Gay Person Punched, Pinned Down By Oklahoma Congregation

[Vetalia]

Hearing people "speaking in tongues" makes me uneasy enough, I hate that nonsense especially in many Protestant AOG communities and even in the Catholic Church...do you think our God is going to make you babble in yabba dabba do nonsense when Jesus and the rest of the apostles spoke in clear language?

This is so confusingly placed that I think you might be reading in tongues.

No, it's not...they were "speaking in tongues" while beating the person in question.

[Vetalia]

Hearing people "speaking in tongues" makes me uneasy enough, I hate that nonsense especially in many Protestant AOG communities and even in the Catholic Church...do you think our God is going to make you babble in yabba dabba do nonsense when Jesus and the rest of the apostles spoke in clear language?

As someone who was truly frightened the first time I saw people speaking in the gibberish, I totally relate.

Honestly, you're speaking in an unknown language without any idea where it's coming from in a susceptible state of consciousness. It might be gibberish from your subconscious or it might be demonic, there's no middle ground. I will say most of the speaking in tongues sounds like nonsense or demonic babbling meant to impress Christians.

[Cekoviu]

This is so confusingly placed that I think you might be reading in tongues.

No, it's not...they were "speaking in tongues" while beating the person in question.

Oh, I don't remember that from the article.

[Vetalia]

No, it's not...they were "speaking in tongues" while beating the person in question.

Oh, I don't remember that from the article.

It's mentioned in both articles in the OP.

[Dylar]

Huge yikes.

Hearing people "speaking in tongues" makes me uneasy enough, I hate that nonsense especially in many Protestant AOG communities and even in the Catholic Church...do you think our God is going to make you babble in yabba dabba do nonsense when Jesus and the rest of the apostles spoke in clear language?

Wait...but Catholics don't speak in tongues...we speak in Latin

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As someone who was truly frightened the first time I saw people speaking in the gibberish, I totally relate.

Honestly, you're speaking in an unknown language without any idea where it's coming from in a susceptible state of consciousness. It might be gibberish from your subconscious or it might be demonic, there's no middle ground. I will say most of the speaking in tongues sounds like nonsense or demonic babbling meant to impress Christians.

Demons aren't real and neither is God, so it's gibberish. Which is made evident in the fact that no two cases of "speaking in tongues" ever sound similar, if it was an angelic language or a demonic one you'd expect some consistency.

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Hearing people "speaking in tongues" makes me uneasy enough, I hate that nonsense especially in many Protestant AOG communities and even in the Catholic Church...do you think our God is going to make you babble in yabba dabba do nonsense when Jesus and the rest of the apostles spoke in clear language?

Wait...but Catholics don't speak in tongues...we speak in Latin

Most Catholics don't but when I was a kid (forced to go on a church retreat against my will) I met Catholic extremists who claimed they have spoken in tongues. It's mainly a Pentecostal thing but a few Catholic sects are into it. (Whether or not the Vatican deems it heretical I don't know but the Vatican does believe in other crazy things like exorcism.)

For the most part, Catholics are more chill than many Protestant denominations like Baptists and Pentecostals, but some Catholics really do take it further.

[Dylar]

Wait...but Catholics don't speak in tongues...we speak in Latin

Most Catholics don't but when I was a kid (forced to go on a church retreat against my will) I met Catholic extremists who claimed they have spoken in tongues. It's mainly a Pentecostal thing but a few Catholic sects are into it. (Whether or not the Vatican deems it heretical I don't know but the Vatican does believe in other crazy things like exorcism.)

For the most part, Catholics are more chill than many Protestant denominations like Baptists and Pentecostals, but some Catholics really do take it further.

I don't think the Vatican has any statement on speaking in tongues. Personally I think its faked. I think whoever does it is trying to either get new converts to their denomination by impressing the non-believers into thinking they can speak Angelic languages, or its by people who just want attention in their congregations. And I'm a devout Catholic. Strangely enough, my dad is the complete opposite. He believes that it might be real and that I shouldn't make any prejudices towards it, but yea. I actually knew an Apostolic kid who'd start speaking in tongues in class while he prayed. Shook around in his chair and everything. Which makes me further my point that I think it's faked...

As for exorcisms and possessions, I think that's real. Just not as common as society and the media plays it out to be. I mean the fact that the Church only has a small handful of exorcists in America proves that.

[The Huskar Social Union]

If they actually did this i hope the cunts go to jail and their congregation collapses.

Fucking scumbags.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Horrible if the allegations are true.

I would want a full imparshal investigation to be done.

[Katganistan]

Refuse to turn off adblocker to read the article. How did this guy get pinned down? Was he kidnapped and forcibly dragged into the church? Did his family bring him there? Or was just some weirdo who decided to go along with it?

Funny, I have an adblocker and could read both articles just fine.

[New Genoa]

The religion of love.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

The religion of love.

Hey man I don't condone beating up gay people and im also catholic.

[San Lumen]

The religion of love.

Im willing to bet many practicing Christians don't condone behavior like this

[The Sherpa Empire]

This is the Christianity I know and hate.

Has there ever been any other kind of Christianity?

Actually, yeah.

Interesting article about the relationship between Christian churches and right-wing politics: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... -religion/

There have always been obnoxious right-wing Christians, but it used to be most people were Christian across the board, regardless of political views, and the church was less politicized.

If you look back further, you can find examples of both Christian bigotry and Christian progressives. John Brown thought his abolitionist crusade was divinely ordained.

[Cekoviu]

Refuse to turn off adblocker to read the article. How did this guy get pinned down? Was he kidnapped and forcibly dragged into the church? Did his family bring him there? Or was just some weirdo who decided to go along with it?

Funny, I have an adblocker and could read both articles just fine.

Possible that you're on different browsers or operating systems. My Windows systems work to block ads on certain sites where Linux doesn't and different browsers have different extensions and ways to counteract ads.

[Ethel mermania]

Has there ever been any other kind of Christianity?

Actually, yeah.

Interesting article about the relationship between Christian churches and right-wing politics: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... -religion/

There have always been obnoxious right-wing Christians, but it used to be most people were Christian across the board, regardless of political views, and the church was less politicized.

If you look back further, you can find examples of both Christian bigotry and Christian progressives. John Brown thought his abolitionist crusade was divinely ordained.

The great awakening was one of the causes of the civil war, indeed

[Salus Maior]

Most Catholics don't but when I was a kid (forced to go on a church retreat against my will) I met Catholic extremists who claimed they have spoken in tongues. It's mainly a Pentecostal thing but a few Catholic sects are into it. (Whether or not the Vatican deems it heretical I don't know but the Vatican does believe in other crazy things like exorcism.)

For the most part, Catholics are more chill than many Protestant denominations like Baptists and Pentecostals, but some Catholics really do take it further.

I don't think the Vatican has any statement on speaking in tongues. Personally I think its faked. I think whoever does it is trying to either get new converts to their denomination by impressing the non-believers into thinking they can speak Angelic languages, or its by people who just want attention in their congregations. And I'm a devout Catholic. Strangely enough, my dad is the complete opposite. He believes that it might be real and that I shouldn't make any prejudices towards it, but yea. I actually knew an Apostolic kid who'd start speaking in tongues in class while he prayed. Shook around in his chair and everything. Which makes me further my point that I think it's faked...

As for exorcisms and possessions, I think that's real. Just not as common as society and the media plays it out to be. I mean the fact that the Church only has a small handful of exorcists in America proves that.

Charismatic Catholics do basically the whole Pentecostal schtick.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

I would not say that the church should be shut down but an investigation should for sure be launched and anyone who is found to have participated in the attack should be charged.

In the meantime, the church remains a threat to public safety.

Has there ever been any other kind of Christianity?

Actually, yeah.

Interesting article about the relationship between Christian churches and right-wing politics: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... -religion/

There have always been obnoxious right-wing Christians, but it used to be most people were Christian across the board, regardless of political views, and the church was less politicized.

If you look back further, you can find examples of both Christian bigotry and Christian progressives. John Brown thought his abolitionist crusade was divinely ordained.

Let's face it, right-wing worldviews and Christianity are generally caused by the same thing; an inadequate sense of skepticism. Especially in the age of Trump, wherein Trump's dozens of contradictions and the Bible's hundreds are only a difference of degree.

It's a miracle the left isn't consistently 100% composed of anti-theists. The ones who aren't are betraying the left by legitimizing Christianity's continued existence, which is far more useful to the right than the left.

[Telconi]

I would not say that the church should be shut down but an investigation should for sure be launched and anyone who is found to have participated in the attack should be charged.

In the meantime, the church remains a threat to public safety.

Actually, yeah.

Interesting article about the relationship between Christian churches and right-wing politics: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... -religion/

There have always been obnoxious right-wing Christians, but it used to be most people were Christian across the board, regardless of political views, and the church was less politicized.

If you look back further, you can find examples of both Christian bigotry and Christian progressives. John Brown thought his abolitionist crusade was divinely ordained.

Let's face it, right-wing worldviews and Christianity are generally caused by the same thing; an inadequate sense of skepticism. Especially in the age of Trump, wherein Trump's dozens of contradictions and the Bible's hundreds are only a difference of degree.

It's a miracle the left isn't consistently 100% composed of anti-theists. The ones who aren't are betraying the left by legitimizing Christianity's continued existence, which is far more useful to the right than the left.

Leftists should absolutely operate on this assumption.

[Salus Maior]

In the meantime, the church remains a threat to public safety.

That's why they're being investigated.

[Frithadova Clatuttia]

This is unacceptable . Stuff like this should never, EVER happen. This is discrimination.

[The Free Joy State]

The religion of love.

Im willing to bet many practicing Christians don't condone behavior like this

That would probably be a pretty safe bet.

Funny, I have an adblocker and could read both articles just fine.

Possible that you're on different browsers or operating systems. My Windows systems work to block ads on certain sites where Linux doesn't and different browsers have different extensions and ways to counteract ads.

It's possibly a system thing. I've recently got a different computer and the same adblock lets sites pass that it blocked on the old one and vice versa.

[Geneviev]

The religion of love.

Im willing to bet many practicing Christians don't condone behavior like this

I'm pretty sure you're right about that. This church was very wrong.

[Duhon]

Fucking pathetic.