2019-2020 US Election Megathread III: Biden VS Biden

by **The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:39 am

Still anyone but Trump for 2020.

Unless Trump gets back Spiderman back to the MCU.

by **The Sherpa Empire** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:54 am

Grahnol wrote:I'm not entirely confident in his chances of winning, but I think he has an ok chance of winning the candidacy. And I'm going to be honest, if anyone other than Yang, Gabbard or Bernie becomes the one to face Trump, the Democrats will lose. The reason why these three stand a chance imo is because they attract voters from both Republican and Democrat sides, which allows them to starve Trump's support. Anyways, this post is long enough, sorry if I flood the thread with my posts, I just figured I give my thoughts on my picks for US President.

Claims to be worried about "socialism," then names Bernie as one of their top picks. Yeah, we can dismiss that as useless advice.

Not to say Yang's platform is bad, mind you. He has some interesting ideas, but he's not ready for a general election.

by **San Lumen** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:05 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Still anyone but Trump for 2020.

Unless Trump gets back Spiderman back to the MCU.

I second this. Whoever the Democratic nominee is I will vote for along with every other Democrat on the ballot.Almost everyone i know will be doing the same.

by **Ifreann** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:10 am

The FBI have arrested a member of the US Army who, among other things, suggested targetting Beto O'Rourke.

by **San Lumen** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:13 am

Ifreann wrote:The FBI have arrested a member of the US Army who, among other things, suggested targetting Beto O'Rourke.

Good. Such things are completely utterly unacceptable.

by **Galloism** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:14 am

Ifreann wrote:The FBI have arrested a member of the US Army who, among other things, suggested targetting Beto O'Rourke.

Lock him up.

by **Grahnol** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:35 am

The Sherpa Empire wrote:
Grahnol wrote:I'm not entirely confident in his chances of winning, but I think he has an ok chance of winning the candidacy. And I'm going to be honest, if anyone other than Yang, Gabbard or Bernie becomes the one to face Trump, the Democrats will lose. The reason why these three stand a chance imo is because they attract voters from both Republican and Democrat sides, which allows them to starve Trump's support. Anyways, this post is long enough, sorry if I flood the thread with my posts, I just figured I give my thoughts on my picks for US President.

Claims to be worried about "socialism," then names Bernie as one of their top picks. Yeah, we can dismiss that as useless advice.

Not to say Yang's platform is bad, mind you. He has some interesting ideas, but he's not ready for a general election.

First off, I did NOT say those were my top picks, apart from Yang which I discussed in good detail previously before making that list. I'm instead saying those three are the only ones that could realistically have a chance at beating Trump in an election. Second, making a list of candidates likely to win against Trump doesn't mean my top picks. I did not endorse any of the people listed as ones that could stand up to Trump except for Yang. I only put Bernie in that list as he seems to be getting quite a bit of support from Trump's voters.

It would actually be quite a hard choice for me to choose between Sanders or Trump; I view them as two sides of a coin of bad, so it's hard to choose between an outright socialist and another guy that I hate a lot in many aspects. Fortunately, I'm not American so I don't have to make that choice

As for the latter paragraph, it's okay if you disagree or otherwise think that Yang's platform is weak. I personally think that he has more convincing points than most Democrats, especially with the party's drift to far more progressive and lefter-wing policies that make me uncomfortable with it. Yang for me is like a breath of fresh air that for once isn't bringing expensive budget sucking progressive policies and plans.

Ifreann wrote:The FBI have arrested a member of the US Army who, among other things, suggested targetting Beto O'Rourke.

Oooookay that's pretty worrying. As much as I hate O'Rourke, I have the sanity to fight him through debates instead of explosive violence. Good riddance.

by **Cannot think of a name** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:40 am

Ifreann wrote:The FBI have arrested a member of the US Army who, among other things, suggested targetting Beto O'Rourke.

I went to the comments. The tides came in on the ones on top.

civilwar 12 • 22 minutes ago

Has to be a registered Dumcrat!

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Ernie Santella civilwar 12 • 13 minutes ago

Nope, Trumpian Repuglian.
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Just...just fucking great. It gets worse from there, but why subject yourself to that?

by **San Lumen** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:42 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The FBI have arrested a member of the US Army who, among other things, suggested targetting Beto O'Rourke.

I went to the comments. The tides came in on the ones on top.

civilwar 12 • 22 minutes ago

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Just...just fucking great. It gets worse from there, but why subject yourself to that?

Online comments always bring out the worst people. If they were representative 2018 should have been a red tsunami where even Andrew Cuomo lost reelection

by **Cannot think of a name** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:43 am

Grahnol wrote:As for the latter paragraph, it's okay if you disagree or otherwise think that Yang's platform is weak. I personally think that he has more convincing points than most Democrats, especially with the party's drift to far more progressive and lefter-wing policies that make me uncomfortable with it. Yang for me is like a breath of fresh air that for once isn't bringing expensive budget sucking progressive policies and plans.

The same guy whose signature proposal is giving everyone $1000 a month?

by **Page** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:50 am

Yang impressed me when he advocated for decriminalizing personal possession of all drugs, even Bernie Sanders hasn't gone that far. He's still my third choice and realistically it's extremely improbable that he will be the nominee, but I appreciate that he's running because he's brought important issues to the table and even opened up widespread discussions of universal basic income and the problem of unsustainable capitalism. I appreciate Tulsi Gabbard for the same reason, she puts non-interventionism in the spotlight and holds the others accountable for answering for the endless wars.

I wish there was a candidate with Bernie Sanders' domestic policy, Tulsi Gabbard's foreign policy, and Yang's universal basic income and drug policy. If it were possible to bring such a being into existence, perhaps by throwing hairs of the aforementioned 3 into a witch's cauldron and reciting an arcane spell, such a being would crush Trump like a hydraulic press.

by **Telconi** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:53 am

Ifreann wrote:The FBI have arrested a member of the US Army who, among other things, suggested targetting Beto O'Rourke.

This is why joining the army is bad ladies and gents.

by **Talvezout** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:52 pm

Tulsi is such a grab - bag of a candidate. I really like her stances on war and climate change, but her arms-open welcoming of Modi, among other things, gives me pause

by **Zurkerx** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:56 pm

New debate threshold:

The Democratic Candidates must either get 3% in four recognized polls or 5% in two polls in early States like Iowa, NH, SC, and Nevada. Additionally, they'll need 165,000 donations with 600 unique donations from 20 States. This definitely puts Bennet, Bullock, Sestak, Messam, Williamson, Delancy, Steyer, Gabbard, and Ryan out; they won't last long.

Now the people at risk in this case are Booker, Klobuchar, and Castro. Castro and Klobuchar are the most likely while Booker may have a shot though he's struggling.

So, that leaves us with these seven: Biden, Warren, Sanders, Buttigieg, Harris, O'Rourke, and Yang as likely the 7 on the debate stage at least.

by **Shrillland** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:03 pm

No real surprise, the Alaska GOP has canceled their presidential primary for next year: https://www.adn.com/politics/2019/09/21/in-support-of-trump-alaska-republicans-cancel-presidential-primary/

by **San Lumen** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:10 pm

Shrillland wrote:No real surprise, the Alaska GOP has canceled their presidential primary for next year: https://www.adn.com/politics/2019/09/21/in-support-of-trump-alaska-republicans-cancel-presidential-primary/

They are no longer being even remotely subtle about their distain for democracy. They have made it quite clear they see it as an annoyance

by **Galloism** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:10 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:No real surprise, the Alaska GOP has canceled their presidential primary for next year: https://www.adn.com/politics/2019/09/21/in-support-of-trump-alaska-republicans-cancel-presidential-primary/

They are no longer being even remotely subtle about their distain for democracy. They have made it quite clear they see it as an annoyance

"Because Trump".

by **Washington Resistance Army** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:No real surprise, the Alaska GOP has canceled their presidential primary for next year: https://www.adn.com/politics/2019/09/21/in-support-of-trump-alaska-republicans-cancel-presidential-primary/

They are no longer being even remotely subtle about their distain for democracy. They have made it quite clear they see it as an annoyance

Daily reminder that the Dems did the same thing lol

by **Telconi** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:No real surprise, the Alaska GOP has canceled their presidential primary for next year: https://www.adn.com/politics/2019/09/21/in-support-of-trump-alaska-republicans-cancel-presidential-primary/

They are no longer being even remotely subtle about their distain for democracy. They have made it quite clear they see it as an annoyance

I have a bit of a problem that maybe you can help me with.

I'm looking through your post history from 2012 trying to find where you lambasted the Democrats for cancelling their primaries. Unfortunately, however, I'm coming up empty handed.

Could you provide links to those posts? Surely they must exist.

by **San Lumen** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:15 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:They are no longer being even remotely subtle about their distain for democracy. They have made it quite clear they see it as an annoyance

Daily reminder that the Dems did the same thing lol

It shouldn't be allowed.

by **Washington Resistance Army** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Daily reminder that the Dems did the same thing lol

It shouldn't be allowed.

Why?

by **Valrifell** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:No real surprise, the Alaska GOP has canceled their presidential primary for next year: https://www.adn.com/politics/2019/09/21/in-support-of-trump-alaska-republicans-cancel-presidential-primary/

They are no longer being even remotely subtle about their distain for democracy. They have made it quite clear they see it as an annoyance

We've had this conversation before, it's entirely standard.

by **San Lumen** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:16 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:It shouldn't be allowed.

Why?

Because if someone chooses to run for a position they should be allowed too if they meet the requirements. They are only doing this because they dont want to risk someone else getting a few delegates. I would love to see some delegates refuse to vote at the convention or vote for someone else or even some people who speak chastise the president.

by **The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:16 pm

Ifreann wrote:The FBI have arrested a member of the US Army who, among other things, suggested targetting Beto O'Rourke.

Good. Lock them up with the rest of the criminals.

by **Shrillland** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Why?

Because if someone chooses to run for a position they should be allowed too if they meet the requirements. They are only doing this because they dont want to risk someone else getting a few delegates. I would love to see some delegates refuse to vote at the convention or vote for someone else or even some people who speak chastise the president.

They probably wouldn't though. Trump's GOP opposition combined is only around 10% in the polls last I looked, and that won't get any delegates in either the proportional or FPTP states.

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