by Neutraligon » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:24 pm
by Imbalistan » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:27 pm
Chan Island wrote:And I'm expecting this thread to devolve into a
racist and/or religious and/or politics shitshow within 3 pages.
by The Legion of Mankind » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:29 pm
by Aureumterra » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:29 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Gov. Matt Bevin recently came out with a video encouraging students to bring their bibles to school for Bring your bible to school day (not a real holiday, something set u by Focus on the Family).
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 843477002/
I think this should definitely be considered as against the first amendment, and should be treated as such. I am not sure this is sufficient to impeach the gov, but at the minimum he should pay a fine. Do you think that he violated the first amendment? What do you think should happen if he did?
by Pacomia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:30 pm
by Neutraligon » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:30 pm
Aureumterra wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Gov. Matt Bevin recently came out with a video encouraging students to bring their bibles to school for Bring your bible to school day (not a real holiday, something set u by Focus on the Family).
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 843477002/
I think this should definitely be considered as against the first amendment, and should be treated as such. I am not sure this is sufficient to impeach the gov, but at the minimum he should pay a fine. Do you think that he violated the first amendment? What do you think should happen if he did?
How does encouraging students to bring their bible to school violate the 1st amendment?
by Aureumterra » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:32 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Aureumterra wrote:How does encouraging students to bring their bible to school violate the 1st amendment?
He did so in his office as a governor and did so in an attempt to get kids to proselytize.
"I would encourage you, please, don’t just bring your Bible to school, but read your Bible. Bring it, share it with others. If you have an extra Bible, bring it and share it with somebody who doesn’t have one, who maybe has never read this book," Bevin said Tuesday in a video posted on social media.
by Genivaria » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:32 pm
Aureumterra wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Gov. Matt Bevin recently came out with a video encouraging students to bring their bibles to school for Bring your bible to school day (not a real holiday, something set u by Focus on the Family).
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 843477002/
I think this should definitely be considered as against the first amendment, and should be treated as such. I am not sure this is sufficient to impeach the gov, but at the minimum he should pay a fine. Do you think that he violated the first amendment? What do you think should happen if he did?
How does encouraging students to bring their bible to school violate the 1st amendment?
by Neutraligon » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:33 pm
Aureumterra wrote:Neutraligon wrote:He did so in his office as a governor and did so in an attempt to get kids to proselytize.
"I would encourage you, please, don’t just bring your Bible to school, but read your Bible. Bring it, share it with others. If you have an extra Bible, bring it and share it with somebody who doesn’t have one, who maybe has never read this book," Bevin said Tuesday in a video posted on social media.
Just seems like a tweet encouraging kids to bring their bibles to school, twitter isn’t an official channel of gubernatorial orders
by Aureumterra » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:33 pm
by Neutraligon » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:35 pm
by Pacomia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:35 pm
by Geneviev » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:35 pm
by Bombadil » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:35 pm
by Pacomia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:36 pm
Geneviev wrote:This isn't good, but it's not violating the First Amendment. Schools having events for Bring your Bible to School Day are violating the First Amendment because the students don't have a choice. He's not forcing anyone to participate.
by Genivaria » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:36 pm
by Neutraligon » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:36 pm
Geneviev wrote:This isn't good, but it's not violating the First Amendment. Schools having events for Bring your Bible to School Day are violating the First Amendment because the students don't have a choice. He's not forcing anyone to participate.
by Pacomia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:37 pm
Bombadil wrote:I guess kids can or cannot, or better bring the Quran or Harry Potter for fun, but this seems worse..
During Bevin's time in office, state lawmakers approved "Bible literacy" courses to be taught in public high schools, despite concerns from the American Civil Liberties Union, and in the most recent legislative session passed a law requiring all public schools to display "In God We Trust" in prominent on-campus locations.
by Geneviev » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:38 pm
Pacomia wrote:Geneviev wrote:This isn't good, but it's not violating the First Amendment. Schools having events for Bring your Bible to School Day are violating the First Amendment because the students don't have a choice. He's not forcing anyone to participate.
Alright, that’s fair. Still, religion doesn’t belong in public schools. Not a cool thing to do regardless.
by Neutraligon » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:39 pm
by Pacomia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:40 pm
by Salus Maior » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:40 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Gov. Matt Bevin recently came out with a video encouraging students to bring their bibles to school for Bring your bible to school day (not a real holiday, something set u by Focus on the Family).
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 843477002/
I think this should definitely be considered as against the first amendment, and should be treated as such. I am not sure this is sufficient to impeach the gov, but at the minimum he should pay a fine. Do you think that he violated the first amendment? What do you think should happen if he did?
by Geneviev » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:40 pm
by Gormwood » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:42 pm
by Salus Maior » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:42 pm
Neutraligon wrote:
Students where not forced to recite prayers before football games...it still was a violation.
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