UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[Liriena]

hope jo and boris lose their sets for maximum chaos

ed milliband must be appeased

Wouldn't that be the meme to end all memes? The shocking election in which every major party leader lost.

[New Bremerton]

According to exit polls, Jeremy Corbyn needs to start writing his obituary now. Good riddance. I'll save the actual celebration for when the results are actually counted, but this is terrific news for Britain, Israel, Jews and the whole world.

[Fartsniffage]

Do not attribute to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity.
The thing is the Tories are genuinely weak on the NHS issue, but if you are not truthful about how they are bad, they can make everything you say look like a lie.

The whole boy who cried wolf.
There is an actual wolf, so you do not need to make up additional imaginary ones to make the real one seem more scary. Or say it is the size of an elephant when it is the size of well a wolf.

As the man said, if the Tories really wanted to sell off the NHS they would've done it ages ago.

You know how social security is the 3rd rail of American politics? The same is true of the NHS in the UK.

[Shrillland]

Labour hold Halton. With 10 seats in, Labour leads the Tories 8-2.

[Liriena]

Jeremy Vine back at it again with the silly CGI. I say this every election but WHAT is the benefit of bizarre computer graphics... marginally better than the 'race to No.10 down the actual gravel on Downing Street' but what is wrong with a bloody swingometer or a simple graph on a simple background?

Too much budget and a bunch of marketing execs with "bright" ideas is my hypothesis.

[Liriena]

Fuck alcohol. I demand legal marijuana and free munchies.

Drink up, bud.

But alcohol makes you fat

[Lower Nubia]

According to exit polls, Jeremy Corbyn needs to start writing his obituary now. Good riddance. I'll save the actual celebration for when the results are actually counted, but this is terrific news for Britain, Israel, Jews and the whole world.

Oh do fuck off.

[The New California Republic]

Jeremy Vine back at it again with the silly CGI. I say this every election but WHAT is the benefit of bizarre computer graphics... marginally better than the 'race to No.10 down the actual gravel on Downing Street' but what is wrong with a bloody swingometer or a simple graph on a simple background?

Yeah the "hologram" shit is just weird. Someone in the Beeb should troll him by making some holoporn and putting that around him instead. It is after the watershed after all...

[San Lumen]

How likely is a no deal Brexit at this point?

no more likely than before the election

The eu isn’t going to keep giving them extensions not should they

[Purgatio]

Now that would be scary

Not really? He was talking about empty homes. Pretty much homes that are only owned by rich assholes who don't need them and are just trying to speculate with the housing market.

You're talking about giving the State the power to arbitrarily go around taking your shit without compensation because they feel like it. How is that not the stuff of dictatorships? This is how tinpot dictators behave.

[Liriena]

snip

Friend, you're gonna get yourself in trouble with the mods if you react like that.

[Thanatttynia]

I wish this was true

This depends on the education. To my mind, an educated populace is one which understands logic as it must understand Maths and English, and is inoculated against gaslighting, projection, and any other fallacy used in deception.

Well, it would be great if that's what education entailed, but it often doesn't :/

I wish this was true

I think it's true with massive caveats. Because not all education is guaranteed to make you a better critical thinker, specially when it comes to politics. Specially not if the education is provided by institutions with a vested interest in not encouraging you to be too critical of the status quo.

Plus, all the education in the world won't necessarily make you immune to savvy marketing strategies with just the right message. I've seen a lot of otherwise smart and educated people get incredibly gullible and borderline stupid about politics.

Yes, possibly. But your latter statement seems to hold true almost all of the time... people just want to believe what makes them feel better, regardless of how clever they are in particular fields (and of course intelligence in a specific sector doesn't always equate to overall intelligence)

[Major-Tom]

Drink up, bud.

But alcohol makes you fat

Not if you forget to eat.

[Ifreann]

I wish this was true

I think it's true with massive caveats. Because not all education is guaranteed to make you a better critical thinker, specially when it comes to politics. Specially not if the education is provided by institutions with a vested interest in not encouraging you to be too critical of the status quo.

Plus, all the education in the world won't necessarily make you immune to savvy marketing strategies with just the right message. I've seen a lot of otherwise smart and educated people get incredibly gullible and borderline stupid about politics.

There's a degree of people being easier to fool if they're convinced they can't be fooled. If you think advertising doesn't work on you, it definitely does. If you think you'll spot the trick, the magician has already made you choose the nine of diamonds.

[Purgatio]

no more likely than before the election

The eu isn’t going to keep giving them extensions not should they

It wouldn't be in their interests either. The EU's bargaining power over the UK comes from the fact that the negotiations are time-limited. Unlimited extensions would take away that bargaining power.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Good evening everybody, following a short stay in hospital I'm back to deliver my usual electoral wisdom from an anarcho-capitalist standpoint.

[Fartsniffage]

But alcohol makes you fat

Not if you forget to eat.

Alcohol leads to kebabs. I have spoken.

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

no more likely than before the election

The eu isn’t going to keep giving them extensions not should they

it doesnt need to, they will pass the deal boris wanted to.

[Purgatio]

Good evening everybody, following a short stay in hospital I'm back to deliver my usual electoral wisdom from an anarcho-capitalist standpoint.

I'm sure you've seen the exit poll. Had a good day I take it?

[Fartsniffage]

Good evening everybody, following a short stay in hospital I'm back to deliver my usual electoral wisdom from an anarcho-capitalist standpoint.

Which hospital?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Good evening everybody, following a short stay in hospital I'm back to deliver my usual electoral wisdom from an anarcho-capitalist standpoint.

https://youtu.be/Udj-o2m39NA

[Thanatttynia]

from an anarcho-capitalist standpoint.

No thank you

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Good evening everybody, following a short stay in hospital I'm back to deliver my usual electoral wisdom from an anarcho-capitalist standpoint.

I'm sure you've seen the exit poll. Had a good day I take it?

No I've had a terrible day, I have an unidentifiable eye infection. I had to go to one of those poor person hospitals!

[Ifreann]

Drink up, bud.

But alcohol makes you fat

Let your inner Dad Bod come forth.

[Liriena]

Not really? He was talking about empty homes. Pretty much homes that are only owned by rich assholes who don't need them and are just trying to speculate with the housing market.

You're talking about giving the State the power to arbitrarily go around taking your shit without compensation because they feel like it.

I mean, ideally there would be no state at all and it would just be communities collectively and democratically redistributing housing... but I don't see the state falling any time soon so we gotta make do with what we've got.

How is that not the stuff of dictatorships?

Ask the early capitalists who seized the lands of, not only indigenous people in colonial territories, but also that of the rural underclasses.