Genetically engineered sperm

[Nakena]

Bro, I think you just inadvertently described the Dominion and the Jem'Hadar from DS9.

I mean, kinda? Not my fault the DS9 writers described a way of oppressing people that utilizes genetic engineering. Its basically no different in structure from this.

Screw the Dominion.

The Khanate of Earth is much better :^)

The first and last point sound pretty weak. In all honesty, the rich will probably create a new caste system. Themselves at the top, with the best enhancements. The military in the middle to enforce their will, with some good enhancements for combat, maybe some enforced dependencies (maybe an addiction to a chemical that only the ones at the top can provide), etc. And everyone else will be worker drones and effectively slaves, consigned to whatever menial labor can't be automated, with modifications to reduce uprisings and whatnot, and to improve labor efficiency.

I believe the PRC would go for such a system and thats what I am afraid of.

Also its remniscent of the slavery system from Cloud Atlas

[Cappuccina]

There’s no such thing as racial purity. Wake the fuck up.

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

Such a process, within only one or a few generations- could perhaps erase all traces of Neaderthal DNA if people wanted to go in that direction. Neaderthals are extinct, but apparently enough people up to this day, constantly carry 1 to 3% of it that lies dormant and does nothing for the most part.

You truly have a bizzare manner of thinking.

Engineering children for some imaginary goal of "racial purity", is quite frankly utopian, and thus stupid.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

Such a process, within only one or a few generations- could perhaps erase all traces of Neaderthal DNA if people wanted to go in that direction. Neaderthals are extinct, but apparently enough people up to this day, constantly carry 1 to 3% of it that lies dormant and does nothing for the most part.

You truly have a bizzare manner of thinking.

Engineering children for some imaginary goal of "racial purity", is quite frankly utopian, and thus stupid.

But mostly stupid.

[Dooom35796821595]

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

Such a process, within only one or a few generations- could perhaps erase all traces of Neaderthal DNA if people wanted to go in that direction. Neaderthals are extinct, but apparently enough people up to this day, constantly carry 1 to 3% of it that lies dormant and does nothing for the most part.

You truly have a bizzare manner of thinking.

Engineering children for some imaginary goal of "racial purity", is quite frankly utopian, and thus stupid.

I think you mean dystopian.

[Tornado Queendom]

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/08/22/746321083/scientists-attempt-controversial-experiment-to-edit-dna-in-human-sperm-using-cri

Humanity has come a very long way since we were hunter gatherers in Africa. The ability to manipulate the very code of life itself will remain one of our greatest achievements, I believe, if not for the ethics, in what it represents. And here, we have scientists manipulating (or trying to) the DNA of sperm, in this case to reduce the risk of cancer.

So, NSG-is this good or bad? Is this ethical? And genetic engineering as a whole-What should be done?

As should be obvious if you know me, I am all for this. Genetic engineering is a grand tool in the improvement of humanity, and it has the potential to aid so many people.

I don't see this as ethical or evil, just strange.

[Tornado Queendom]

There’s no such thing as racial purity. Wake the fuck up.

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

Such a process, within only one or a few generations- could perhaps erase all traces of Neaderthal DNA if people wanted to go in that direction. Neaderthals are extinct, but apparently enough people up to this day, constantly carry 1 to 3% of it that lies dormant and does nothing for the most part.

This might be what we need to save Europeans from ending up like the Native Americans

Or even better: We can bring back the Germanic tribes of the middle ages! Who wouldn't want a Visigothic neighbor or a Lingoni wife?

[Necroghastia]

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

Such a process, within only one or a few generations- could perhaps erase all traces of Neaderthal DNA if people wanted to go in that direction. Neaderthals are extinct, but apparently enough people up to this day, constantly carry 1 to 3% of it that lies dormant and does nothing for the most part.

This might be what we need to save Europeans from ending up like the Native Americans

Or even better: We can bring back the Germanic tribes of the middle ages! Who wouldn't want a Visigothic neighbor or a Lingoni wife?

No one cares about enabling y'all's raceplay fetish.

[Salandriagado]

Most people who work with Genetic Engineering are concerned about innate traits that're hard to quantify such as aspects of personality and etc.

But what I'm more concerned about is the genetics behind skin color. If genetic engineering could be used to sustain the White race, even if it is the case that naturally- Whites are doomed to near extinction or permanent minority status if the non-Whites immigrate and breed to much, in comparison to Whites in developed countries.

Why is it that racists always utterly fail to understand Hardy-Weinberg?

[Tornado Queendom]

This might be what we need to save Europeans from ending up like the Native Americans

Or even better: We can bring back the Germanic tribes of the middle ages! Who wouldn't want a Visigothic neighbor or a Lingoni wife?

No one cares about enabling y'all's raceplay fetish.

Remember: I have LOADS of fetishes, and I would LOVE for my NS Nations' leaders to become real with this one weird trick called Genetic Engineering.

[Necroghastia]

No one cares about enabling y'all's raceplay fetish.

Remember: I have LOADS of fetishes, and I would LOVE for my NS Nations' leaders to become real with this one weird trick called Genetic Engineering.

Seriously, dude, that's disgusting. No one wants to hear about that shit on a PG-13 forum.

[Salandriagado]

There’s no such thing as racial purity. Wake the fuck up.

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

Such a process, within only one or a few generations- could perhaps erase all traces of Neaderthal DNA if people wanted to go in that direction. Neaderthals are extinct, but apparently enough people up to this day, constantly carry 1 to 3% of it that lies dormant and does nothing for the most part.

Apart from all of the other problems with this bullshit, your claim that Neanderthal-derived DNA "does nothing for the most part" is simply a lie: keratin production is a fucking thing.

And, more to the point, "erasing all traces of Neanderthal DNA" would, as a first step, wipe out the "white race" that you so fetishise, given the far higher proportion of Neanderthal ancestry in Europeans than in Africans.

[Nantoraka]

Can I give my kids laser vision and telepathy, or have not gotten to those mutations yet?

[Grahnol]

Can I give my kids laser vision and telepathy, or have not gotten to those mutations yet?

Sorry, sir. But that's an upgrade with a subscription costing $199.99/m attached to it. We profit off of your body now

[Grahnol]

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

Such a process, within only one or a few generations- could perhaps erase all traces of Neaderthal DNA if people wanted to go in that direction. Neaderthals are extinct, but apparently enough people up to this day, constantly carry 1 to 3% of it that lies dormant and does nothing for the most part.

Apart from all of the other problems with this bullshit, your claim that Neanderthal-derived DNA "does nothing for the most part" is simply a lie: keratin production is a fucking thing.

And, more to the point, "erasing all traces of Neanderthal DNA" would, as a first step, wipe out the "white race" that you so fetishise, given the far higher proportion of Neanderthal ancestry in Europeans than in Africans.

Yeah. And don't forget that we have to thank the Neanderthals for a lot of our genes to give us a jump start at immunity against pathogens in Eurasia.

Also, Saiwania, do you know how this 'white race' came about? Evolution. It's the imperfections and randomness of nature that made just about every genetic group, Europeans included, they are the way they are because of adaptation to the conditions in Europe. If nature dictated us differently, than the so-called 'white race' wouldn't be the idealism you envision them as they are. Europeans weren't even white-skinned 10,000-8,000 years ago and also, admixture had a play in the origin of the modern genetics of Europeans, both from genetic groups of our species and from Neanderthals.

Saying nature will take away 'white purity' is asinine.

[Salandriagado]

Apart from all of the other problems with this bullshit, your claim that Neanderthal-derived DNA "does nothing for the most part" is simply a lie: keratin production is a fucking thing.

And, more to the point, "erasing all traces of Neanderthal DNA" would, as a first step, wipe out the "white race" that you so fetishise, given the far higher proportion of Neanderthal ancestry in Europeans than in Africans.

Yeah. And don't forget that we have to thank the Neanderthals for a lot of our genes to give us a jump start at immunity against pathogens in Eurasia.

Also, Saiwania, do you know how this 'white race' came about? Evolution. It's the imperfections and randomness of nature that made just about every genetic group, Europeans included, they are the way they are because of adaptation to the conditions in Europe. If nature dictated us differently, than the so-called 'white race' wouldn't be the idealism you envision them as they are. Europeans weren't even white-skinned 10,000-8,000 years ago and also, admixture had a play in the origin of the modern genetics of Europeans, both from genetic groups of our species and from Neanderthals.

Saying nature will take away 'white purity' is asinine.

It gets better: that additional Neanderthal-derived DNA mostly affects the skin.

[Katganistan]

Most people who work with Genetic Engineering are concerned about innate traits that're hard to quantify such as aspects of personality and etc.

But what I'm more concerned about is the genetics behind skin color. If genetic engineering could be used to sustain the White race, even if it is the case that naturally- Whites are doomed to near extinction or permanent minority status if the non-Whites immigrate and breed to much, in comparison to Whites in developed countries.

Ugh, this again.

White skin is not inherently superior, more beautiful or ANYTHING. It just is.

Whites are more prone to get skin cancers than non-whites. Maybe instead of programming for whiteness, you should program for less-likely-to-get-cancer.

[Aclion]

I think you mean dystopian.

same thing

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Question: How do we know that gene that "only increases cancer risk" isn't also a gene for... whatever causes people to have negative opinions of biologists (or oppose biology research grants, etc.) that biologists are covering up?

[Katganistan]

God, everything’s about race to you, isn’t it?

Lets say that a young White girl got seduced by an athletic Black stud of a man. He got her pregnant. At least her family has options now if they could afford genetic engineering. Instead of panicking that they'll have to have a half Black baby in their perfectly White family tree, she could instead be taken to a clinic early on and her zygote could be "fixed" such that even if the father is really Black, the baby will still be White.

This couldn't be more perfect. I'd no longer need to worry about any racial groups becoming extinct. But I probably will still need to worry about who is the majority and who is the minority in various places.

What if that interracial couple love each other and adore the idea of having children that resemble them both?

God, your ideas on race are simply abhorrent and fixated on the incorrect notion that any relationship between people of different skin tones is either rape/seduction or being a 'traitor'. I wish I could say such backward notions were non existent.

Get used to white skin being a somewhat recessive trait, and white skin being the minority. It already is in the world population, with white-skinned people being about two of the seven billion on the planet -- the rest being various shades of brown.

30% of the world population is white. That's the reality. Do what you want in your own relationships but stop projecting your fantasy on the majority of people in the world.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Most people who work with Genetic Engineering are concerned about innate traits that're hard to quantify such as aspects of personality and etc.

But what I'm more concerned about is the genetics behind skin color. If genetic engineering could be used to sustain the White race, even if it is the case that naturally- Whites are doomed to near extinction or permanent minority status if the non-Whites immigrate and breed to much, in comparison to Whites in developed countries.

Even if it's a concern, it's down to the reputation of black and/or Hispanic men for large penises. (The reputation of any race's woman doesn't really matter to men once she spreads her legs.) If you really want to do something about it, don't fight the uphill battle against sexual pleasure, just subsidize abortion for non-white babies, child care for white babies, and if that doesn't work, make a written promise to get one's tubes tied after [insert arbitrary number of kids here] part of the condition for immigration.

[Katganistan]

But the point is that with Genetic Engineering, it might well be the case that there finally could be racial purity, regardless of the biological parents if the process is a complete rearrangement or editing of existing DNA.

This is like a brand new possibility or world opening up. Nature is too random and imperfect, and has reigned for too long over us. But now, our technology may get to the point where we can do more of what we want, even if this included transitioning a population towards becoming more racially pure or a revival of eugenics efforts- but with more powerful and exact science behind it this time around.

Such a process, within only one or a few generations- could perhaps erase all traces of Neaderthal DNA if people wanted to go in that direction. Neaderthals are extinct, but apparently enough people up to this day, constantly carry 1 to 3% of it that lies dormant and does nothing for the most part.

You truly have a bizzare manner of thinking.

Engineering children for some imaginary goal of "racial purity", is quite frankly utopian, and thus stupid.

Especially given that all humans originated from Africa.
Lack of skin pigmentation is a genetic mutation that is not altogether healthy.

Many white people end up with skin cancer ironically because they spend time in the sun trying to get brown.

[Ifreann]

Question: How do we know that gene that "only increases cancer risk" isn't also a gene for... whatever causes people to have negative opinions of biologists (or oppose biology research grants, etc.) that biologists are covering up?

Because genes don't work that way.

[Katganistan]

I think you mean dystopian.

same thing

Utopian means a perfect place.
Dystopian means a horrible place.


Not the same thing.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

What if that interracial couple love each other and adore the idea of having children that resemble them both?

To be fair, historically most interactions between races consisted of conquest, not love, and lust was just as compatible with conquest as was love... if not more so. Just ask Thomas Jefferson.

God, your ideas on race are simply abhorrent and fixated on the incorrect notion that any relationship between people of different skin tones is either rape/seduction or being a 'traitor'. I wish I could say such backward notions were non existent.

Human nature is human nature. The 60s didn't erase it, it just meant "coercion by the state" became an unacceptable means to express it.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

You truly have a bizzare manner of thinking.

Engineering children for some imaginary goal of "racial purity", is quite frankly utopian, and thus stupid.

Especially given that all humans originated from Africa.
Lack of skin pigmentation is a genetic mutation that is not altogether healthy.

Many white people end up with skin cancer ironically because they spend time in the sun trying to get brown.

Why would they do that, other than a belief that black men and Hispanic men get results in the field of dating?