MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Nakena]

The simple fact that people are so obsessed over hating a single person that they stop doing everyday activities is pretty alarming to me

I'm old enough to remember the early 2000s. I thought the Bush hatred was retarded (and I'm no fan of Bush). People literally thought he was Hitler and was going to make America a fundamentalist Christian theocracy.

Trump hatred dwarfs that, and compared to Bush, Trump's pretty decent.

I've got a lot of flak couple of pages earlier for mentioning this.

The difference is that Trump is questioning and messing around with the system. While Bush did, on the surface, to pretend to respect its forms. Trump meanwhile publically desecrated the halls of DC.

[Ifreann]

July sure was four months ago.

The simple fact that people are so obsessed over hating a single person that they stop doing everyday activities is pretty alarming to me

Pretty worrying that people are operating under Trump's theory of exercise being bad for you, yes.

[Bear Stearns]

I'm old enough to remember the early 2000s. I thought the Bush hatred was retarded (and I'm no fan of Bush). People literally thought he was Hitler and was going to make America a fundamentalist Christian theocracy.

Trump hatred dwarfs that, and compared to Bush, Trump's pretty decent.

I've got a lot of flak couple of pages earlier for mentioning this.

The difference is that Trump is questioning and messing around with the system. While Bush did, on the surface, to pretend to respect its forms. Trump meanwhile publically desecrated the halls of DC.

DC deserved it.

[Cannot think of a name]

Three separate American politics threads, all three of them having the same discussion about fascism. Glad we separated them out, they're very distinct topics after all.

[Telconi]

Only if we utterly gut the meaning of the word "Theocracy"

Religious exemptions for laws are a good thing now then?

They always have been. Religious observance ought not be prohibited except if it harms other people.

[Bombadil]

Hey guys, no way Trump was going after Biden, look at how he defends him against Kim Jong-un..

Donald Trump has come to the defence of one of his potential rivals for the presidency, telling North Korea its recent description of Joe Biden as a “rabid dog” that should be “beaten to death” was a little unfair.

“Joe Biden may be sleepy and very slow,” Trump said in a tweet on Sunday, using his nicknames for Biden, “but he is not a ‘rabid dog.’ He is actually somewhat better than that.”

God bless, let's call the hearings off.

[Gormwood]

Emails Outline Anti-Immigration Group’s Connection to Stephen Miller

[Shrillland]

Religious exemptions for laws are a good thing now then?

They always have been. Religious observance ought not be prohibited except if it harms other people.

Aye, but in this case it could harm other people. Never underestimate the power of kids who will do anything if it means not studying. All they need to do is claim their religion says any given answer is wrong and they can, initially at least, get away with it. There are many good reasons for religious exemptions as you say, justifying deliberate ignorance isn't one of them, however.

[Telconi]

They always have been. Religious observance ought not be prohibited except if it harms other people.

Aye, but in this case it could harm other people. Never underestimate the power of kids who will do anything if it means not studying. All they need to do is claim their religion says any given answer is wrong and they can, initially at least, get away with it. There are many good reasons for religious exemptions as you say, justifying deliberate ignorance isn't one of them, however.

And who's harmed by the child's ignorance, other than the child that is?

[Aclion]

William Barr: Democrats' investigations into Trump are political harassment meant to 'sabotage' his presidency

This asshole is the current U.S. Attorney General. The outcry if an AG had shamelessly shilled for Clinton or Obama like that would have burst eardrums.

LMAO

[Necroghastia]

Aye, but in this case it could harm other people. Never underestimate the power of kids who will do anything if it means not studying. All they need to do is claim their religion says any given answer is wrong and they can, initially at least, get away with it. There are many good reasons for religious exemptions as you say, justifying deliberate ignorance isn't one of them, however.

And who's harmed by the child's ignorance, other than the child that is?

The teacher who is prevented from being able to do their job.

[Telconi]

And who's harmed by the child's ignorance, other than the child that is?

The teacher who is prevented from being able to do their job.

That's not a person. Nobody says the teacher can't teach.

[Gormwood]

William Barr: Democrats' investigations into Trump are political harassment meant to 'sabotage' his presidency

This asshole is the current U.S. Attorney General. The outcry if an AG had shamelessly shilled for Clinton or Obama like that would have burst eardrums.

LMAO

Holder protected Obama from Congressional investigations and called them a conspiracy to overthrow him?

[Shrillland]

Aye, but in this case it could harm other people. Never underestimate the power of kids who will do anything if it means not studying. All they need to do is claim their religion says any given answer is wrong and they can, initially at least, get away with it. There are many good reasons for religious exemptions as you say, justifying deliberate ignorance isn't one of them, however.

And who's harmed by the child's ignorance, other than the child that is?

Once that child becomes an adult, they can spread that same ignorance to others either as teachers or as parents, which leads to a less educated society as a whole. If we want to be a strong nation, we can't allow students to say that things that have been proven false such as creationism are, in fact, true. Not in public schools, anyway, private schools can do as they will.

[The Black Forrest]

And who's harmed by the child's ignorance, other than the child that is?

Once that child becomes an adult, they can spread that same ignorance to others either as teachers or as parents, which leads to a less educated society as a whole. If we want to be a strong nation, we can't allow students to say that things that have been proven false such as creationism are, in fact, true. Not in public schools, anyway, private schools can do as they will.

You are assuming the child will remain ignorant their who life? It would explain why conservatives are against universities as they are liberal hell holes.

[Shrillland]

Once that child becomes an adult, they can spread that same ignorance to others either as teachers or as parents, which leads to a less educated society as a whole. If we want to be a strong nation, we can't allow students to say that things that have been proven false such as creationism are, in fact, true. Not in public schools, anyway, private schools can do as they will.

You are assuming the child will remain ignorant their who life? It would explain why conservatives are against universities as they are liberal hell holes.

I don't assume all children will remain that way, but I don't assume all of them won't either, it depends on their upbringing and what they're exposed to.

[Ifreann]

Aye, but in this case it could harm other people. Never underestimate the power of kids who will do anything if it means not studying. All they need to do is claim their religion says any given answer is wrong and they can, initially at least, get away with it. There are many good reasons for religious exemptions as you say, justifying deliberate ignorance isn't one of them, however.

And who's harmed by the child's ignorance, other than the child that is?

Is a child being harmed not enough on its own?

[Gormwood]

Once that child becomes an adult, they can spread that same ignorance to others either as teachers or as parents, which leads to a less educated society as a whole. If we want to be a strong nation, we can't allow students to say that things that have been proven false such as creationism are, in fact, true. Not in public schools, anyway, private schools can do as they will.

You are assuming the child will remain ignorant their who life? It would explain why conservatives are against universities as they are liberal hell holes.

[Telconi]

And who's harmed by the child's ignorance, other than the child that is?

Once that child becomes an adult, they can spread that same ignorance to others either as teachers or as parents, which leads to a less educated society as a whole. If we want to be a strong nation, we can't allow students to say that things that have been proven false such as creationism are, in fact, true. Not in public schools, anyway, private schools can do as they will.

That's an awfully broad definition of the concept of "Harm" don't you think?

[Necroghastia]

Once that child becomes an adult, they can spread that same ignorance to others either as teachers or as parents, which leads to a less educated society as a whole. If we want to be a strong nation, we can't allow students to say that things that have been proven false such as creationism are, in fact, true. Not in public schools, anyway, private schools can do as they will.

That's an awfully broad definition of the concept of "Harm" don't you think?

Nope.

[The Black Forrest]

You are assuming the child will remain ignorant their who life? It would explain why conservatives are against universities as they are liberal hell holes.

I don't assume all children will remain that way, but I don't assume all of them won't either, it depends on their upbringing and what they're exposed to.

It’s easy to understand that viewpoint as we seem to be in an era of celebrating ignorance.

[Telconi]

That's an awfully broad definition of the concept of "Harm" don't you think?

Nope.

Not surprising.

[Telconi]

And who's harmed by the child's ignorance, other than the child that is?

Is a child being harmed not enough on its own?

Harmed according to you, not even close.

[Necroghastia]

Is a child being harmed not enough on its own?

Harmed according to you, not even close.

How is the child not being harmed? They are being allowed to believe falsehoods as fact.

[Telconi]

Harmed according to you, not even close.

How is the child not being harmed? They are being allowed to believe falsehoods as fact.

It's their decision.