez and Fidel Castro.

added by GMS, now he states that he does not want to impound or nationalize businesses, the same broken promises of Fidel, Chavez's and other leftist leaders, until they gain power. Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez, of Cuba has congratulated Gustavo Petro and expects to strengthen economic, trade, political, cultural and tourist, diplomatic relations.

-How do you understand that there is Hispanophobia in Colombia?

It is very painful. Above all, being represented by a person who took up arms, who sought in every way to seize power in Colombia, who was part of a terrorist group that murdered thousands of citizens, who allied himself with drug traffickers, who has been involved in corruption scandals. That is what Petro stands for. His allies are not exactly people who generate ties of brotherhood; he has ties to ideologies that have only brought poverty to the people.

Colombia is in danger of becoming another Venezuela, another Nicaragua and another Cuba. If so, we will see millions of Colombian exiles all over the world, like we see from Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua.

https://gaceta.es/gaceta-tv/juan-david- ... 0114-0800/

[Free Algerstonia]

As long as Colombia doesn’t become the next Venezuela that sounds nice.

Colombia is in danger of becoming another Venezuela, another Nicaragua and another Cuba.

Regardless on whether or not you believe Petro has the aspirations to create another Venezuela, he won't actually be able to because he does not have enough allies. Chavez enjoyed a landslide victory in the Venezuelan legislature and crucial support from the Venezuelan military. Petro has neither.

[Riocht mor Daraen]

The better man won in Colombia, let's see how his term goes.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

The better man won in Colombia, let's see how his term goes.

A leftist, communist socialist, pretending not to be one won in Colombia.

[Arisyan]

Colombia is in danger of becoming another Venezuela, another Nicaragua and another Cuba.

Regardless on whether or not you believe Petro has the aspirations to create another Venezuela, he won't actually be able to because he does not have enough allies. Chavez enjoyed a landslide victory in the Venezuelan legislature and crucial support from the Venezuelan military. Petro has neither.

His coalition does have significant representation in the Legislature however and I do doubt that the military will coup him, though I'll never put it past a Latin American military. Hernandez was even worse however because his party only has 2 seats in the legislature and he had barely any knowledge of how the government system worked.

[Shrillland]

Regardless on whether or not you believe Petro has the aspirations to create another Venezuela, he won't actually be able to because he does not have enough allies. Chavez enjoyed a landslide victory in the Venezuelan legislature and crucial support from the Venezuelan military. Petro has neither.

His coalition does have significant representation in the Legislature however and I do doubt that the military will coup him, though I'll never put it past a Latin American military. Hernandez was even worse however because his party only has 2 seats in the legislature and he had barely any knowledge of how the government system worked.

The US hasn't been all that interested in helping coup leaders lately, even Bolivia was a half-assed job compared to how we used to keep the Condors in.

[Riocht mor Daraen]

The better man won in Colombia, let's see how his term goes.

A leftist, communist socialist, pretending not to be one won in Colombia.

Yes, the better man, that's what I just said.

[The Jamesian Republic]

A leftist, communist socialist, pretending not to be one won in Colombia.

Yes, the better man, that's what I just said.

Well Venezuela and Cuba would disagree…

[Port Caverton]

Yes, the better man, that's what I just said.

Well Venezuela and Cuba would disagree…

To be fair Petro is not retarded, unlike Maduro & co.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Well Venezuela and Cuba would disagree…

To be fair Petro is not retarded, unlike Maduro & co.

Well hopefully Colombia doesn’t go that route. I wish them all the best.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

A leftist, communist socialist, pretending not to be one won in Colombia.

Yes, the better man, that's what I just said.

Dude, you are talking to a native Cuban, Republican and an American citizen, lol.

[The Sauganash Union]

The simple reason to intervene in Colombia's issues is because if we don't, Russia and China will. After Russia's interference in our election and invasion of Ukraine, we need to stand up to them in our own backyard.

[Pridelantic people]

The simple reason to intervene in Colombia's issues is because if we don't, Russia and China will. After Russia's interference in our election and invasion of Ukraine, we need to stand up to them in our own backyard.

please keep your interventionist rhetoric down, and calm down. LA doesn't need another cold war 2.0

[Free Algerstonia]

Regardless on whether or not you believe Petro has the aspirations to create another Venezuela, he won't actually be able to because he does not have enough allies. Chavez enjoyed a landslide victory in the Venezuelan legislature and crucial support from the Venezuelan military. Petro has neither.

His coalition does have significant representation in the Legislature however and I do doubt that the military will coup him, though I'll never put it past a Latin American military. Hernandez was even worse however because his party only has 2 seats in the legislature and he had barely any knowledge of how the government system worked.

Oh, definitely. Hernandez is very corrupt and I don't trust a business executive to be in government at all, and I fully believe Petro to have been the better choice. And while the Historic Pact of Colombia does technically have the most seats, it is the most leftist political party with national representation in the Colombian legislature and it did not surpass 20% of seats held in neither the Senate nor the Chamber of Representatives, so it's more ambitious measures will certainly not pass, which will likely make Petro another Socialism of the 21st Century failure by resorting to populism.

[Free Algerstonia]

The simple reason to intervene in Colombia's issues is because if we don't, Russia and China will. After Russia's interference in our election and invasion of Ukraine, we need to stand up to them in our own backyard.

proud boys vs eln fight 2022 (#PatriotSweep)

[Free Algerstonia]

His coalition does have significant representation in the Legislature however and I do doubt that the military will coup him, though I'll never put it past a Latin American military. Hernandez was even worse however because his party only has 2 seats in the legislature and he had barely any knowledge of how the government system worked.

The US hasn't been all that interested in helping coup leaders lately, even Bolivia was a half-assed job compared to how we used to keep the Condors in.

The motivation is just not there after the end of the Cold War.

[Arlye Austros]

Unrelated: the Copper Corporation of Chile (CODELCO) workers announced a national strike starting on Wednesday after the announcement of closure of the Ventanas Refinery in Valparaíso, Chile. The closure was ordered by the government due to respiratory conditions being reported in the local population, traced to the industrial process, while workers demand their working place is saved and invested into a cleaner and greener place.

Copper is Chile's main income source and CODELCO's Ventanas refinery provides services to medium to small copper operations in the country that don't cost their own refining process.
https://twitter.com/T13/status/1539050242007515139

[Umeria]

He is a threat not only because of his past, but because of his allies. He was the most outstanding student that Fidel Castro had. He does not hide his friendship with separatist and communist leaders and has publicly stated that he wants to go against the private property of Colombian citizens. He is a great populist, with a charming speech that deceives the people. Gustavo Petro is the perfect reflection of Hugo Chávez and Fidel Castro.

added by GMS, now he states that he does not want to impound or nationalize businesses, the same broken promises of Fidel, Chavez's and other leftist leaders, until they gain power. Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez, of Cuba has congratulated Gustavo Petro and expects to strengthen economic, trade, political, cultural and tourist, diplomatic relations.

How can he be a perfect reflection of both Hugo Chávez and Fidel Castro if Chávez and Castro aren't even that similar to each other? This conspiracy theory of yours makes no sense.

Yes, sometimes politicians talk to world leaders instead of instantly denouncing them. That doesn't mean they agree on all or even most issues. American politicians including Trump have had friendly meetings with the murderous dictators of Saudi Arabia, and I doubt you consider Trump to be a perfect reflection of them.

In my opinion, the status quo is a far greater threat than Petro. Colombians appear to agree with that sentiment, as the two candidates in the second round were both populists; Petro on the left and Hernandez on the right. The guy who represented the establishment didn't make the runoff.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

A leftist, communist socialist, pretending not to be one won in Colombia.

Yes, the better man, that's what I just said.

Thank you for agreeing with me, Gustavo Petro of Colombia, is a leftist, communist, socialist.

[Madrinpoor]

Decades of right wing policies haven't put an end to the vicious drug war in Colombia; don't you think it's a good idea for them to try a different approach?

Maduro in Venezuela, Fidel and Cuba are involved in drugs. Not like Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba.

Compai Fidel was not involved in drugs lol