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Postby Shrillland » Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:34 pm

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So Petro against Hernandez in two weeks it looks like. And given how the TPP looks(based on the differing ideologies) it looks like Hernandez will win and continue Colombia's legacy as the heartland of LatAm's Right. Still, only time will tell.

Eh, still too early to call. The polls do give an edge to Hernandez, but I still have a small amount of hope that Petro will end up victor. Colombia could either end up like Ecuador or Chile, and im really hoping for the latter.


I don't know about Chile, that constitution's looking pretty doubtful at the moment, ironically because of the economic issues that it was set to fix. Its prospects have improved since the draft was made public, but only time will tell at this point.

Here, by the way,are the major changes(and what wasn't included):

And here it is, in its entirety
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:18 pm

Party of the rich $, white Upper Class Cubans in Cuba, toasting to Euros at the end of the video. Served by black Cuban servants. While asking for socialist sacrifices from the average Cuban People. Thier rich $ Upper Class lifestyles can be found on their Facebook and Twitter accounts from time to time, and it is very well documented.

While the average Cubans and my family still in Cuba can't give party's this good. Please scroll down to the video link and watch both videos provided.
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This link proves it all: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1642404

According to AméricaTeVé, the family of Juan Almeida Bosque inherited a mansion with "a large swimming pool very close to the Punto Cero complex, where dictator Fidel Castro lived."

The Punto Cero Complex, is a private gated and guarded neighborhood in La Habana, with mansions of the communist, socialist leaders of the revolution.

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Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez.
His wife - Lis Cuesta Peraza.
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Fidel's son - Antonio Castro Soto del Valle.
Raúl 's grandson - Raúl Guillermo Rodríguez Castro.
Berta González Hernández, the wife of general and comandante of the revolution, Juan Almeida Bosque. Her son, Juan Guillermo Almeida Bosque toasting to $ Euros €. This $ is the only thing they care about $.

They don't care about the Cuban People. Dios, Libertad, Patria Y Vida Para Cuba. God, Freedom, Fatherland and Life for Cuba and the Cuban People. Make Cuba Great Again.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:07 pm

Kilobugya wrote:Cuba is operating under a terrible blockade since more than 50 years, and is target to frequent sabotage and terror attacks from its so-powerful imperial neighbour. And despite that, it has the highest life expectancy of all Latin America, the lowest child death rate of all of the Americas including USA and Canada, one of the highest level of education of the world, ... so no, calling the Cuban government "hot garbage", especially when compared to what about everywhere else in Latin America, is totally unfair. Things are not perfect in Cuba, and no one (not even the Cuban government) claim they are. They are facing a very tough situation as a small blockaded island with few natural resources, sure. But they do remarkable well in the conditions in which they are subjected.

As I've explained previously, while the blockade explains some portion of Cuba's economic woes, even adjusting for the estimated losses, Cuba's performance remains underwhelming, paling in comparison next to economic "powerhouses" like Costa Rica or Mexico in several key metrics. The lack of foreign investment, a consequence of the economic model in place in Cuba, has contributed substantially to its inability to maintain infrastructure that would serve it vitally in the event that the embargo was lifted. It's principal agricultural industries, the ones that are economically viable, could not even meet theoretical demand and quotas set previously have been consistently missed, even prompting a serious recession in one instance.

You're also not correct in describing Cuba as a leader in those particular areas. Cuba has a life expectancy of 78.80. Chile has a life expectancy of 80.33. Costa Rica has a life expectancy of 80.47. Puerto Rico has a life expectancy of 80.09. Uruguay has a life expectancy of 78.06, which is just behind that of Cuba. Canada has a lower infant mortality rate and under five mortality rate than Cuba - Canada has 4.9 deaths per 100,000 whereas Cuba has 5.1 per 100,000. And I say this while actually acknowledging that Cuba's healthcare reforms have been among the most beneficial of the Party's policies. It's just not accurate to make the claims as you did.

This does not excuse the crumbling infrastructure, the underperforming and often outright sabotaged agricultural industries, the fact that the libreta lags behind what a capitalist economy with social democracy could probably offer in terms of food access and diversity, the serious repressions of free press, free assembly, and free speech that remain common occurrences, the continually understated mistreatment of Afro-Cubans by law enforcement, etc. etc. If you observed these problems in a capitalist country, you would take them as a death knell for capitalism. And... Cuba could address all of these problems while maintaining its world-class healthcare system...
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:11 pm

Former Bolivian President Añez sentenced to 10 years in prison

Jeanine Añez, the former president of Bolivia, was sentenced to 10 years in prison on Friday following accusations that she illegally took over the presidency after the resignation of her predecessor, Evo Morales.

The trial, the latest chapter in Bolivia’s long-running political turmoil, has raised concerns that the country’s leaders are using the courts to target political adversaries, and that the sentencing represents a larger democratic crisis in the small South American country and across the region.

“Democracy is in question, not just in Bolivia, but all of Latin America,” said Gonzalo Mendieta, a lawyer and political analyst based in Bolivia’s seat of government, La Paz.

Ms. Añez was arrested on March 13, 2021, in her hometown, Trinidad, and taken to La Paz after a warrant was issued accusing her of terrorism and sedition. She was also charged with several other offenses, and was held in prison for nearly 15 months awaiting trial.

She was sentenced on Friday by the Tribunal Primero de Sentencia de La Paz, on the charges of breaching her duties and enacting resolutions against Bolivia’s Constitution.

Luis Guillén, Ms. Añez’s lawyer, told The New York Times that he believed the court’s decision was politically motivated and that Bolivia’s current government, led by a socialist ally of Mr. Morales, broke the law in their treatment of Ms. Añez during her detention.

We will “exhaust resources within the country and then appeal to international organizations,” Mr. Guillén said.

Iván Lima, Bolivia’s justice minister, denied the accusations, saying there was “no evidence” to support them. “We are a government that respects the rules of due process, and that extends democratic rule to all political actors,” Mr. Lima said in an interview.

Once a little-known conservative senator, Ms. Añez rose to the forefront of Bolivia’s political scene in November 2019, when Mr. Morales, Bolivia’s longtime president, a socialist and the country’s first Indigenous leader, lost his grip on power and fled into exile in Argentina amid violent protests set off by his disputed election.

Ms. Añez stepped forward, promising to be only a caretaker interim president and to hold new elections in which she would not run. But almost immediately, she started to reshape Bolivia’s foreign policy. A conservative Christian, she introduced religious symbols into secular state procedures and started a campaign against the leftist supporters of Mr. Morales, who during his 14 years in office had stressed the importance of Indigenous culture.

Her government then charged Mr. Morales with sedition and terrorism, though international human rights groups said evidence to substantiate those charges was lacking and called the case against him politically motivated.

Ms. Añez’s defense team has insisted that in 2019 she had to step in to fill a power vacuum, but Mr. Morales’s supporters called the ouster a “coup.”

In closing testimony on Friday Ms. Añez echoed their arguments, telling judges that she was innocent and that her rise to power was “a consequence of all that happened” two years ago.

“I didn’t move a finger to reach the presidency,” Ms. Añez said.

It did not take long for Ms. Añez, 54, to become deeply unpopular with the Bolivian public, for reasons that ranged from purported human rights violations to her antagonism of Mr. Morales’s Movement to Socialism party, which remains Bolivia’s largest, and perhaps most significantly, her handling of the coronavirus pandemic and the economic disruption that followed.

Ms. Añez abandoned her campaign for Bolivia’s presidency about a month before the Oct. 18, 2020, election, when voters chose the Morales-backed socialist Luis Arce.

She has denied the allegations against her and said she was a victim of “political persecution.”

As prosecutors presented final arguments inside the court on Wednesday, a group of anti-Añez protesters gathered outside, many of whom said they had been oppressed during her government. They called for the ex-leader to receive the maximum sentence, 15 years, screaming “no negotiation with spilled blood.”

The sentencing represents a victory for Mr. Arce’s government and the Movement Toward Socialism party, reinforcing its long-held narrative that Ms. Añez’s rise to power was a coup.

But the decision also has spurred concerns about the independence of Bolivia’s justice system, which Cesar Muñoz, a senior researcher for Human Rights Watch, said has been harnessed by previous governments on both ends of the political spectrum to seek “revenge” on their political opponents.

“We worry about what this means for the impartiality of the justice system,” Mr. Muñoz said. “Those in power have used the justice system for their own political purposes.”

Mr. Morales’s government faced allegations of political persecution of journalists and opposition politicians, as well as the manipulation of the judicial system for political ends.

Human Rights Watch said the government of Ms. Añez “publicly pressured prosecutors and judges to act to further its interests,” which the group said led to criminal investigations of more than 100 people connected to the Morales government over accusations of crimes of sedition or terrorism.

Under Mr. Arce’s government, Ms. Añez now faces the same charges of terrorism for crimes she is said to have committed before her presidency — and for which Mr. Muñoz said there is equally little evidence — as well as accusations of genocide from her time in office.

The State Department, alongside other observers like the European Union, has expressed worries about “growing signs of anti-democratic behavior and the politicization of the legal system in Bolivia.”

The ruling also comes as several other Latin American leaders have shown authoritarian tendencies.

Most notably, in El Salvador more than 36,000 people were arrested after the country’s Parliament gave President Nayib Bukele the power to suspend some civil liberties to crack down on gang violence. The Brookings Institution has also noted “democratic erosion” in Haiti, Honduras, Guatemala, Paraguay, Nicaragua and the Dominican Republic.

“When you examine the region, it looks incredibly tumultuous,” Mr. Mendieta, the lawyer and political analyst in La Paz, said.
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Postby Arisyan » Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:23 pm


Locked behind a paywall, and as such I can't really decide if this is good or not.

On the one hand, she was not a good president and suppressed protests and was pretty corrupt, but on the other hand I don't really think she did something that deserves 10 years in prison. Seems a lil bit fishy to me in all honesty, and Im saying this as a supporter of MAS.
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:32 pm

Sorry about that, there we go.
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Postby Dead Money » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:45 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Party of the rich $, white Upper Class Cubans in Cuba, toasting to Euros at the end of the video. Served by black Cuban servants. While asking for socialist sacrifices from the average Cuban People. Thier rich $ Upper Class lifestyles can be found on their Facebook and Twitter accounts from time to time, and it is very well documented.

While the average Cubans and my family still in Cuba can't give party's this good. Please scroll down to the video link and watch both videos provided.
https://www.cubanet.org/noticias/la-fam ... is-cuesta/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVAhGBD ... NFSU1TTZTg
Miguel Diaz-Canel: We will never surrender and we will never let ourselves be exiled, they say they are the continuity of the eternal revolution, these statements say it all and proves it all.

This link proves it all: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1642404

According to AméricaTeVé, the family of Juan Almeida Bosque inherited a mansion with "a large swimming pool very close to the Punto Cero complex, where dictator Fidel Castro lived."

The Punto Cero Complex, is a private gated and guarded neighborhood in La Habana, with mansions of the communist, socialist leaders of the revolution.

At the Party:
Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez.
His wife - Lis Cuesta Peraza.
His stepson - Manuel Anido Cuesta.
Fidel's son - Antonio Castro Soto del Valle.
Raúl 's grandson - Raúl Guillermo Rodríguez Castro.
Berta González Hernández, the wife of general and comandante of the revolution, Juan Almeida Bosque. Her son, Juan Guillermo Almeida Bosque toasting to $ Euros €. This $ is the only thing they care about $.

They don't care about the Cuban People. Dios, Libertad, Patria Y Vida Para Cuba. God, Freedom, Fatherland and Life for Cuba and the Cuban People. Make Cuba Great Again.

This is similar to the red princelings in China

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Postby Blargoblarg » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:46 am

Shrillland wrote:Former Bolivian President Añez sentenced to 10 years in prison

Jeanine Añez, the former president of Bolivia, was sentenced to 10 years in prison on Friday following accusations that she illegally took over the presidency after the resignation of her predecessor, Evo Morales.

The trial, the latest chapter in Bolivia’s long-running political turmoil, has raised concerns that the country’s leaders are using the courts to target political adversaries, and that the sentencing represents a larger democratic crisis in the small South American country and across the region.

“Democracy is in question, not just in Bolivia, but all of Latin America,” said Gonzalo Mendieta, a lawyer and political analyst based in Bolivia’s seat of government, La Paz.

Ms. Añez was arrested on March 13, 2021, in her hometown, Trinidad, and taken to La Paz after a warrant was issued accusing her of terrorism and sedition. She was also charged with several other offenses, and was held in prison for nearly 15 months awaiting trial.

She was sentenced on Friday by the Tribunal Primero de Sentencia de La Paz, on the charges of breaching her duties and enacting resolutions against Bolivia’s Constitution.

Luis Guillén, Ms. Añez’s lawyer, told The New York Times that he believed the court’s decision was politically motivated and that Bolivia’s current government, led by a socialist ally of Mr. Morales, broke the law in their treatment of Ms. Añez during her detention.

We will “exhaust resources within the country and then appeal to international organizations,” Mr. Guillén said.

Iván Lima, Bolivia’s justice minister, denied the accusations, saying there was “no evidence” to support them. “We are a government that respects the rules of due process, and that extends democratic rule to all political actors,” Mr. Lima said in an interview.

Once a little-known conservative senator, Ms. Añez rose to the forefront of Bolivia’s political scene in November 2019, when Mr. Morales, Bolivia’s longtime president, a socialist and the country’s first Indigenous leader, lost his grip on power and fled into exile in Argentina amid violent protests set off by his disputed election.

Ms. Añez stepped forward, promising to be only a caretaker interim president and to hold new elections in which she would not run. But almost immediately, she started to reshape Bolivia’s foreign policy. A conservative Christian, she introduced religious symbols into secular state procedures and started a campaign against the leftist supporters of Mr. Morales, who during his 14 years in office had stressed the importance of Indigenous culture.

Her government then charged Mr. Morales with sedition and terrorism, though international human rights groups said evidence to substantiate those charges was lacking and called the case against him politically motivated.

Ms. Añez’s defense team has insisted that in 2019 she had to step in to fill a power vacuum, but Mr. Morales’s supporters called the ouster a “coup.”

In closing testimony on Friday Ms. Añez echoed their arguments, telling judges that she was innocent and that her rise to power was “a consequence of all that happened” two years ago.

“I didn’t move a finger to reach the presidency,” Ms. Añez said.

It did not take long for Ms. Añez, 54, to become deeply unpopular with the Bolivian public, for reasons that ranged from purported human rights violations to her antagonism of Mr. Morales’s Movement to Socialism party, which remains Bolivia’s largest, and perhaps most significantly, her handling of the coronavirus pandemic and the economic disruption that followed.

Ms. Añez abandoned her campaign for Bolivia’s presidency about a month before the Oct. 18, 2020, election, when voters chose the Morales-backed socialist Luis Arce.

She has denied the allegations against her and said she was a victim of “political persecution.”

As prosecutors presented final arguments inside the court on Wednesday, a group of anti-Añez protesters gathered outside, many of whom said they had been oppressed during her government. They called for the ex-leader to receive the maximum sentence, 15 years, screaming “no negotiation with spilled blood.”

The sentencing represents a victory for Mr. Arce’s government and the Movement Toward Socialism party, reinforcing its long-held narrative that Ms. Añez’s rise to power was a coup.

But the decision also has spurred concerns about the independence of Bolivia’s justice system, which Cesar Muñoz, a senior researcher for Human Rights Watch, said has been harnessed by previous governments on both ends of the political spectrum to seek “revenge” on their political opponents.

“We worry about what this means for the impartiality of the justice system,” Mr. Muñoz said. “Those in power have used the justice system for their own political purposes.”

Mr. Morales’s government faced allegations of political persecution of journalists and opposition politicians, as well as the manipulation of the judicial system for political ends.

Human Rights Watch said the government of Ms. Añez “publicly pressured prosecutors and judges to act to further its interests,” which the group said led to criminal investigations of more than 100 people connected to the Morales government over accusations of crimes of sedition or terrorism.

Under Mr. Arce’s government, Ms. Añez now faces the same charges of terrorism for crimes she is said to have committed before her presidency — and for which Mr. Muñoz said there is equally little evidence — as well as accusations of genocide from her time in office.

The State Department, alongside other observers like the European Union, has expressed worries about “growing signs of anti-democratic behavior and the politicization of the legal system in Bolivia.”

The ruling also comes as several other Latin American leaders have shown authoritarian tendencies.

Most notably, in El Salvador more than 36,000 people were arrested after the country’s Parliament gave President Nayib Bukele the power to suspend some civil liberties to crack down on gang violence. The Brookings Institution has also noted “democratic erosion” in Haiti, Honduras, Guatemala, Paraguay, Nicaragua and the Dominican Republic.

“When you examine the region, it looks incredibly tumultuous,” Mr. Mendieta, the lawyer and political analyst in La Paz, said.

Good. The coup that ousted Morales and replaced him with her was based on lies and completely ridiculous.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:41 am

'Turn on the current, pinga!': Cuban university students protest at a scholarship in Camagüey - Pinga, cussing in Cuban Spanish. Video Link Provided:
There are power shortages in many parts of Cuba up to 10 hours a day.
https://diariodecuba.com/cuba/1655283197_40227.html

Students who live in appalling conditions demonstrate against blackouts and lack of water to the rhythm of conga, metal banging and a massive choir.

Young Cuban scholarship holders, students from the University of Camagüey, protested on Tuesday night for the appalling conditions in which they live , exacerbated by blackouts and lack of water. and bad food.

To the rhythm of conga, metal beats and a massive chorus of "turn on the current, pinga!" , the students conveyed their discomfort and, apparently, they managed, for the time being, to get the authorities to restore those services to them , according to subsequent official information.

According to a media collaborator at the university center, the demonstration "was produced with the purpose of making claims regarding problems in the infrastructure and unfavorable conditions in the student residence ."

"The reasons are related to repeated damage to the electrical service and the lack of water . At the time of the incident, the students had been without power in the installation for some time . It is known that the Board of Directors maintains a dialogue with the students! The University is calm", Alma Mater concluded .

The journalist José Raúl Gallego pointed out on Facebook that the students at the University of Camagüey, as in most Cuban scholarships, live in deplorable conditions : leaks, poor lighting, lack of transportation, mattresses and bunk beds in very poor condition, a few hours of water a day, lousy food . Thus they have to assume high loads of studies, physical exercises and work and participation in political and extra-teaching activities.

The student catharsis on Tuesday night was preceded by complaints on social networks about the situation .

" So there is no one who lives and studies at a university . This is what I have had for lunch three days in a row," the user identified on Twitter as Rubielito Suárez denounced on Monday .

Suárez shared images of the food tray for three consecutive days : white rice, a very decadent stew, a minutiae of plantain fufú and a piece of pale melon as an addition on one of the days.

To top it off, he denounced that they also lacked the current. " After eating that and filling up with water, we can't sleep either to forget about hunger. I can't take it anymore ," said Suarez.

Another student replied to Suárez: "In mine we have been like this since last week", and showed the tray with the white rice and the pea stew that, according to what he said, they have had for lunch in the last seven days.

In another message, Rubielito Suárez pointed out: " the food has always been bad, but at least one used to go out and you could eat a pizza or a bread, a juice ".

"Currently almost all the kiosks out there sell everything very expensive and almost everything they have is MLC products. And a 30-peso loaf doesn't fill you up and there's no economy for two," he lamented.

The “Moneda Libremente Convertible” (MLC) (freely convertible currency, in English) is a digital currency that Cuban residents can use at “dollar stores” (“tiendas MLC”). MLCs can be expressed in any foreign currency accepted in Cuba, and they can even include the Cuban Peso.

When Cuban Americans and Cubans all over the world send Family Remittances $ to their families and friends in Cuba, it is deposited in a Cuban government bank, and the Cuban government gives Cuban citizens a credit card in the lesser value $ of Cuban Pesos, to purchase many products in Cuban government stores at high prices $, this is The Real Cuba.

Keep in mind the Cuban regime has economic, political, cultural and tourist diplomatic relations with all the nations of the world. Keep in mind the Cuban regime trades with all the nations of the world.

No, Cuba is not better now than before the evil revolution, Make Cuba Great Again.

https://www.periodicocubano.com/estudia ... ctricidad/
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Postby Minoa » Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:42 am

With the Bitcoin dipping again, I am minded to believe that Nayib Bukele of El Salvador will soon purchase around ₿750, believing that the dip is the lowest point of the current cryptocurrency crash. I think that in reality, the current dip may not be the lowest, especially if another exchange halts trading because, you know, a stuck transaction.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:07 am

Second round of Colombian elections today.
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Postby Umeria » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:19 pm

Port Caverton wrote:Petro takes the W

Looks like Hernandez accepted the results as well. This is great news.
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Postby Arisyan » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:33 pm

Port Caverton wrote:Petro takes the W

Finally, Colombia has elected a left-wing president! Truly a historic moment and it appears that the Pink Tide is coming back in full swing.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:41 pm

Port Caverton wrote:Petro takes the W


Francia Márquez will be the second woman Vice President and first Afro-Colombian to hold the position.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:48 pm

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Port Caverton wrote:Petro takes the W

Finally, Colombia has elected a left-wing president! Truly a historic moment and it appears that the Pink Tide is coming back in full swing.


Is he the same as Hugo Chavez in terms of politics?
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Postby Arisyan » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:53 pm

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Arisyan wrote:Finally, Colombia has elected a left-wing president! Truly a historic moment and it appears that the Pink Tide is coming back in full swing.


Is he the same as Hugo Chavez in terms of politics?

No, I would say they're actually quite different. Petro, unlike Chavez, is pretty opposed to the oil sector and would begin weaning the country off of fossil fuels. Though, he has stated that he will re-open ties with the Venezuelan government and Maduro, and he has voiced support for PSUV in the past. Nonetheless, he is a way better candidate than Hernandez who was entirely unfit to rule the country and he will work to help solve income inequality and social justice issues. He was a very popular mayor of Bogota for a while and many of his policies in that city helped alleviate poverty and help regenerate the environment.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:54 pm

Arisyan wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Is he the same as Hugo Chavez in terms of politics?

No, I would say they're actually quite different. Petro, unlike Chavez, is pretty opposed to the oil sector and would begin weaning the country off of fossil fuels. Though, he has stated that he will re-open ties with the Venezuelan government and Maduro, and he has voiced support for PSUV in the past. Nonetheless, he is a way better candidate than Hernandez who was entirely unfit to rule the country and he will work to help solve income inequality and social justice issues. He was a very popular mayor of Bogota for a while and many of his policies in that city helped alleviate poverty and help regenerate the environment.


As long as Colombia doesn’t become the next Venezuela that sounds nice.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:55 pm

Arisyan wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Is he the same as Hugo Chavez in terms of politics?

No, I would say they're actually quite different. Petro, unlike Chavez, is pretty opposed to the oil sector and would begin weaning the country off of fossil fuels. Though, he has stated that he will re-open ties with the Venezuelan government and Maduro, and he has voiced support for PSUV in the past. Nonetheless, he is a way better candidate than Hernandez who was entirely unfit to rule the country and he will work to help solve income inequality and social justice issues. He was a very popular mayor of Bogota for a while and many of his policies in that city helped alleviate poverty and help regenerate the environment.


From what i've heard he will do great things for the country. Mayors are often stepping stones to higher offices. Municipal office is often where some of the best ideas start.

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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:29 pm

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Arisyan wrote:No, I would say they're actually quite different. Petro, unlike Chavez, is pretty opposed to the oil sector and would begin weaning the country off of fossil fuels. Though, he has stated that he will re-open ties with the Venezuelan government and Maduro, and he has voiced support for PSUV in the past. Nonetheless, he is a way better candidate than Hernandez who was entirely unfit to rule the country and he will work to help solve income inequality and social justice issues. He was a very popular mayor of Bogota for a while and many of his policies in that city helped alleviate poverty and help regenerate the environment.


As long as Colombia doesn’t become the next Venezuela that sounds nice.

From what I know Petro is about twice as smart as Maduro, so it should be fine.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:48 pm

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Arisyan wrote:No, I would say they're actually quite different. Petro, unlike Chavez, is pretty opposed to the oil sector and would begin weaning the country off of fossil fuels. Though, he has stated that he will re-open ties with the Venezuelan government and Maduro, and he has voiced support for PSUV in the past. Nonetheless, he is a way better candidate than Hernandez who was entirely unfit to rule the country and he will work to help solve income inequality and social justice issues. He was a very popular mayor of Bogota for a while and many of his policies in that city helped alleviate poverty and help regenerate the environment.


As long as Colombia doesn’t become the next Venezuela that sounds nice.

You forgot to say and the next Cuba.

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Postby Free Algerstonia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:43 pm

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Port Caverton wrote:Petro takes the W

Finally, Colombia has elected a left-wing president! Truly a historic moment and it appears that the Pink Tide is coming back in full swing.

Not a historic moment at all, and you're aware South America is basically a see-saw in terms of governmental ideologies, right? Socialism in the 21st Century has ruined South America in coordination with right-wing regimes, it's all corruption. South American politics are far deeper than right vs left anyways.
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:10 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Arisyan wrote:No, I would say they're actually quite different. Petro, unlike Chavez, is pretty opposed to the oil sector and would begin weaning the country off of fossil fuels. Though, he has stated that he will re-open ties with the Venezuelan government and Maduro, and he has voiced support for PSUV in the past. Nonetheless, he is a way better candidate than Hernandez who was entirely unfit to rule the country and he will work to help solve income inequality and social justice issues. He was a very popular mayor of Bogota for a while and many of his policies in that city helped alleviate poverty and help regenerate the environment.


From what i've heard he will do great things for the country. Mayors are often stepping stones to higher offices. Municipal office is often where some of the best ideas start.

He won't, Socialism of the 21st Century has been disasterous. The Argentine people elected a Peronist and saw people below the poverty line double, the Venezuelan people elected a leftist and saw their country turn into a shitshow, now the Colombian people have elected a progressive who's ideas are more populist than anything and doesn't have an ideologically-similar legislature to back him.

His moves to clean energy are going to further harm the economy when millions of Colombians can already not afford three meals a day-- oil revenues account for 54.6% of Colombia's export revenue, the move is fiscally not responsible at all. His cabinet is mostly from the Santo's presidency, the worst president in Colombian history who's peace deal terms with FARC was not good at all.
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