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Who do you support to become the next Labour Party Leader?

Clive Lewis (DROPPED OUT)
2
2%
Keir Starmer (Shadow Brexit Secretary, MP for Holborn and St Pancras)
48
41%
Lisa Nandy (MP for Wigan)
11
9%
Jess Phillips (DROPPED OUT)
17
15%
Emily Thornberry (Shadow First Secretary of State, MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
7
6%
Yvette Cooper (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Dan Jarvis (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Ian Lavery (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Rebecca Long Bailey (Shadow Business Secretary, MP for Salford and Eccles)
17
15%
Other (Please state who in a reply)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 116

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:21 pm

Shrillland wrote:Labour hold Wansbeck, putting them over 10 seats.

Wansbeck was one of those seats LBC were saying the exit poll meant they'd struggle to hold.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:21 pm

Liriena wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Duluth model feminism.
Anti white racism in the media and by journalists.
UK rape gangs like rotherham.

Alright. Because your phrasing didn't make it clear enough whether you were speaking seriously or just being hyperbolic to make a point.

Ostroeuropa wrote:I'm pointing out how ludicrous it is to expect s population to support those policies in exchange for free healthcare.

You thought materialism would win out because you dont fully understand how evil feminist intersectionality is in practice.

The BNP were for decades far left on economics and failed for the same reason labour does

Okay. I can definitely see what you mean based on at least two of those examples.


Mate that's my fault I'm wrecked and have been since the call. No worries. I kept this shit to mus4lf. I argued fuckers join Labiur and change it. Anything ht vote Tory.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:22 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Liriena wrote:Alright. Because your phrasing didn't make it clear enough whether you were speaking seriously or just being hyperbolic to make a point.


Okay. I can definitely see what you mean based on at least two of those examples.


Mate that's my fault I'm wrecked and have been since the call. No worries.

:hug:
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:22 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:At least he'll give you a coffee mug.

Mugs are overrated. Real men drink their tea straight from the boiling kettle.


>He doesn't boil the water in his mouth by sheer force of will

Step your game up

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:23 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Speaking of, I heard tell that the gay community of Britain was asked to change their Grindr location to Uxbridge so they could message BoJo's local gays and try to get them out to vote. Very modern electoral strategy that I would advise Liriena to look into when next Argentina goes to the polls.


I can't speak for now since I'm not in the UK atm, but back in 2017 when I was, a lot of the Oxford students' Grindrs were telling people to go to the polls to vote Labour or whatever, using Grindr to get out the vote isn't a new strategy

I shouldn't be surprised that the gay community is a step ahead of me.


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The Two Jerseys wrote:At least he'll give you a coffee mug.

Mugs are overrated. Real men drink their tea straight from the boiling kettle.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:23 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Liriena wrote:Alright. Because your phrasing didn't make it clear enough whether you were speaking seriously or just being hyperbolic to make a point.


Okay. I can definitely see what you mean based on at least two of those examples.


Mate that's my fault I'm wrecked and have been since the call. No worries. I kept this shit to mus4lf. I argued fuckers join Labiur and change it. Anything ht vote Tory.


I'm almost a bottle of vodka in. Fuck.

Not sure I'll survive ther next 5 years.

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Postby Shrillland » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:23 pm

Conservatives take Workington. Workington Man is officially a bastard.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:23 pm

Liriena wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Mate that's my fault I'm wrecked and have been since the call. No worries.

:hug:


Profs are comatose and now its us arguing over why
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:24 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Liriena wrote:Mugs are overrated. Real men drink their tea straight from the boiling kettle.


>He doesn't boil the water in his mouth by sheer force of will

Step your game up

:lol: :hug:

Love me the new vaporwave flag.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:24 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:IfreanNHS.

Have I mentioned recently that "Ifreann" is the Irish word for "hell"? :lol2:

Oh. :lol:
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Postby Xuloqoia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:24 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Most of my friends are working class lol. I don't actually like many other rich people.


You need a more refined social circle, I think. You're like one of those rich people who eat at McDonalds or Five Guys. A palate needs to be refined over time just like a social calendar.


> You're like one of those rich people who eat at McDonalds or Five Guys.

Image


:p
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:24 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Have I mentioned recently that "Ifreann" is the Irish word for "hell"? :lol2:

Oh. :lol:

Not much different from my experience then.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:25 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Liriena wrote: :hug:


Profs are comatose and now its us arguing over why

Circle of life.
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I am:
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Political compass stuff:
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For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:25 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Oh. :lol:

Not much different from my experience then.

Telling you to come back later isn't "hell".
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:25 pm

If alliance takes a seat I might scream forewarning
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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:25 pm

Shrillland wrote:Conservatives take Workington. Workington Man is officially a bastard.

How much of a weather vane is that one?
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Political compass stuff:
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For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:25 pm

SNP take Rutherglen and Hamilton West.
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Postby Purgatio » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:26 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
You need a more refined social circle, I think. You're like one of those rich people who eat at McDonalds or Five Guys. A palate needs to be refined over time just like a social calendar.


> You're like one of those rich people who eat at McDonalds or Five Guys.

Image


:p


:p :p :p

Well, at least you're good humoured about this. That's always a laudable trait.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:26 pm

Liriena wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
>He doesn't boil the water in his mouth by sheer force of will

Step your game up

:lol: :hug:

Love me the new vaporwave flag.


Thank you Liri, you are too kind. I'm glad somebody liked it, though I admit I'm jealous of your rare Alex Jones.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:26 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:If alliance takes a seat I might scream forewarning

We can already hear your preemptive vibrations.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:26 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Mate that's my fault I'm wrecked and have been since the call. No worries. I kept this shit to mus4lf. I argued fuckers join Labiur and change it. Anything ht vote Tory.


I'm almost a bottle of vodka in. Fuck.

Not sure I'll survive ther next 5 years.

Wrecked bruv. Wrecked and CENSORED.. My fiance needs the NHS. Theyd better not.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:26 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:If alliance takes a seat I might scream forewarning

If this seat gets swiped from the SNP I may join you in said screaming.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Cerinda » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Labour hold South Shields.

Ya know what would be funny is if we end up with a hung parliament and the exit poll was just dead wrong

God I hope that's true.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:27 pm

Shrillland wrote:SNP take Rutherglen and Hamilton West.

Oh dear here come the Scotland results. Joy.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Xuloqoia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:28 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
> You're like one of those rich people who eat at McDonalds or Five Guys.

Image


:p


:p :p :p

Well, at least you're good humoured about this. That's always a laudable trait.


I mean, Five Guys is the patrician's fast food restaurant; admittedly that isn't saying much, but still. Although I very much prefer to cook things myself.
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