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Who do you support to become the next Labour Party Leader?

Clive Lewis (DROPPED OUT)
2
2%
Keir Starmer (Shadow Brexit Secretary, MP for Holborn and St Pancras)
48
41%
Lisa Nandy (MP for Wigan)
11
9%
Jess Phillips (DROPPED OUT)
17
15%
Emily Thornberry (Shadow First Secretary of State, MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
7
6%
Yvette Cooper (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Dan Jarvis (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Ian Lavery (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Rebecca Long Bailey (Shadow Business Secretary, MP for Salford and Eccles)
17
15%
Other (Please state who in a reply)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 116

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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:52 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:hold up guys heres how bernie can still win


I enjoyed those articles throughout 2016 and early 2017

I still find those less embarrassing in hindsight than all those people who tried to come up with scenarios in which the Electoral College would still choose Hillary over Trump.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:53 pm

Liriena wrote:
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Battering people who want to slash the NHS is not self-defence or defence of others in any reasonable legal definition wtf man

What if we changed the legal definition?

I mean... you can't tell me that you've never found it a bit messed up that politicians can pass laws guaranteed to ruin the lives of you and others and can't face any legal repercussions unless they, like, personally poured poison into the water supply?


I'm in favor of this tbh

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Postby Purgatio » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:53 pm

Elekted Godek wrote:Sinn Fein landslide everyone. Britain loves them some Irish.


So....Parliament would be empty all year round?
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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:53 pm

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The Two Jerseys wrote:Now that's a surprise result.

Given that the SNP didn't have candidates in most constituencies it'd be a sign of some absolutely grotesque vote rigging. :lol2:

Nicola Sturgeon now has to stand for 300 constituencies at the same time, the poor gal.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:53 pm

Conservatives take Wrexham and Peterborough.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:53 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Now that's a surprise result.

Given that the SNP didn't have candidates in most constituencies it'd be a sign of some absolutely grotesque vote rigging. :lol2:

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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:53 pm

Liriena wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I enjoyed those articles throughout 2016 and early 2017

I still find those less embarrassing in hindsight than all those people who tried to come up with scenarios in which the Electoral College would still choose Hillary over Trump.


I thought that is what he was referencing but making a shot at Corbyn being Bernie at the same time tbh.

"Here's how Hillary could still be President". etc.
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:54 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:hold up guys heres how bernie can still win

Dont you have leatherneck shit to do tt?

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:54 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Elekted Godek wrote:Sinn Fein landslide everyone. Britain loves them some Irish.


So....Parliament would be empty all year round?

Why not
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:54 pm

Our first NI seat, Alliance take North Down.
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Postby Thanatttynia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:54 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Elekted Godek wrote:Sinn Fein landslide everyone. Britain loves them some Irish.


So....Parliament would be empty all year round?

Perhaps something to try, can't be any worse than it is currently
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:55 pm

ALLIANCE TOOK NORTH DOWN


FUCKING GET IN YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD STEPHEN!!!!



YEEEEOOOOOOOOO
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Won't pretend I don't derive some kind of sick satisfaction from the disappointment of the Owen Jones/Ash Sarkar/Grace Blakeley 'alternative' vote-red-or-die types. I'm not proud of it but it's there
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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:56 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
So....Parliament would be empty all year round?

Perhaps something to try, can't be any worse than it is currently

Can't gut the NHS is there's no one to cut it.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:57 pm

Labour take Putney, SNP take Angus.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:57 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
So....Parliament would be empty all year round?

Perhaps something to try, can't be any worse than it is currently

Maximum devolution go
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Postby Philjia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:57 pm

Labour gained Putney from the Conservatives. I don't think there'll be many more gains.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:57 pm

Oh yay the SNP took a Tory seat.
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Postby Thanatttynia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:58 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:Won't pretend I don't derive some kind of sick satisfaction from the disappointment of the Owen Jones/Ash Sarkar/Grace Blakeley 'alternative' vote-red-or-die types. I'm not proud of it but it's there

Also very satisfying seeing the Con candidate in Putney losing to a Lab gain stood friendless on the stage
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Thanatttynia wrote:Won't pretend I don't derive some kind of sick satisfaction from the disappointment of the Owen Jones/Ash Sarkar/Grace Blakeley 'alternative' vote-red-or-die types. I'm not proud of it but it's there


One wonders who the Guardian will blame

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:58 pm

OK, if we're going to punch anyone for cheering when the results are read, it's going to be those Lib Dem supporters cheering for the candidate that clearly lost.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:59 pm

THEY TOOK NORTH DOWN WITH A 35.9% SWING! THE DUP EVEN LOST A FEW VOTES


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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:59 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Thanatttynia wrote:Won't pretend I don't derive some kind of sick satisfaction from the disappointment of the Owen Jones/Ash Sarkar/Grace Blakeley 'alternative' vote-red-or-die types. I'm not proud of it but it's there


One wonders who the Guardian will blame

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I am:
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An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Thanatttynia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:59 pm

Big swing to the SNP in Angus... unionist parties still a majority but not looking good for Scottish Conservatives
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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:59 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:
Thanatttynia wrote:Won't pretend I don't derive some kind of sick satisfaction from the disappointment of the Owen Jones/Ash Sarkar/Grace Blakeley 'alternative' vote-red-or-die types. I'm not proud of it but it's there

Also very satisfying seeing the Con candidate in Putney losing to a Lab gain stood friendless on the stage

No bulli but I actually like Owen and Ash.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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