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Postby Fahran » Mon May 23, 2022 7:35 am

Kilobugya wrote:That's not news to me, but it remains utterly scandalous. The whole way Haiti as been treated by France since Napoleon took over has been totally shameful. No wonder the place is in such a disastrous situation... :(

I doubt Haiti would ever have been a successful country given how France set up its colonial administration and economy. The abolition of slavery, while a moral and social necessity, undermined the essential foundations of the Haitian economy in the cradle. It's wealth was nearly entirely dependent on the maintenance of large sugar plantations and those were, in turn, reliant on an abundant supply of free labor.

Everything else has been a kick in the shin. But it's not super consequential when Haiti wasn't ever set up to be a viable society.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu May 26, 2022 4:18 am

Here is something nice and good for a change, but what happened to this kid and many other kids should never have happened. 17 Years old Cuban teenager, Jonathan Torres released after more than nine months in prison for demonstrating on June 11 2021, in Havana (La Habana) Cuba.

"It was possible," the child's mother, Bárbara Farrat Guillén, said through tears when confirming the news to CiberCuba. "I just picked up my son Jonathan Torres Farrat, overnight they put him on bail. They are sending everyone home," said Farrat Guillen, who has moved heaven and earth to have his son released again.

Just two weeks ago, she claimed that the young man had lost hope of getting out of jail.

"Today for the first time I had to scold my son during the visit, to the point that I burst into tears. My son has completely lost hope of getting out of prison. My son says that they will probably throw the 8 years they are asking for, like many of the boys who are in there and have done the same as him, "said on that occasion the activist, in a direct on Facebook that she shared after visiting the minor in prison.

The mother thanked those who helped her to gather the money with which she was able to visit Jonathan, one of the Cuban minors imprisoned after July 11, in addition to referring that it has been a very difficult few months, but that she did not lose hope that Jonathan can be free to celebrate Father's Day with her seven-month-old son.

He also reiterated his commitment to continue denouncing the excesses of the dictatorship on social networks, even if his son obtained freedom.

Farrat Guillén, who is an HIV patient, also reported that she is sick with her kidneys and the physical effort involved in carrying the jabas that takes her son to prison caused her a fever. The activist then thanked all those who care about Jonathan's case and ratified her call for freedom for political prisoners in Cuba.

The Prosecutor's Office of Havana requested 8 years in prison in March for the young political prisoner, who was detained since August 13 for participating in the demonstrations that occurred in the municipality of Diez de Octubre, one of the places where greater police repression of civilians and even the use of firearms was reported.

In April, Farrat Guillén, one of the most visible faces of the mothers of the 11J prisoners, reported that Jonathan was prevented from receiving medical attention by prison authorities for a sprained right foot.

The Cuban, who declared herself a human rights activist after Jonathan's unjust detention, has received constant harassment from State Security due to the visibility that her campaign for the release of her son has achieved on social networks.

In the middle of the previous month, she also reported that the political police kept her under siege in her home and threatened to prosecute her for contempt because of her activism on behalf of political prisoners.

On Wednesday, the young Cuban Andy García Lorenzo, a protester during the historic 11J protests in Santa Clara, was also released from prison, pending the outcome of the appeal process of his sentence.

"Andy García released momentarily for the house, to wait to continue serving his sentence in an open [regime] ... Happy because we will be with him, but the battle does not end #SonInocentes," said his brother-in-law Jonatan López on his social networks.

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Postby Fahran » Thu May 26, 2022 4:40 pm

In other news, Cuba's government is still hot garbage.

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Postby Port Caverton » Sun May 29, 2022 7:26 am

So when do we get the results of the Colombian election?
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Postby Shrillland » Sun May 29, 2022 9:49 am

Port Caverton wrote:So when do we get the results of the Colombian election?


Well, the polls don't close until 16:00 local time, which is 17:00 EDT.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun May 29, 2022 2:59 pm

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Postby Shrillland » Sun May 29, 2022 3:06 pm



So Petro against Hernandez in two weeks it looks like. And given how the TPP looks(based on the differing ideologies) it looks like Hernandez will win and continue Colombia's legacy as the heartland of LatAm's Right. Still, only time will tell.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun May 29, 2022 3:53 pm

Imagine winning in a department when you don't know where it's located :lol:
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue May 31, 2022 10:06 am

Fahran wrote:In other news, Cuba's government is still hot garbage.

lol, you and I are two of the very few Persons on NS with this kind of thinking. What Cuba needs is a western style, multi political party democracy, with all its faults and merits, under a capitalist economy, with all its faults and merits.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue May 31, 2022 8:26 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Fahran wrote:In other news, Cuba's government is still hot garbage.

lol, you and I are two of the very few Persons on NS with this kind of thinking. What Cuba needs is a western style, multi political party democracy, with all its faults and merits, under a capitalist economy, with all its faults and merits.


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Postby Fahran » Tue May 31, 2022 9:42 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Fahran wrote:In other news, Cuba's government is still hot garbage.

lol, you and I are two of the very few Persons on NS with this kind of thinking. What Cuba needs is a western style, multi political party democracy, with all its faults and merits, under a capitalist economy, with all its faults and merits.

I mean... other people on NS do probably know objectively that Cuba's government is less than a marvel of modern politics or even an example of competent administration. They just don't care to openly discuss it as much because it's either not their principal concern or they perceive it as a dog whistle for broader opposition to platforms and policies they might like to see implemented. It likely helps that Batista was worse as well since they can point to him when someone criticizes how bad the current government is - even on issues they might care about.

In many cases, especially when we're discussing Latin Americans themselves, we avoid taking shots at Cuba or Venezuela because that's an United States thing and like half our countries have been invaded and/or bullied by the United States at some point. It's about the optics of the situation. It's really unusual to see open condemnations of Cuba or Venezuela for that reason - even when their governments do awful things. It's why I mention it when fellow "left-wing" (lol) governments do have such criticisms.

I'm more blatant about calling Cuba's government trash because I happen to think Marxism-Leninism needs to be properly buried given its ideological and systemic failures, that Cuba's government isn't one I would really appreciate living under given Havana is competing with Detroit in building collapses, free press is shaky at best, and the libreta barely addresses many people's needs, and I very openly do not want the US to invade Cuba or any other Latin American country and can hold that position while also thinking Cuba's government is hot garbage.

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Postby Kilobugya » Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:36 am

Fahran wrote:I'm more blatant about calling Cuba's government trash because I happen to think Marxism-Leninism needs to be properly buried given its ideological and systemic failures, that Cuba's government isn't one I would really appreciate living under given Havana is competing with Detroit in building collapses, free press is shaky at best, and the libreta barely addresses many people's needs, and I very openly do not want the US to invade Cuba or any other Latin American country and can hold that position while also thinking Cuba's government is hot garbage.


Cuba is operating under a terrible blockade since more than 50 years, and is target to frequent sabotage and terror attacks from its so-powerful imperial neighbour. And despite that, it has the highest life expectancy of all Latin America, the lowest child death rate of all of the Americas including USA and Canada, one of the highest level of education of the world, ... so no, calling the Cuban government "hot garbage", especially when compared to what about everywhere else in Latin America, is totally unfair. Things are not perfect in Cuba, and no one (not even the Cuban government) claim they are. They are facing a very tough situation as a small blockaded island with few natural resources, sure. But they do remarkable well in the conditions in which they are subjected.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:51 am

Kilobugya wrote:
Fahran wrote:I'm more blatant about calling Cuba's government trash because I happen to think Marxism-Leninism needs to be properly buried given its ideological and systemic failures, that Cuba's government isn't one I would really appreciate living under given Havana is competing with Detroit in building collapses, free press is shaky at best, and the libreta barely addresses many people's needs, and I very openly do not want the US to invade Cuba or any other Latin American country and can hold that position while also thinking Cuba's government is hot garbage.


Cuba is operating under a terrible blockade since more than 50 years, and is target to frequent sabotage and terror attacks from its so-powerful imperial neighbour. And despite that, it has the highest life expectancy of all Latin America, the lowest child death rate of all of the Americas including USA and Canada, one of the highest level of education of the world, ... so no, calling the Cuban government "hot garbage", especially when compared to what about everywhere else in Latin America, is totally unfair. Things are not perfect in Cuba, and no one (not even the Cuban government) claim they are. They are facing a very tough situation as a small blockaded island with few natural resources, sure. But they do remarkable well in the conditions in which they are subjected.

lol, Things are not perfect in Cuba, and no one (not even the Cuban government) claim they are: According to the Cuban government Cuba is perfect, because the revolution is perfect, they are a democratic nation and they are the continuity of the eternal revolution, this statement says it all and proves it all, as to the true nature of the Cuban government regime. The Cuban regime has economic, political, cultural and tourist diplomatic relations with all the nations of the world. Cuban Americans and Cubans all over the world send family remittances $ and care packages, including medicines and toilet paper to their families and friends in Cuba. All this despite the so called evil US economic embargo blockade. Cuba was one of the most advanced nations of the world before the so called eternal democratic, one political party state revolution. The Cuban Peso $ was worth the same as the $ USD, at times even more, Cuba before the revolution did not have millions of Cuban exiles all over the world.
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Postby Riocht mor Daraen » Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:42 pm

Rodolfo Hernández's path to victory in the runoff in Colombia should be a walk in the park, but polls show a relatively competitive race, if you can believe it.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:47 pm

Riocht mor Daraen wrote:Rodolfo Hernández's path to victory in the runoff in Colombia should be a walk in the park, but polls show a relatively competitive race, if you can believe it.

I mean he's pretty wack and he's not exactly mainstream
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proof of communist sympathy in the biden administration
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Postby Riocht mor Daraen » Sun Jun 05, 2022 9:01 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Riocht mor Daraen wrote:Rodolfo Hernández's path to victory in the runoff in Colombia should be a walk in the park, but polls show a relatively competitive race, if you can believe it.

I mean he's pretty wack and he's not exactly mainstream

Petro got 40% of the vote, Hernández 28%, Gutiérrez 24% and the other candidates combined like 6%. No losing candidate endorsed Petro and no losing candidate's electorate other than maybe Fajardo's can be realistically expected to provide Petro with any substantial share of votes. That's why the general consensus is that this is Hernández's election to lose and why Petro still being in the fight, although in the weaker position, kinda surprises me.
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Postby Shrillland » Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:30 pm

I completely forgot about this, but six Mexican states had their gubernatorials yesterday. Although you'll only see two candidates here in most races, these races did have other candidates from most of the major parties.

Aguascalientes: Federal PAN Deputy and former Aguascalientes Municipal President Tere Jimenez won on the Va Por Mexico ticket(all three classic parties, PAN, PRI, and PRD) in this, the bluest state in the country with a full majority against State Development Coordinator(the official that oversees federal government programmes in the state)Nora Ruvacalba of MORENA.

Durango: The PRI holds onto this one with former Durango Municipal President, State Health Secretary and Federal Deputy Esteban Villegas Villareal running for Va Por Mexico, also with an absolute majority over MORENA's Marina Vitela Rodriguez, former Municipal Presdent of Gomez Palacio, federal and state deputy.

Hidalgo: Here, MORENA takes the Governorship from the PRI. Senator Julio Mencheca Salazar won with over 61% of the vote over PRI's former Secretary General, First Lady of Coahuila, National Director for CONAFE(part of the Public Education Secretariat responsible for helping poor and at-risk children in poorer schools) and Former Deputy Carolina Viggiano Austria.

Oaxaca: Another MORENA gain from the PRI, who decided to run separately from the Va Por Mexico Coalition here. Former Senator Salomon Jara wins here over Federal PRI Deputy Alejandro Aviles Alvarez with over 60% of the vote.

Quintana Roo: Another MORENA grab, this time from PRD. Former Benito Juarez Municipal President(Cancun is part of this amalgamation) Mara Lezama managed to beat PRD's former Federal Deputy, State Tourism Secretary, and Municipal President of Puerto Morelos Laura Lynn Fernandez.

Tamaulipas: A fairly close vote here with no one getting an absolute majority. MORENA takes it from PAN though with former Deputy Americo Villareal winning just under 50% of the vote against PAN's former State Government Secretary General and former Municipal President of Xicotencatl Cesar Verastegui getting 44%, translating to a majority of over 82,000 votes for Villareal.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:37 pm

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Fahran wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:lol, you and I are two of the very few Persons on NS with this kind of thinking. What Cuba needs is a western style, multi political party democracy, with all its faults and merits, under a capitalist economy, with all its faults and merits.

I mean... other people on NS do probably know objectively that Cuba's government is less than a marvel of modern politics or even an example of competent administration. They just don't care to openly discuss it as much because it's either not their principal concern or they perceive it as a dog whistle for broader opposition to platforms and policies they might like to see implemented. It likely helps that Batista was worse as well since they can point to him when someone criticizes how bad the current government is - even on issues they might care about.

In many cases, especially when we're discussing Latin Americans themselves, we avoid taking shots at Cuba or Venezuela because that's an United States thing and like half our countries have been invaded and/or bullied by the United States at some point. It's about the optics of the situation. It's really unusual to see open condemnations of Cuba or Venezuela for that reason - even when their governments do awful things. It's why I mention it when fellow "left-wing" (lol) governments do have such criticisms.

I'm more blatant about calling Cuba's government trash because I happen to think Marxism-Leninism needs to be properly buried given its ideological and systemic failures, that Cuba's government isn't one I would really appreciate living under given Havana is competing with Detroit in building collapses, free press is shaky at best, and the libreta barely addresses many people's needs, and I very openly do not want the US to invade Cuba or any other Latin American country and can hold that position while also thinking Cuba's government is hot garbage.

The notion that Cuba is better now than before the revolution, is leftist Cuban government propaganda, leftist liberal, democrat, progressive, politicians, VIPs and true leftists as Therm calls them, propaganda. Cuba was one of the most advanced nations in the world before the revolution. Just ask me and ask us Cubans who send family remittances $ and care packages of medicines and toilet paper, toilet paper, to our families and friends in Cuba. Make Cuba Great Again.

Cuba did not have millions of Cuban exiles all over the world before the revolution. Under Fidel and Raúl there were reeducation camps and work camps for LGBT Persons, political prisoners, Catholics, Protestants and other religious persons. Since Biden at least 110,000 Cubans have left Cuba legally and illegally as Cuban Balsero Rafters, one percent 01 % of the Cuban population.

As I keep pointing out the Cuban regime has economic, political, cultural, trade and tourist diplomatic relations with all the nations of the world, receives loans and credits and aid from the United Nations, Euro nations and the Paris Club, despite the so called evil US economic embargo blockade, and Cubans and Cuban Americans from all over the world send family remittances $ and care packages to their families and friends in Cuba, including medicines and toilet paper, toilet paper.

What Cuba needs is multi political party elections and a capitalist economy. Make Cuba Great Again. Most leftists of all kinds on NS and off NS don't care about multi political party democracy in Cuba. But they care about democracy in the USA from the evil Republicans, evil Trump and democracy in Colombia, Chile, Peru, Honduras, Mexico and other nations.

I see many leftists, liberal, democrat, progressives and real leftists as Therm calls them, on NS and off NS so concerned about democracy in Colombia, Peru, Honduras, Mexico and other nations, so concerned about democracy in the USA from the evil Republicans and evil Trump, but they don't care about democracy in Cuba, we Cuban Americans know it and say it to each other every time we talk about Cuba with each other.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:37 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Fahran wrote:I mean... other people on NS do probably know objectively that Cuba's government is less than a marvel of modern politics or even an example of competent administration. They just don't care to openly discuss it as much because it's either not their principal concern or they perceive it as a dog whistle for broader opposition to platforms and policies they might like to see implemented. It likely helps that Batista was worse as well since they can point to him when someone criticizes how bad the current government is - even on issues they might care about.

In many cases, especially when we're discussing Latin Americans themselves, we avoid taking shots at Cuba or Venezuela because that's an United States thing and like half our countries have been invaded and/or bullied by the United States at some point. It's about the optics of the situation. It's really unusual to see open condemnations of Cuba or Venezuela for that reason - even when their governments do awful things. It's why I mention it when fellow "left-wing" (lol) governments do have such criticisms.

I'm more blatant about calling Cuba's government trash because I happen to think Marxism-Leninism needs to be properly buried given its ideological and systemic failures, that Cuba's government isn't one I would really appreciate living under given Havana is competing with Detroit in building collapses, free press is shaky at best, and the libreta barely addresses many people's needs, and I very openly do not want the US to invade Cuba or any other Latin American country and can hold that position while also thinking Cuba's government is hot garbage.

The notion that Cuba is better now than before the revolution, is leftist Cuban government propaganda, leftist liberal, democrat, progressive, politicians, VIPs and true leftists as Therm calls them, propaganda. Cuba was one of the most advanced nations in the world before the revolution. Just ask me and ask us Cubans who send family remittances $ and care packages of medicines and toilet paper, toilet paper, to our families and friends in Cuba. Make Cuba Great Again.

Cuba did not have millions of Cuban exiles all over the world before the revolution. Under Fidel and Raúl there were reeducation camps and work camps for LGBT Persons, political prisoners, Catholics, Protestants and other religious persons. Since Biden at least 110,000 Cubans have left Cuba legally and illegally as Cuban Balsero Rafters, one percent 01 % of the Cuban population.

As I keep pointing out the Cuban regime has economic, political, cultural, trade and tourist diplomatic relations with all the nations of the world, receives loans and credits and aid from the United Nations, Euro nations and the Paris Club, despite the so called evil US economic embargo blockade, and Cubans and Cuban Americans from all over the world send family remittances $ and care packages to their families and friends in Cuba, including medicines and toilet paper, toilet paper.

What Cuba needs is multi political party elections and a capitalist economy. Make Cuba Great Again. Most leftists of all kinds on NS don't care about multi political party democracy in Cuba. But they care about democracy in the USA from the evil Republicans, evil Trump and democracy in Colombia, Peru, Honduras, Mexico and other nations.

I see many leftists, liberal, democrat, progressives and real leftists as Therm calls them, on NS and off NS so concerned about democracy in Colombia, Peru, Honduras, Mexico and other nations, so concerned about democracy in the USA from the evil Republicans and evil Trump, but they don't care about democracy in Cuba, we Cuban Americans know it and say it to each other every time we talk about Cuba with each other.


Batista was pretty corrupt though.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:11 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:The notion that Cuba is better now than before the revolution, is leftist Cuban government propaganda, leftist liberal, democrat, progressive, politicians, VIPs and true leftists as Therm calls them, propaganda. Cuba was one of the most advanced nations in the world before the revolution. Just ask me and ask us Cubans who send family remittances $ and care packages of medicines and toilet paper, toilet paper, to our families and friends in Cuba. Make Cuba Great Again.

Cuba did not have millions of Cuban exiles all over the world before the revolution. Under Fidel and Raúl there were reeducation camps and work camps for LGBT Persons, political prisoners, Catholics, Protestants and other religious persons. Since Biden at least 110,000 Cubans have left Cuba legally and illegally as Cuban Balsero Rafters, one percent 01 % of the Cuban population.

As I keep pointing out the Cuban regime has economic, political, cultural, trade and tourist diplomatic relations with all the nations of the world, receives loans and credits and aid from the United Nations, Euro nations and the Paris Club, despite the so called evil US economic embargo blockade, and Cubans and Cuban Americans from all over the world send family remittances $ and care packages to their families and friends in Cuba, including medicines and toilet paper, toilet paper.

What Cuba needs is multi political party elections and a capitalist economy. Make Cuba Great Again. Most leftists of all kinds on NS don't care about multi political party democracy in Cuba. But they care about democracy in the USA from the evil Republicans, evil Trump and democracy in Colombia, Chile, Peru, Honduras, Mexico and other nations.

I see many leftists, liberal, democrat, progressives and real leftists as Therm calls them, on NS and off NS so concerned about democracy in Colombia, Peru, Honduras, Mexico and other nations, so concerned about democracy in the USA from the evil Republicans and evil Trump, but they don't care about democracy in Cuba, we Cuban Americans know it and say it to each other every time we talk about Cuba with each other.


Batista was pretty corrupt though.

What do you guys call Fidel, Raúl, Diaz-Canel, Manuel Marrero Cruz and the other leaders of Cuba, who call themselves the continuity of the eternal revolution? Please view these links: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1642404 - ?

Batista was interested in power and money $, Fidel was interested in power, money $ and control over the Cuban People. Like trough the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution, the CDRs. I once met a Cuban lady in Miami from the rich upper class of Cuba in La Habana, she admitted they discriminated against Batista, because they did not want a white, black, Chinese, Cuban Mulato to set foot in the upper class country club. They locked all the doors and turned off the lights when Batista tried to visit the club. Some dictator Batista was, do you guys think Fidel would have allowed them to not let him set foot inside the club for political reasons against him?

She must have know Voltaire, the rich upper class Padrino of my family in Cuba, a member of high society, but I forgot to ask her. Voltaire had 5 family style restaurants in La Habana and many business investments $ in Cuba. I remember once a group of us family members going to the Tropicana night club with Voltaire, during the revolution, where he still had friends and influence. There was a new black Cuban security guard, when he saw Voltaire he hugged him and thanked him in front of us, the family, for loaning him the money $ to open up a cafeteria with employees, which was nationalized by Fidel and the revolution. He passed us through the crowd first. Voltaire once told me in Miami, we were ready, willing and able to help Fidel, but he betrayed us and nationalized all our businesses. When Voltaire told me this, I thought he might be one of the many rich upper class Cubans who financed $ Fidel, thinking he was not a communist. But out of personal respect for Voltaire as family, I kept my big mouth shut, and did not bring up the very delicate subject.

My family in Cuba was middle class, we had cars, houses, farms and the hotel bar and restaurant, but Voltaire was the rich upper class Padrino of my family in Cuba. GMS.

While Fidel and the communist socialist elite live like rich capitalists $ as this like proves, https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1642404 -

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Postby Arisyan » Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:13 pm

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So Petro against Hernandez in two weeks it looks like. And given how the TPP looks(based on the differing ideologies) it looks like Hernandez will win and continue Colombia's legacy as the heartland of LatAm's Right. Still, only time will tell.

Eh, still too early to call. The polls do give an edge to Hernandez, but I still have a small amount of hope that Petro will end up victor. Colombia could either end up like Ecuador or Chile, and im really hoping for the latter.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:18 pm

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Batista was pretty corrupt though.

What do you guys call Fidel, Raúl, Diaz-Canel, Manuel Marrero Cruz and the other leaders of Cuba, who call themselves the continuity of the eternal revolution? Please view these links: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1642404 - ?

Batista was interested in power and money $, Fidel was interested in power, money $ and control over the Cuban People. Like trough the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution, the CDRs. I once met a Cuban lady in Miami from the rich upper class of Cuba in La Habana, she admitted they discriminated against Batista, because they did not want a white, black, Chinese, Cuban Mulato to set foot in the upper class country club. They locked all the doors and turned off the lights when Batista tried to visit the club. Some dictator Batista was, do you guys think Fidel would have allowed them to not let him set foot inside the club for political reasons against him?

She must have know Voltaire, the rich upper class Padrino of my family in Cuba, but I forgot to ask her. Voltaire had 5 family style restaurants in La Habana and many business investments $ in Cuba. I remember once a group of us family members going to the Tropicana night club with Voltaire, during the revolution, where he still had friends and influence. There was a new black Cuban security guard, when he saw Voltaire he hugged him and thanked him in front of us, the family, for loaning him the money $ to open up a cafeteria with employees, which was nationalized by Fidel and the revolution. He passed us through the crowd first. Voltaire once told me in Miami, we were ready, willing and able to help Fidel, but he betrayed us and nationalized all our businesses. When Voltaire told me this, I thought he might be one of the many rich upper class Cubans who financed $ Fidel, thinking he was not a communist. But out of personal respect for Voltaire as family, I kept my big mouth shut, and did not bring up the very delicate subject.

My family was middle class in Cuba, we had cars, houses, farms and the hotel bar and restaurant, but Voltaire was the rich upper class Padrino of my family in Cuba. GMS.

While Fidel and the communist socialist elite live like rich capitalists $ as this like proves, https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1642404 -

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To me Castro and friends were literally Batista but under the thumb of another superpower had beards and were proponents of a different ideology. Otherwise we have the same people. Well they at least paid lip service to the idea of worker’s rights.

As somebody with some socialist sympathies (In the sense of the workers owning the means of production) I generally oppose total nationalization and banning of all private industry but I’m in favor of labor laws that would transform private industry into private worker owned cooperatives or large federalist style workers unions with workplace and economic democracy.
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