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Fahran wrote:Porfirio Diaz began as a liberal figure before consolidating power, bringing order to society, and improving the economy and infrastructure. He effectively balanced disparate interests, though this excluded the urban middle-class and the campesinos, proving disastrous for the campesinos in particular. He took a country that was a backwater and put it on an equal economic footing to the great states of Europe. He finally managed to succeed in the long-elusive goal of establishing a strong central government. His main problem is that he grew old and never decided on a formal method of succession.

Mind you, I'm not really a fan of his policies, in particular those relating to poorer rural interests, but he absolutely maintained an effective government that presided over a rapidly modernizing state. And likely set the stage for a lot of Mexico's modern economic successes.

Of course, I am not denying anything he did was for a great future for Mexico, I mean he set the path for a better Mexico. It's just that the background of his successes is not clean and to be fair it is the same with other presidents, my opinion of Porfirio Diaz is black and white unlike most of the history that school has taught me since I really understand that a future for a better Mexico was not possible if not thanks to his achievements but there is no doubt that it came at the costs of many people below the rich classes and a big disparity of incomes, not forgetting the amount of corruption he caused thanks to that. But whatever he is perfectly balanced as a president, sadly the institution that replaced him wasn't the best one...

There's actually a meme somewhere about how Maximiliano kept assuming the exact same policy positions as Benito Juarez. Maximiliano was by no means a conservative. He was a liberal in the Austrian mold who was principally hindered by his position as a foreigner installed by Napoleon III and Mexican republican sentiment. He wasn't particularly autocratic by the standards of Mexican politics, where pretty much every president who hung around long enough tried to become dictator, and he seems to have been more mild-mannered, tolerant, and gentle than most of those who preceded or succeeded him. Man died saying "May my blood flow for the good of this land. Viva Mexico!"

The problem with his government is that he was a liberal, who could thus not count on support from conservatives, and a monarch, who could thus not count on support from liberals.

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:13 pm

All right, I've got a lot of electoral-based stuff to discuss across the world this week, so let's start with next month's big attraction, The Colombian Presidential Election. The Congressional vote was last month, and it saw a definite change in Colombian politics. With the war more or less over, voters are starting to turn leftward for the first time in modern Colombian history, with the Left Wing Historic Pact(major parties include the Alternative Democratic Pole, the Communists, and Commons, which are the political successors of FARC) becoming the biggest group in the House and second-biggest in the Senate.

The presidential polls are showing a similar trend with PH's Gustavo Petro set to take the lead in the first round and possibly win the runoff...but we're getting ahead of ourselves. The point is that this is one of the most important elections Colombia's seen in decades, and with a more friendly congressional leadership, it could transform the country in ways its never seen. There has not been any non-Conservative president in 25 years, nor has there ever been a full-fledged Leftist in Casa de Nariño before.

Here's how it'll go down on Sunday, May 29. It's a simple two-round vote with the top two going to a runoff on June 19 if no one gets an absolute majority. As a consolation prize, the top runner-up in the Presidential race automatically becomes a Senator and their running mate gets to go to the Chamber. No one is expected to get a majority, so here are the top four candidates likely to either go to round two or shake it up.

Gustavo Petro and Francia Marquez - Historic Pact(PH): Left Wing

Gustavo Petro's been in left wing politics since his youth, and Colombia being Colombia, that means he was involved in paramilitary activities. He joined M-19(the April 19 Movement) in 1977 at age 17, during his time in college, where he also set up a student newspaper and a cultural centre. At this time, Colombia was still in a state of siege from the chaotic 1970 Presidential Election, and M-19 was one of the larger left-wing groups(second in size only to FARC). He isn't known to have committed violent acts himself and preferred the political sphere, becoming a city Councillor in Zipaquira, Cundinamarca, in 1983. By now, he was one of M-19's leaders, and with the Corinto Accords being negotiated at the time(an ultimately failed truce between the Government, M-19, and the Leftist PLA), he came out to the public with his membership in the organisation. Once the truce was broken, Petro was arrested by the Army in October 1985 for illegal firearms possession and conspiracy. He would be sentenced to 18 months imprisonment and served 16. After his release, he became a major player in the peace process in the M-19 side negotiating with President Virgillio Barco that would ultimately lead to the 1990 Bogota Agreement where most leftist groups save for FARC disarmed and renounced violence as a precursor to the 1991 Constitution. During that time, Petro had been implicated for M-19's seizure of the Palace of Justice in November 1985...while he was still in prison. This would ultimately lead to his charges being dropped.

He immediately was elected to the Chamber for Cundinamarca in 1991 under the M-19 Democratic Alliance. He lost re-election in '94, and facing death threats from opponents, he was given a job as First Secretary at the Colombian Embassy in Brussels for two years. By 1998, he had returned and ran for the Chamber again, this time winning a seat in Bogota for the Via Alterna Movement, which eventually merged with others into the PDA(Alternative Democratic Pole). He served two four-year terms and was one of the most popular politicians in the country by this time. In 2006, he moved on to the Senate, coming in with the third-largest share of individual votes. That same year, he helped to expose the infamous Parapolitics Scandal, which saw many conservative and ultra-right Politicians, including then-President Alvaro Uribe's cousin, of signing a pact with the Right Wing paramilitary group AUC to "reclaim" the country.

By 2010, Petro had become disillusioned with the PDA's resistance to a new round of peace talks with the new President, Juan Manuel Santos, and he was also opposed to corruption caused by PDA's Samuel Moreno, who served in Bogota City Hall and launched "The Hiring Carousel," which involved numerous irregularities in city contracts, much to the irritation of the Mayor, Clara Lopez. Even so, he ran as PDA's presidential candidate that year and came in fourth place with 9% of the vote. The following year, however, he and several others left the party and former the Progressive Movement, which is now Petro's Colombia Humana Party. He was also elected Mayor of Bogota himself in 2011. His tenure saw the homicide rate plummet to its lowest figures in two decades, dozens of women's health centres and over 400 day care centres were opened, and an ambitious water and wetlands conservation programme was implemented that saw animal-drawn vehicles removed from collecting garbage.

However, Petro would be recalled in 2013 after a mess involving updating the city's sanitation department and continued federal resistance to his plan to build a subway system for the city led to a petition and approval by the Federal Inspector General that was considered politically motivated by the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights. After the Commission's pronouncement, Petro finished his term. In 2018, he ran for President again and came in second place behind current President Ivan Duque. Coming in second entitled him to a Senate Seat, where he's been since.

As for his running mate, Francia Marquez first became a political activist in 1994 at age 13, when she tried to stop a dam from being built near her community of Yolombo, Cauca. Since then, she's been a fairly prominent environmental activist, receiving the Goldman Prize in 2018 for leading a protest march 350 miles to Bogota to demand a stop to illegal mining in her area. She's also advocated for indigenous and Afro-Colombian communities, of which she belongs to the latter. She got a law degree in 2020 and ran for the PH's Presidential Primary with PDA's support last year. She came in second behind Petro, and Petro offered her the VP job. She's the first Afro-Colombian to ever take part in a presidential primary and would be the first to be VP if she wins.

Petro's plans include a halt on oil exploration and a transition to green energy as a way of putting an end to illegal mineral exploitation. He plans to restrict open-pit mining and not to renew any new contracts in the industry. He also supports a mandatory minimum contribution to Colpensiones(Colombia's Social Security programme) and to raise payroll contributions among younger workers as a way to create a comprehensive national pension. He also plans to do to national infrastructure what he did to Bogota by focusing on clean water, clean electricity, improvements to health and education, and a rebuilding programme for the country's tertiary roads to improve farmers and working class people. He's also pushing for an industrialisation and modernisation of agriculture by taxing unproductive lands. His first act would be to declare a new state of emergency to address the nation's hunger issues, and he supports prosecuting Duque for his action in crushing protests last year. He also wants to create a new Ministry of Equality, and Marquez has said she would moved the office of the VP to Medellin. Finally, he plans to raise taxes on the wealthy and big corporations until they end up paying between 45-55% of the nation's revenue.

He is currently polling first with an average of 37%.

Federico Gutierrez and Rodrigo Lara Sanchez - Team for Colombia: Centre-right to Right

Gutierrez is a Medellin man through and through. He was born there, went to school at both the University of Medellin(civil engineering and senior management) and the Pontifical Bolivarian University(political science), and got involved in politics in his mid 20s, working as a territorial planning counselor for the city. By age 28, he was elected a Medellin City Councillor for the conservative New Party in 2003, serving only one term with them before moving to the U Party(led by Uribe at the time) for the rest of his tenure. He would also serve as a civil engineer working with a major consulting firm. He would serve as Council President in 2008. At this time, he would end up siding with both the then-Mayor Sergio Fajardo(see below, he's also running) and his successor Alonso Salazar, even as the two men quickly became rivals. He first ran for Mayor of Medellin in 2011 and ended up in third place. He vowed to run again in 2015, meanwhile, he would serve across Latin America as an urban planner, most notably in Buenos Aires.

For his 2015 run, Gutierrez got Fajardo's initial blessing to run in tandem with his preferred successor for Governor of Antioquia, Federico Restrepo. Then, Salazar decided to run for Mayor again, denouncing the now-independent Gutierrez as a Uribist in disguise and causing a schism within Fajardo's faction. Fajardo was pressured to drop Gutierrez and have Restrepo campaign with Salazar instead. Even so, Gutierrez managed to win the election by just over 10,000 votes over Uribe's actual preferred candidate. Gutierrez was the most popular mayor Medellin ever had with approvals over 85%, thanks in no small part to his successful attempts to drastically reduce violent crime in the ancestral home city of Pablo Escobar. He also worked on pedestrianising Avendia La Playa, the city's main road on the coast. He served one term...and that's where some issues started.

Come the 2019 election, the Prosecutor General's office in Bogota was investigating him for providing improper support to Santiago Gomez for Mayor(Gomez lost the election). He's also been accused by the current mayor, Daniel Quintero, of concealing errors in the Hidroituango Dam project(the dam on the Rio Cauca bust in 2019 and put 17 communities in danger). Even so, there have been no sanctions by the Attorney General or the National Comptroller on either of these things or on possible connection betwen him and one of his former municipal secretaries who tried to make peace with some of the city's gangs. He himself is running for Creemos Colombia, though his coalition is full of other conservative parties like the U Party, the Conservatives, and the Iglesia de Dios-led MIRA.

At his side, Rodrigo Lara Sanchez is from a major political family. His father, Rodrigo Lara Bonilla, was Justice Minister in President Belisario Betancur's Administration until his assassination in 1984 at the hands of Escobar's Medellin Cartel(Bonilla was known as a fairly honest minister and had been heavily prosecuting cartel members). Lara Sanchez himself also has a half-brother on his father's side, Rodrigo Lara Restrepo, who currently serves as a Senator for the Radical Change party and was President of the Chamber. His main profession has originally been as a doctor, specialising in thoracic surgery at both Shaio Clinic and Hernando Moncaleano Perdomo University Hospital. He's also taught medicine at most major Colombian medical schools. His first foray into politics was also thanks to Fajardo and Uribe as he joined their Citizens' Commitment Party to run for Senate in Hulia but lost. He would be elected Mayor of Hulia's capital city, Neiva, in 2015. As Mayor, he built new sports venues, created after-school music programmes for kids, and improved infrastructure.

For policies, Gutierrez is pushing to reduce Colombia's near 14% unemployment back down to single digits by investing in agriculture and the construction of new housing. He also wants to expand skills training and reform the educational system while preferring decentralisation for state affairs, and increased deregulation. Like all Colombian politicians, he wants to fight corruption and cut the nation's poverty rate in half. He also plans to improve public safety by increasing army and police presences in troubled areas while improving social programmes.

Gutierrez is polling second with 26%.

Rodolfo Hernandez and Marelen Castillo - LIGA(League of Anti-Corruption Governors): Big Tent Populist

Hernandez has spent most of his life in Bucaramanga, Santander, at least since his high school days. He and two of his brothers are civil engineers, and he started a house construction firm back in 1972. He's made quite a bit of money working not just in Bucaramanga but in larger cities like Barranquilla and Villavicencio as well. He would also start becoming interested in regional urban development projects. He didn't even get involved in politics until 2011, when he was elected as a Councillor for the Bucaramanga community of Piedecuesta. He also financed the campaign of the ultimately-victorious Mayoral candidate Luis Bohorquez, and his sister-in-law got a job in City Hall. Bohorquez, however, didn't share Hernandez's interests in urban revitalisation, so Hernandez decided to run for Mayor of Bucaramanga himself in 2015. He won but did not get to serve his full term after the Attorney General's office had him suspended for physically assaulting a city councillor. On top of that, he was implicated for undue forays into political activism, primarily of the right populist kind. He's also being investigated for irregularities into a consulting contract for waste management when he was on the board of directors of waste management firm Entorno Verde. Finally, there's audio evidence that suggests that LIGA Congressfolk(of which there are two Representatives) have to provide 10% of their salaries to him. Despite all this, he has slowly been rising in the polls. Little is available regarding his running mate except that she's got a PH.D in education and is a biochemist.

For policies, he wants to reduce Colombia's VAT to 10% from the current 19% and eliminate it entirely on food products. He wishes to re-establish relations with Venezuela even though he's made many xenophobic comment about Venezuelan refugees and immigrants.

Hernandez is currently third at about 11%.

Sergio Fajardo and Luis Gilberto Murillo - Hope Center: Centre

We've met the students, now to meet the teacher. Fajardo, like Gutierrez, was a Mayor of Medellin known for slashing crime. Before that, he was a math teacher who got his doctorate at UW-Madison. His first political moves were as part of the Antioquia Peace Commission trying to restore peace in the department. He also worked in local radio and television in Medellin and as a newspaper columnist. He was first elected Mayor in 2003, the first Independent to get the job. He was also known for building library parks, most notably the Spanish Library Park with funds from the Spanish King Juan Carlos...which is currently closed down due to structural issues caused by shoddy construction. He also hosted a weekly TV series where he'd go to different parts of the city and discuss issues with residents. He served his term and returned to politics in 2010 as VP candidate for Antanas Mockus' Green Alliance, and the ticket came in second to Santos. The following year, he was elected Governor of Antioquia as an independent with Liberal support.

As Governor, the Library Parks programme was repeated on a larger scale, and literacy and education levels rose. His tenure was known for its openness, transparency and accountability across Latin America. He ran for President in 2018 with the Green Alliance, Democratic Pole, and the Compromiso Ciudadano, now a more pragmatic force, behind him. He also asked Senator Claudia Lopez to be his running mate, the first time any LGBTQ+ person was put on the ticket for a major campaign. He came in a very close third behind Petro, and despite saying he wouldn't run again, decided to do so this time around with the ASI(Independent Social Alliance - a First Nations-based centre-left party).

However...he was recently under investigation himself. Remember Hidroituango from above? Fajardo's on the board of directors of EPM, the corporate conglomerate that did such a botch-up on the dam's construction. The Comptroller General's office claims that he didn't let the departmental government or federal government know about how expensive the project was getting(up to COL$4.7 trillion - roughly US$1.3 billion) and that he did not properly supervise the construction or the aftermath. In January, the investigation concluded that Fajardo is not at fault as EPM's insurance companies have paid the damages. He maintains to this day that he did not have any control over the project himself. He also has an embezzlement investigation from his Governorship where he allegedly allowed contracts to be signed in US dollars rather than Pesos, benefitting third parties.

Next to him, Luis Gilberto Murillo is a fairly prominent figure in both Colombia and the US. He scored among the highest on the nation's collegiate qualifiers, so he got a government scholarship to study abroad. He went to Moscow State University and got a degrees in mining engineering and engineering sciences, he also received a teaching certificate for Russian Language studies. He decided to forgo a PhD course and returned to his home in Choco Department for practical experience. He was chosen to lead CODECHOCO at age 27 in 1993, which is Choco's Sustainable Development Corporation, and he put a lot of focus on environmental conservation and land rights in his own Afro-Colombian community. By 1995, he was working with Bogota Mayor Antanas Mockus in the city planning and budget department. The Liberals selected him to be their candidate for Governor in the 1997 election, which he narrowly won. He only served one year as the Council of State ruled(in what some called a politically motivated decision) that certain votes were illegal, thus Murillo was never truly elected. In 2000, he was abducted by a paramilitary force that released him hours later, which led to him fleeing Colombia for Washington, DC, not to be confused with Bogota, DC.

He became US-Colombian Policy Coordinator at the large nonprofit Lutheran World Relief before being promoted to Senior International Policy Analyst for the group. He would also write numerous columns for US newspapers and even worked with USAID and the World Bank. He returned to Colombia in 2011 and ran for Governor of Choco again, this time for Radical Change. He won again and was ejected again, this time after just 10 months due to being convicted of embezzlement from his first governorship. The crime involved sending COL$5 million(under US$1,400) to a school in need of repairs out of an environmental sanitation fund for mining areas. He spent the next two years trying to clear his name, which resulted in finally being cleared of sanctions in 2013. In 2016, Juan Manuel Santos appointed him Environment and Sustainable Development Minister, the first Afro-Colombian to the post. He served until Santos' term was up.

Fajardo plans to create a new Women's Ministry, guarantee free university tuition for all, and wants to use national funding to create an emergency employment programme for social service and construction jobs among others. He also wants to return to national in-person teaching to address the pandemic's negative effects on students.


Took me six hours to write all that....but I have to say that Fajardo would be OK if it wasn't for his corruption issues. As it is, I'm behind Petro and I do believe he'll win in June
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Shrillland wrote:Colombia election stuff


I do have really high hopes for Colombia come May 29th, given that the Historic Pact won the legislative elections held this March and the fact that there isn't really a strong right-wing opposition candidate to Petro like last time. If Fajardo and other minor left-leaning candidates rally around Petro, I have a strong feeling he'll finally win the Presidency. His victory would also be quite a landmark, given that Colombia hasn't had a truly left-wing President in decades.
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Postby Shrillland » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:22 am

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Shrillland wrote:Colombia election stuff


I do have really high hopes for Colombia come May 29th, given that the Historic Pact won the legislative elections held this March and the fact that there isn't really a strong right-wing opposition candidate to Petro like last time. If Fajardo and other minor left-leaning candidates rally around Petro, I have a strong feeling he'll finally win the Presidency. His victory would also be quite a landmark, given that Colombia hasn't had a truly left-wing President in decades.


It's never had one. And I mean never. Colombia always prided itself on being the most Right-wing nation in the Americas, and for them to be the last domino to fall is going to bolster the left across Latin America.
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Well, at least we know the trajectory Nicaragua is likely to persist in under Ortega. Greater repression of the political opposition, more backsliding on promises made in the 1990s and 2000s, and, in all likelihood, the continued ostracizing of old Sandinistas as Ortega takes the country in an increasingly capitalist and autocratic direction.
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Blargoblarg wrote:Good. OAS has long been a tool for US Imperialism in Latin America.

Well, at least we know the trajectory Nicaragua is likely to persist in under Ortega. Greater repression of the political opposition, more backsliding on promises made in the 1990s and 2000s, and, in all likelihood, the continued ostracizing of old Sandinistas as Ortega takes the country in an increasingly capitalist and autocratic direction.

Fun fact: there used to be an anti-Ortega Sandinista party in the 2000s until he banned them, thus forcing Nicaraguan leftists to support him.
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Arisyan wrote:Fun fact: there used to be an anti-Ortega Sandinista party in the 2000s until he banned them, thus forcing Nicaraguan leftists to support him.

Ortega isn't much of a leftist. :lol:

But, given he's thrown multiple Sandinistas in prison, I can't say I'm surprised.

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Arisyan wrote:Fun fact: there used to be an anti-Ortega Sandinista party in the 2000s until he banned them, thus forcing Nicaraguan leftists to support him.

Ortega isn't much of a leftist. :lol:

But, given he's thrown multiple Sandinistas in prison, I can't say I'm surprised.

He used to be a leftist during his first terms as President, but after he came to power in 2006 he quickly got corrupted by power, money and neoliberalism and he's now just an authoritarian, corrupt capitalist. The Sandinista Reform Movement was quite successful when they ran for office, but then he realized that they could soon siphon away his support so he basically banned them and imprisoned all the higher ups within the party. They still technically exist, but they haven't run for elected office in years.
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2 years? Seems too long IMO, they should just hold another election or appoint his closest version of a deputy. Though, I don't know the protocol for British overseas territories.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:18 pm

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2 years? Seems too long IMO, they should just hold another election or appoint his closest version of a deputy. Though, I don't know the protocol for British overseas territories.


Well, it wouldn't be the first time home rule was suspended over excessive corruption, which was a finding of the Governor's investigation. The Caymans had home rule taken away for a similar period in the last decade for similar issues. The Governor asks the FCO to impose direct rule, and the Foreign Secretary makes the final decision.
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Postby Arisyan » Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:51 pm


Damn, he really is going for the world record for most failed impeachments. Can he even govern at this point? Or is the legislative gridlock too restrictive?
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Postby Arisyan » Thu May 12, 2022 5:43 pm


I still find it fascinating how St Kitts and Nevis can have a functioning parliamentary system with only 11 seats. That's small than most city councils.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu May 12, 2022 5:48 pm

Arisyan wrote:

I still find it fascinating how St Kitts and Nevis can have a functioning parliamentary system with only 11 seats. That's small than most city councils.


Well, it's not like they're a big country, they only have 52,000 people or thereabouts. Smallest sovereign state in the Hemisphere. What's even more astonishing is that they're a federation.
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Postby Arisyan » Thu May 12, 2022 5:53 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Arisyan wrote:I still find it fascinating how St Kitts and Nevis can have a functioning parliamentary system with only 11 seats. That's small than most city councils.


Well, it's not like they're a big country, they only have 52,000 people or thereabouts. Smallest sovereign state in the Hemisphere. What's even more astonishing is that they're a federation.

Yeah, Nevis has a pretty strong and independent culture, even though they only have like 15,000 people. They in fact even almost voted to become independent in the 90s, though it appears separatist sentiment has died down.

(The Nevis Assembly only has 5 seats, which is genuinely fascinating given that political parties do operate in the territory.)
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Finally next year, Paraguays unequal treaty with Brazil when it comes to the joint Hydroelectric dam expires. In a secret agreement signed in 1973 between Paraguays then longterm dictator and Brazils dictator, Paraguay could not sell any unused electric power back to a third nation. They had to sell it back to Brazil at cost. This represented alot of electric power since Paraguay did not and does not use much electric power. The current Paraguayan government is negotiating a new fair agreement with Brazil. Chances are Brazil will now have to pay a fair price plus Paraguay will be able to export some of that electric power to a third nation like Chile which needs it.
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Postby Fahran » Sat May 21, 2022 2:04 pm

Rio Cana wrote:Finally next year, Paraguays unequal treaty with Brazil when it comes to the joint Hydroelectric dam expires. In a secret agreement signed in 1973 between Paraguays then longterm dictator and Brazils dictator, Paraguay could not sell any unused electric power back to a third nation. They had to sell it back to Brazil at cost. This represented alot of electric power since Paraguay did not and does not use much electric power. The current Paraguayan government is negotiating a new fair agreement with Brazil. Chances are Brazil will now have to pay a fair price plus Paraguay will be able to export some of that electric power to a third nation like Chile which needs it.

This is really good news for one of my favorite countries in Latin America. I'm hoping revenues from the new deal can be reinvested in the Paraguayan economy and in services for the people. It'd be a much needed boost.

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That's not news to me, but it remains utterly scandalous. The whole way Haiti as been treated by France since Napoleon took over has been totally shameful. No wonder the place is in such a disastrous situation... :(
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