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by Kowani » Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:49 pm
Chalus (GUSR): 49%
Borel-Lincertin (FGPS): 17%
Selbonne (ANG): 9%
Letchimy (PPM): 32%
Marie-Jeanne (MIM): 26%
Monplaisir (LR): 4.7%
Nilor (Peyi-A): 12%
Conconne (LME): 10.6%
Jock (Ind.): 3.9%
Bellay (FSM): 3.6%
Berisson (AKM): 2.2%
Orville (MoDem): 1.4%
R. Monplaisir (LREM) 1.1%
Ferdinand (Ind.) 1.1%
Sellaye (GRS) 0.7%
Petis (UDI) 0.5%
Jean-Marie (CO) 0.6%
Alexandre (GR): 44%
Serville (Péyi-G): 28%
Fereira (AGEG): 23%
Americain (CDA): 5%
by Thermodolia » Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:33 pm
Kowani wrote:French Colonies hold Regional Elections!
GuadaloupeChalus (GUSR): 49%
Borel-Lincertin (FGPS): 17%
Selbonne (ANG): 9%
MartiniqueLetchimy (PPM): 32%
Marie-Jeanne (MIM): 26%
Monplaisir (LR): 4.7%
Nilor (Peyi-A): 12%
Conconne (LME): 10.6%
Jock (Ind.): 3.9%
Bellay (FSM): 3.6%
Berisson (AKM): 2.2%
Orville (MoDem): 1.4%
R. Monplaisir (LREM) 1.1%
Ferdinand (Ind.) 1.1%
Sellaye (GRS) 0.7%
Petis (UDI) 0.5%
Jean-Marie (CO) 0.6%
French GuianaAlexandre (GR): 44%
Serville (Péyi-G): 28%
Fereira (AGEG): 23%
Americain (CDA): 5%
by Shrillland » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:59 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Kowani wrote:French Colonies hold Regional Elections!
GuadaloupeChalus (GUSR): 49%
Borel-Lincertin (FGPS): 17%
Selbonne (ANG): 9%
MartiniqueLetchimy (PPM): 32%
Marie-Jeanne (MIM): 26%
Monplaisir (LR): 4.7%
Nilor (Peyi-A): 12%
Conconne (LME): 10.6%
Jock (Ind.): 3.9%
Bellay (FSM): 3.6%
Berisson (AKM): 2.2%
Orville (MoDem): 1.4%
R. Monplaisir (LREM) 1.1%
Ferdinand (Ind.) 1.1%
Sellaye (GRS) 0.7%
Petis (UDI) 0.5%
Jean-Marie (CO) 0.6%
French GuianaAlexandre (GR): 44%
Serville (Péyi-G): 28%
Fereira (AGEG): 23%
Americain (CDA): 5%
Even though this isn’t even close to being Latin America. Though holy shit does Martinique have a lot of parties
by Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:58 pm
The Archregimancy wrote:Greater Miami Shores wrote:Viva right wing Keiko Fujimori and Viva right wing Alberto Fujimori, the Greatest Democratic President of El Peru. I am a Proud Fujimorista, with Pride and Honor.
Leaving aside the human rights convictions, which I imagine you would dismiss as politically motivated, Señor Fujimori was sent to prison after he admitted embezzling USD$ 15 million, and additionally pleaded guilty to bribery and illegal phone-tapping.
That does suggest a certain level of corruption that most of us would be slow to tolerate in an elected head of state.
by Cultural Posadism » Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:34 pm
Greater Miami Shores wrote:The Archregimancy wrote:
Leaving aside the human rights convictions, which I imagine you would dismiss as politically motivated, Señor Fujimori was sent to prison after he admitted embezzling USD$ 15 million, and additionally pleaded guilty to bribery and illegal phone-tapping.
That does suggest a certain level of corruption that most of us would be slow to tolerate in an elected head of state.
Arch I understand your post too me. I know you don't say this about me, but I am not politically stupid as certain persons have posted too me, because they strongly disagree with my views, which I respectfully post back too them. I find it interesting, many persons want me GMS to condemn Alberto Fujimori of El Peru. As the Peruvian People call Peru. But, I have posted on this thread with links, on my native Cuba, the recent Cuban Balsero rafters, the recent Cuban Baseball Player defectors in Miami. I have posted about Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba. I have posted about Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba. The re education camps in Cuba. Please view the link provided, https://ida.mtholyoke.edu/handle/10166/4039 Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez, Manuel Marrero Cruz of my native Cuba. I have posted about General, Luis Alberto Rodríguez López-Callejas, father of Raúl Castro Ruz, 2 grand children, as the real power in Cuba after, Raúl Castro Ruz, head of Gaviota and Gaesa Corporations, in charge of the military run hotels, restaurants, car rental agencies, most of the retail trade, the so callled Port of Mariel Free Trade Zone, I can post about in great details. A video link of how the Castro family and its eternal leaders, live like rich capitalists $, while my family in Cuba live poor. Please view the video link provided, https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120 I have posted about Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua. I have posted about Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela. Hugo Chávez Frías, in Venezuela. I have asked all Persons on NS to condemn them like this:
To all Persons on NS Please condemn all these nation leaders for their undemocratic crimes?
01 - Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
02 - Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
03 - Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua?
04 - Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela?
05 - Hugo Chávez Frias of Venezuela?
06 - Please condemn the undemocratic rebels of the time years ago?
To all Persons on NS do you support these democratic nation leaders, or any way you wish to define them, please specify?
07 - Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
08 - Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
09 - Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua?
10 - Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela?
11 - Hugo Chávez Frias of Venezuela?
No Persons have made any comments on the Cuban Balsero Rafters escaping my native Cuba on raft or boats across 90 miles of shark infested waters? No Persons have made any comments on the recent Cuban Baseball Players Defectors? All Persons have refused too condemn any of these nation leaders, which they have a right too? Therm, made a mild anti comment against Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua. Another Poster made a comment against all after I asked him. All other Persons refuse to do so, which they have a right too? But many of these Persons if not all, want me to condemn Alberto Fujimori of El Peru? As a native Cuban and American Citizen, I have to wonder why? Why should I GMS be held to a different and higher standard? If anything we are even on the standards? Thank you for quoting me.
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by Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:51 pm
Cultural Posadism wrote:Greater Miami Shores wrote:Arch I understand your post too me. I know you don't say this about me, but I am not politically stupid as certain persons have posted too me, because they strongly disagree with my views, which I respectfully post back too them. I find it interesting, many persons want me GMS to condemn Alberto Fujimori of El Peru. As the Peruvian People call Peru. But, I have posted on this thread with links, on my native Cuba, the recent Cuban Balsero rafters, the recent Cuban Baseball Player defectors in Miami. I have posted about Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba. I have posted about Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba. The re education camps in Cuba. Please view the link provided, https://ida.mtholyoke.edu/handle/10166/4039 Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez, Manuel Marrero Cruz of my native Cuba. I have posted about General, Luis Alberto Rodríguez López-Callejas, father of Raúl Castro Ruz, 2 grand children, as the real power in Cuba after, Raúl Castro Ruz, head of Gaviota and Gaesa Corporations, in charge of the military run hotels, restaurants, car rental agencies, most of the retail trade, the so callled Port of Mariel Free Trade Zone, I can post about in great details. A video link of how the Castro family and its eternal leaders, live like rich capitalists $, while my family in Cuba live poor. Please view the video link provided, https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120 I have posted about Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua. I have posted about Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela. Hugo Chávez Frías, in Venezuela. I have asked all Persons on NS to condemn them like this:
To all Persons on NS Please condemn all these nation leaders for their undemocratic crimes?
01 - Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
02 - Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
03 - Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua?
04 - Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela?
05 - Hugo Chávez Frias of Venezuela?
06 - Please condemn the undemocratic rebels of the time years ago?
To all Persons on NS do you support these democratic nation leaders, or any way you wish to define them, please specify?
07 - Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
08 - Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
09 - Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua?
10 - Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela?
11 - Hugo Chávez Frias of Venezuela?
12 - Do you support the democratic rebels of the time years ago in El Peru?
No Persons have made any comments on the Cuban Balsero Rafters escaping my native Cuba on raft or boats across 90 miles of shark infested waters? No Persons have made any comments on the recent Cuban Baseball Players Defectors? All Persons have refused too condemn any of these nation leaders, which they have a right too? Therm, made a mild anti comment against Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua. Another Poster made a comment against all after I asked him. All other Persons refuse to do so, which they have a right too? But many of these Persons if not all, want me to condemn Alberto Fujimori of El Peru? As a native Cuban and American Citizen, I have to wonder why? Why should I GMS be held to a different and higher standard? If anything we are even on the standards? Thank you for quoting me.
You're avoiding the question with a repetitive and overwritten whataboutism. People haven't commented on Cuba, Nicaragua or Venezuela because the discussion isn't about them. It's about Peru. You turning around at the slightest prodding over your Fujimorism and whining "BUT WHAT ABOUT MY NATIVE CUBA AND VUVUZELA??!!!!" is not a valid response in any way shape or form. You're wasting your time (and yours) trying to distract us from the fact that you are incapable of supporting your claims with anything more than your (dubiously sincere) belief in them.
by The Archregimancy » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:47 am
Greater Miami Shores wrote:The Archregimancy wrote:
Leaving aside the human rights convictions, which I imagine you would dismiss as politically motivated, Señor Fujimori was sent to prison after he admitted embezzling USD$ 15 million, and additionally pleaded guilty to bribery and illegal phone-tapping.
That does suggest a certain level of corruption that most of us would be slow to tolerate in an elected head of state.
Arch I understand your post too me. I know you don't say this about me, but I am not politically stupid as certain persons have posted too me, because they strongly disagree with my views, which I respectfully post back too them. I find it interesting, many persons want me GMS to condemn Alberto Fujimori of El Peru. As the Peruvian People call Peru. But, I have posted on this thread with links, on my native Cuba, the recent Cuban Balsero rafters, the recent Cuban Baseball Player defectors in Miami. I have posted about Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba. I have posted about Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba. The re education camps in Cuba. Please view the link provided, https://ida.mtholyoke.edu/handle/10166/4039 Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez, Manuel Marrero Cruz of my native Cuba. I have posted about General, Luis Alberto Rodríguez López-Callejas, father of Raúl Castro Ruz, 2 grand children, as the real power in Cuba after, Raúl Castro Ruz, head of Gaviota and Gaesa Corporations, in charge of the military run hotels, restaurants, car rental agencies, most of the retail trade, the so callled Port of Mariel Free Trade Zone, I can post about in great details. A video link of how the Castro family and its eternal leaders, live like rich capitalists $, while my family in Cuba live poor. Please view the video link provided, https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120 I have posted about Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua. I have posted about Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela. Hugo Chávez Frías, in Venezuela. I have asked all Persons on NS to condemn them like this:
To all Persons on NS Please condemn all these nation leaders for their undemocratic crimes?
01 - Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
02 - Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
03 - Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua?
04 - Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela?
05 - Hugo Chávez Frias of Venezuela?
06 - Please condemn the undemocratic rebels of the time years ago?
To all Persons on NS do you support these democratic nation leaders, or any way you wish to define them, please specify?
07 - Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
08 - Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
09 - Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua?
10 - Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela?
11 - Hugo Chávez Frias of Venezuela?
12 - Do you support the democratic rebels of the time years ago in El Peru?
No Persons have made any comments on the Cuban Balsero Rafters escaping my native Cuba on raft or boats across 90 miles of shark infested waters? No Persons have made any comments on the recent Cuban Baseball Players Defectors? All Persons have refused too condemn any of these nation leaders, which they have a right too? Therm, made a mild anti comment against Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua. Another Poster made a comment against all after I asked him. All other Persons refuse to do so, which they have a right too? But many of these Persons if not all, want me to condemn Alberto Fujimori of El Peru? As a native Cuban and American Citizen, I have to wonder why? Why should I GMS be held to a different and higher standard? If anything we are even on the standards? Thank you for quoting me.
For the Record. I added question 12 to my post above, It was an honest mistake that I think I accidentally deleted the question on one of the edits to the Post.
by Greater Miami Shores » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:30 am
The Archregimancy wrote:Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Arch I understand your post too me. I know you don't say this about me, but I am not politically stupid as certain persons have posted too me, because they strongly disagree with my views, which I respectfully post back too them. I find it interesting, many persons want me GMS to condemn Alberto Fujimori of El Peru. As the Peruvian People call Peru. But, I have posted on this thread with links, on my native Cuba, the recent Cuban Balsero rafters, the recent Cuban Baseball Player defectors in Miami. I have posted about Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba. I have posted about Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba. The re education camps in Cuba. Please view the link provided, https://ida.mtholyoke.edu/handle/10166/4039 Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez, Manuel Marrero Cruz of my native Cuba. I have posted about General, Luis Alberto Rodríguez López-Callejas, father of Raúl Castro Ruz, 2 grand children, as the real power in Cuba after, Raúl Castro Ruz, head of Gaviota and Gaesa Corporations, in charge of the military run hotels, restaurants, car rental agencies, most of the retail trade, the so callled Port of Mariel Free Trade Zone, I can post about in great details. A video link of how the Castro family and its eternal leaders, live like rich capitalists $, while my family in Cuba live poor. Please view the video link provided, https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120 I have posted about Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua. I have posted about Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela. Hugo Chávez Frías, in Venezuela. I have asked all Persons on NS to condemn them like this:
To all Persons on NS Please condemn all these nation leaders for their undemocratic crimes?
01 - Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
02 - Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
03 - Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua?
04 - Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela?
05 - Hugo Chávez Frias of Venezuela?
06 - Please condemn the undemocratic rebels of the time years ago?
To all Persons on NS do you support these democratic nation leaders, or any way you wish to define them, please specify?
07 - Fidel Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
08 - Raúl Castro Ruz of my native Cuba?
09 - Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua?
10 - Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela?
11 - Hugo Chávez Frias of Venezuela?
12 - Do you support the democratic rebels of the time years ago in El Peru?
No Persons have made any comments on the Cuban Balsero Rafters escaping my native Cuba on raft or boats across 90 miles of shark infested waters? No Persons have made any comments on the recent Cuban Baseball Players Defectors? All Persons have refused too condemn any of these nation leaders, which they have a right too? Therm, made a mild anti comment against Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua. Another Poster made a comment against all after I asked him. All other Persons refuse to do so, which they have a right too? But many of these Persons if not all, want me to condemn Alberto Fujimori of El Peru? As a native Cuban and American Citizen, I have to wonder why? Why should I GMS be held to a different and higher standard? If anything we are even on the standards? Thank you for quoting me.
For the Record. I added question 12 to my post above, It was an honest mistake that I think I accidentally deleted the question on one of the edits to the Post.
I equally condemn the human rights abuses and/or records of misgovernance of Alberto Fujimori, the Castro brothers, Daniel Ortega, Nicolás Maduro, and Hugo Chávez; and Alfredo Stroessner, Augusto Pinochet, Anastasio Somoza Debayle, and various other Latin American strong men of both left and right who've been in power during my lifetime. I don't find it hard to condemn the records of all of these men, while also recognising that there are sometimes shades of grey, that several of them had achievements of varying significance to their names, but that these don't outweigh the negatives.
So I don't see this as a left/right issue; both the far right and the far left have a poor record in South and Central America, and I think it's perfectly possible to condemn misrule regardless of the underlying ideology. I just wish you could do the same.
Y he trabajado en Venezuela, GMS.
by Kubra » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:31 am
Personally, I have been corrected her and had to change my views multiple times.Greater Miami Shores wrote:Kilobugya wrote:
No, we don't. We all live in the same objective reality, and there is a single set of facts. "Alternative facts" is just euphemism for "lies".
Then there are opinions, which we may disagree with. But facts and opinions are not interchangeable.
The Earth is mostly a sphere, it revolves around the Sun (doing a slow-p recessing ellipse), vaccines work and are safe, Trump lost the 2021 election, climate change is real and human CO2 emissions contribute to it, Alberto Fujimori is in jail for crimes against humanity and corruption. Those are facts, and we shouldn't be able to disagree on them, and if we do, be examining strong evidence from reliable source, we should end up agreeing.
Means of production should be socialized, it's important to get rid of fossil fuels ASAP, "free market" fails to fulfill people's need and to protect workers and the environment, Trump is a sociopath that shouldn't be anymore near any position of powers, people should be mostly free to move around the world without borders. Those are opinions, and we can disagree with them for long.
Have you ever on NS or other Political Forums agreed with any persons who disagree with you? Have you ever told them, I agree with you now, my bad? They have never told me this and US in over 10 Years on NS and other Political forum sites and news sites I Post on, and we Post on? I Rest My Case? This goes for all Persons on NS and discord and off NS and Discord? Since many of us are also on Discord.
by Cultural Posadism » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:36 am
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Cultural Posadism wrote:You're avoiding the question with a repetitive and overwritten whataboutism. People haven't commented on Cuba, Nicaragua or Venezuela because the discussion isn't about them. It's about Peru. You turning around at the slightest prodding over your Fujimorism and whining "BUT WHAT ABOUT MY NATIVE CUBA AND VUVUZELA??!!!!" is not a valid response in any way shape or form. You're wasting your time (and yours) trying to distract us from the fact that you are incapable of supporting your claims with anything more than your (dubiously sincere) belief in them.
Please answer the 12 questions, thank you?
12 - Do you support the democratic rebels of the time years ago in El Peru?
For the Record. I added question 12 to my post above, It was an honest mistake that I think I accidentally deleted the question on one of the edits to the Post.
This thread is about all Latin American Nations. Cuba. El Peru, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Bolivia, even the USA, I can Post them all, but this will do for now. They are related to the issues of dictatorships and Democracy we are all discussing on this thread, and
I am comparing, Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela, which are very similar and are not my native nations, respectfully towards each other.
by Kowani » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:18 pm
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by Kilobugya » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:41 pm
Kowani wrote:Peruvian ex-congressman Fernando Olivera presents tapes that purport the former head of the country's intelligence agency, Vladimiro Montesino attempted to coordinate election fraud in favor of Keiko Fujimori in the second round with Kenji Fujimori Army Commander Pedro Rejas Tataje, and Guillermo Sendón
by World Anarchic Union » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:46 pm
Kowani wrote:Peruvian ex-congressman Fernando Olivera presents tapes that purport the former head of the country's intelligence agency, Vladimiro Montesino attempted to coordinate election fraud in favor of Keiko Fujimori in the second round with Kenji Fujimori Army Commander Pedro Rejas Tataje, and Guillermo Sendón
by Shrillland » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:53 pm
World Anarchic Union wrote:Kowani wrote:Peruvian ex-congressman Fernando Olivera presents tapes that purport the former head of the country's intelligence agency, Vladimiro Montesino attempted to coordinate election fraud in favor of Keiko Fujimori in the second round with Kenji Fujimori Army Commander Pedro Rejas Tataje, and Guillermo Sendón
It certainly wouldn’t be the first time Montesinos is involved in such a scheme.
And it makes sense, Fujimori is the candidate with the connections, especially with such people like Montesinos, who are very knowledgeable on how to fix elections, if there was fraud, it would, mainly at least, come from her side.
by Shrillland » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:00 pm
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